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Senate won't bring Upton fix to the floor [cool!]
TheHill ^ | 11/15/13

Posted on 11/15/2013 12:18:43 PM PST by Bulwinkle

Edited on 11/15/2013 12:30:18 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Senate Democrats do not expect to vote on the ObamaCare fix the House approved on Friday with 39 Democratic votes, according to a senior Democratic aide.

The aide said there is not any pressure on the Senate Democratic leadership to bring the legislation sponsored by Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) to the floor.

"There is a difference between constructive fixes designed to improve the law and bills that would gut it,” said the senior Democratic aide. “The Upton bill is the latter.”

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KEYWORDS: 113th; harryreid; lawlessnation; obama; obamacare; reid; upton; youcankeepitbill
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ObamaCare is a tax .... Everything has to start in the house
1 posted on 11/15/2013 12:18:43 PM PST by Bulwinkle
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To: Bulwinkle

Good. Now let’s see CRUZ’ PLAN.


2 posted on 11/15/2013 12:19:51 PM PST by struggle
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To: Bulwinkle

Love it when a plan comes together. Probably the gop/e.


3 posted on 11/15/2013 12:21:13 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: struggle
CLUSTER ____ ! Add your own word.
4 posted on 11/15/2013 12:22:16 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: struggle
Just heard on Dana Radio that Cruz's bill does what Upton's Bill does PLUS strips the insurance company bailout!!!!

Perfect, these insurance crony capitalist do not deserve a bailout. They wanted the upside of ObamaCare, but if it did not work out, they got a bailout.

Now the Rats who are blaming the insurance companies, they should be on board with getting rid of the bailout!!

5 posted on 11/15/2013 12:22:59 PM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Bulwinkle

Tell that to Justice Roberts.


6 posted on 11/15/2013 12:23:10 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Bulwinkle

Republicans should not be looking for ways to help Obama.


7 posted on 11/15/2013 12:23:51 PM PST by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: Bulwinkle

GOOD! The idiot Boehner and his worthless GOPe cronies need to get a brain and keep their hands out of this disaster.

The Dems are imploding and the citizens, even the LIVs, are blaming them. If the Republicans put their name to anything dealing with this mess they will then get hit with the total blame when it finally collapses.


8 posted on 11/15/2013 12:23:54 PM PST by OldMissileer
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To: rktman
Did you think the House thought Reid would take it up?

No. They did not.

But now close to 40 Democrats are on record as backing the legislative fix. And more in the Senate want it as well. Bad news for Hairy Reid.

9 posted on 11/15/2013 12:24:21 PM PST by what's up
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To: Iron Munro

If this helps Obama, why does he want to veto it?


10 posted on 11/15/2013 12:25:11 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Because he is an petulant, arrogant ass who does not want people telling him what to do.


11 posted on 11/15/2013 12:27:20 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: P-Marlowe; Travis McGee
Is he still in Malta? j/k


12 posted on 11/15/2013 12:28:08 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: what's up

because the friend of my enemy is my enemy


13 posted on 11/15/2013 12:28:21 PM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Bulwinkle

By Alexander Bolton - 11/15/13 02:48 PM EST

Senate Democrats do not expect to vote on the ObamaCare fix the House approved on Friday with 39 Democratic votes, according to a senior Democratic aide.

The aide said there is not any pressure on the Senate Democratic leadership to bring the legislation sponsored by Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) to the floor.

“There is a difference between constructive fixes designed to improve the law and bills that would gut it,” said the senior Democratic aide. “The Upton bill is the latter.”


14 posted on 11/15/2013 12:28:46 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Bulwinkle


15 posted on 11/15/2013 12:29:38 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: what's up

That might be why Harry wouldn’t allow it to be brought up - he didn’t want to see who would defect.


16 posted on 11/15/2013 12:29:47 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Bulwinkle

So what is Sen. Mary Landrieu going to do? She has to find someone in the House... And the house won’t pass (or even bring up for a vote) anything a Democrat sponsors!


