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House Passes Upton’s ‘If You Like It’ Obamacare Fix
Roll Call ^ | 11/15/2013 | Emma Dumain

Posted on 11/15/2013 10:48:38 AM PST by tapatio

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To: MissMagnolia

39 Dems joined, 4 Rs abstained...


121 posted on 11/15/2013 12:46:19 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: tapatio

HUGE mistake by GOP-e morons


122 posted on 11/15/2013 12:50:57 PM PST by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Marcella

Do you want nationalized health care? I don’t.

The only way to make sure we NEVER have it, is to let folks go through the grief they are experiencing right now.

We are bailing out the Left here. We are minimizing the downside to nationalized health care.

We are framing the argument that nationalized health care can work alright, and we’re going to fix it so it will.

NO DAMN IT! Let it fully flop. Let folks get so pissed off they won’t ever want nationalized health care.

We’re in effect making nationalized health care possible, by fixing it, so it works just the way Obama wanted.

That’s not just stupid, it’s downright suicidal.


123 posted on 11/15/2013 12:51:15 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: Patriotic1

121 post about an “Upton” plan, and NOT ONE photo of Kate??

Man... this board is really slipping... :-(


124 posted on 11/15/2013 12:51:29 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: DoughtyOne

That “doing without” part gets me wondering if the next march on the White Hut will be a bunch of folks in wheelchairs, on gurneys, dragging IV’s, lining up to upchuck thru the fence, sick and lame dims all-—demanding their rights and their health care. While a march on the Hut is long overdue it might be surprising who actually does it?


125 posted on 11/15/2013 12:57:38 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: cherokee1

That would be interesting wouldn’t it.


126 posted on 11/15/2013 1:04:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: R_Kangel

Any bill dingy Harry brings to the floor can be amended. Amendments could create a cornicopia of difficult votes for red state dems to take.


127 posted on 11/15/2013 1:05:36 PM PST by reviled downesdad
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To: tapatio

Big deal, for one year. All that does is kick the can down the road past the 2014 election cycle. Why not put in place a policy that people can purchase whatever G.D. policy suits their needs?


128 posted on 11/15/2013 1:07:12 PM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: Bryanw92

What makes you thing a GOP-sponsored bill to instantiate “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan” into law is an attempt to save Obamacare?

The most likely outcome is that it’s killed in the Senate, hopefully with a vote putting lots of ‘Rat Senators on record as opposing it: big political win for our side.

Even if it passes the Senate, Obama will likely veto it, and if he doesn’t, it ensures the “death spiral” for the exchange-compliant plans will accelerate as people stick with their old, inexpensive, catastrophic-only or high-deductible plans, rather than buying the covers-everything-whether-you-could-possibly-need-it-or-not Obamacare package.


129 posted on 11/15/2013 1:30:27 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: tapatio

Good!

The Bill is weak but Dems are against it so what the heck..


130 posted on 11/15/2013 1:35:22 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: The_Reader_David

Not that much of anybody cares....

....but I think you’re right.


131 posted on 11/15/2013 1:42:46 PM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: R_Kangel

“The GOP, the last guardians of the Constitution,...”

Now that’s a laugh!


132 posted on 11/15/2013 2:42:02 PM PST by Hugh the Scot
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I thought the Republicans should have just laid low,

How long do you think they should have laid low because people are losing their insurance every single day.

To me, waiting as a political strategy while people are getting hurt is a Dem move. I'm glad they're trying to do something.

133 posted on 11/15/2013 3:11:03 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Third Person

I will buy some stock in “hope”. I’ll hope with you that this messes ObamaCare up so badly that even the Dems see the wisdom of repealing it.


134 posted on 11/15/2013 3:19:18 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Yes, I think the opponent’s campaigning skills are important. I agree with that.

It’s also important if we’re talking a normally red seat recently taken over by a democrat in the last one or two elections. They wouldn’t be quite as entrenched.


135 posted on 11/15/2013 3:23:12 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Bryanw92

Don’t worry. This bill is going to go down in flames. There is no way they can salvage it. Wait until it starts hitting the medicare folks. There is no sweeping this mess under the rug. We’ve only seen the tip of this iceberg.


136 posted on 11/15/2013 3:45:55 PM PST by jersey117
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To: Kenny

Agree. We’re better than them. The video of the woman with the brain tumor was just heartbreaking. No one deserves the hell Obama has wreaked on our ccountry.


137 posted on 11/15/2013 3:49:34 PM PST by jersey117
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To: firebrand

Well yah,

Neo-marxist senate leader Reid gutted a House bill entirely and replaced it with the ACA,aka,obamadeathcare.

The House bill was similar but nevertheless


138 posted on 11/15/2013 4:09:33 PM PST by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