17 posted on 11/15/2013 12:30:39 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Bulwinkle

In case anyone who was wondering how Obama could wave his magic dictator’s wand and “allow” insurance companies to offer continuation of non-compliant (illegal) policies: he can’t. Not really. He can’t make the policies legal, but what he can do is tell the insurance companies he won’t prosecute them for offering illegal policies. So Obama is telling the insurance companies: “Don’t worry, it’s OK to issue illegal policies because I promise my administration won’t prosecute you.” In other words, Obama can’t make the policies legal, so he’s encouraging the insurance companies to break the law.

So encouraging the insurance companies to break the law is “Obama’s Big Fix”! So how’s that for great health insurance reform? Oh, yeah, and what a wonderful way to govern the country: encourage law-breaking. Given the example this President sets, why should anyone else feel compelled to follow the law about anything?

On the other hand, we all know that “Obama’s Big Fix” is impossible. State insurance commissioners are saying “NO”, and the insurance companies won’t issue illegal polices anyway due to massive liability issues. Oh, and what happens in case anyone does get to buy such an illegal policy? They’d still have to pay the “fine” because they won’t have Obamacare-compliant polices and the President didn’t give those people any “prosecutorial discretion”.

Besides, Obama himself said the reason for “Obama’s Big Fix” is ““What we want to do is to be able to say to these folks, you know what, the Affordable Care Act is not going to be the reason why insurers have to cancel your plan.”

That’s just plain despicable. Absolutely despicable. Coming up with a health care plan that requires encouraging companies to break the law, yet knowing the call to illegality is actually impossible anyway, and then on top of doing that, doing it solely to shift blame from himself and the Democrats that passed this monstrosity.

Mortally ill people who’ve lost their insurance and their doctors will soon be dying because of Obamacare. Ted Cruz needs to gather a couple of dozen of these poor souls from around the nation, and hold a press conference with them surrounding him, and declare: “Mr. President, let’s tear down this Obamacare now! It’s time to repeal this monstrosity. Too many innocent people are dying already. Let’s stop the horror before more are killed by it.”


18 posted on 11/15/2013 12:31:19 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Resolute Conservative
The correct answer is that Obama is afraid there will be a stampede to buy the old plans without mandates.

And that would be not only hugely embarrassing for him, it would help destroy O-care.

19 posted on 11/15/2013 12:31:59 PM PST by what's up
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To: Bulwinkle

Good. Let OCare Die a Painful Death. Let the Dem’s reap what they sow. I feel bad for many Americans, but many of those American’s either voted for the Dem’s and O OR they stayed home, so I’m very stingy with my sympathy, I don’t give it lightly.


20 posted on 11/15/2013 12:32:02 PM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: MrB

That might be why Harry wouldn’t allow it to be brought up - he ALREADY knows who will defect...


21 posted on 11/15/2013 12:32:39 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MrB
That might be why Harry wouldn’t allow it to be brought up - he didn’t want to see who would defect.

Yes, that is true.

22 posted on 11/15/2013 12:32:44 PM PST by what's up
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To: Bulwinkle

Thank you, Chief Justice John Roberts!

Disgraced, lousy Chief Botcher!


23 posted on 11/15/2013 12:32:46 PM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: JoeProBono

Early MST3K was hilarious; OweBama’s trainwrecks (of all sorts) instill genuine, valid fears.

(not that you didn’t already know that)


24 posted on 11/15/2013 12:33:00 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: MrB

So now Reid owns this mess with Obama. GOOD!


25 posted on 11/15/2013 12:33:05 PM PST by CityCenter (Resist Obamacare!)
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To: JoeProBono

Can someone bring Madame Guillotine to the floor`

Pretty please?

With sugar on?


26 posted on 11/15/2013 12:33:26 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Bulwinkle

This is the best political outcome. Repubs showed concern by trying to modify the ACA passing legislation in the HR. Dems in the Senate and the President showed that they don’t care about people with cancelled policies. The Obamacare disaster rolls right along. I expect that people will have to feel the pain from it before it finally sinks in. Too bad responsible people have to suffer along with the other obamabots, but it can’t be avoided now.


27 posted on 11/15/2013 12:33:29 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: Bulwinkle
The aide said there is not any pressure on the Senate Democratic leadership to bring the legislation sponsored by Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) to the floor.

TRANSLATION: They are scared it might pass, better to trash it.

28 posted on 11/15/2013 12:33:43 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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29 posted on 11/15/2013 12:34:05 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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30 posted on 11/15/2013 12:34:35 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Bulwinkle

31 posted on 11/15/2013 12:34:50 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Bulwinkle

Ok, Now Boehner needs to vote on a REPEAL bill!..


32 posted on 11/15/2013 12:34:58 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: hal ogen

CLUSTER ____ ! Add your own word(s)
butter nut fudge


33 posted on 11/15/2013 12:35:41 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: 3Fingas

Completely agree. All along the Reps were taking vote upon vote to deal with this bill. Dems refused. With every refusal the are screwing Americans in behalf of their ideology. THis is going to get worse for them each and every day. I hope they get oblitarated next Fall.


34 posted on 11/15/2013 12:35:45 PM PST by CityCenter (Resist Obamacare!)
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To: tet68

Yeah, he didn’t want it to be “out” as to how weak the president now is.


35 posted on 11/15/2013 12:36:02 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Bulwinkle

This is fine as long as the House doesn’t fall for the democrats usual game, talking the House into negotiating with itself over and over until they pass something the Senate and President will “accept.”

November of next year is one day closer every day!! 354 days to go!


36 posted on 11/15/2013 12:36:19 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: JoeProBono

Great 2014 Pol Poster,word Dem needs to be in there some where


37 posted on 11/15/2013 12:36:58 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: rktman

38 posted on 11/15/2013 12:36:59 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: what's up
But now close to 40 Democrats are on record as backing the legislative fix.

Which will help them in their re-election bids.

39 posted on 11/15/2013 12:37:30 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Bulwinkle

I looked at the list of Democrats who voted for the Upton bill. I know at least one of them, Scott Peters (D-Calif)was beatable. He barely beat incumbent Bilbray (R) in 2010. Now Peters can claim he had nothing to do with 0bamacare and tried to save his constituents. Not good.


40 posted on 11/15/2013 12:38:47 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: IbJensen

There were four other justices that joined this guy. Spread the wealth around to them too.


41 posted on 11/15/2013 12:39:24 PM PST by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members http://www.freerepublic.com/foof the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: Bulwinkle

Make Bammy put back all his waivers and exemptions and make sure they go in effect January 1.
You’ll see a tidal wave GOP win after 11 months of original recipe Bammycare. Delaying it a year means nobody get to feel the pain prior to the election.

Upton and the rest SHOULD run away from ‘fixes’ as fast as possible

“The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.”-Abraham Lincoln


42 posted on 11/15/2013 12:39:31 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: DannyTN
Good the Senate Rats up in 2014 get no cover vote…The stupid party can say we tried…and Obama is stuck with his useless plan
43 posted on 11/15/2013 12:39:35 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Bulwinkle

The whole purpose of zer0’s presser yesterday was to give Reid the stop signal on this bill and to mitigate the Dem revolt in the house. Boner needs to fast track bills like this and go on the offensive and just announce a vote on this bill before the WH and Dems can react.


44 posted on 11/15/2013 12:39:53 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Bulwinkle

Awesome. It’s all on Odumbo. Now someone tell these RINO’s to stop helping the Dumocraps, mkay?


45 posted on 11/15/2013 12:40:15 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: what's up

Does this help the 40 dim congressmen with the folks back home?


46 posted on 11/15/2013 12:41:12 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: Bulwinkle

Reid leaving his Senators up in 2014 out hanging!


47 posted on 11/15/2013 12:41:14 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Bulwinkle
Harry Reid & Obama hate people keeping the insurance plan they like! Spread the news!
48 posted on 11/15/2013 12:41:29 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: struggle

THIS is what conservatives have been warning the country about for years. The longer Obamacare is in place, the more people hate it and the more they hate it, the more they hound even the liberal congress critters that they voted for.


49 posted on 11/15/2013 12:41:38 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: t1b8zs
CLUSTER ____ ! Add your own word(s)

Cluster FUBARry

50 posted on 11/15/2013 12:42:08 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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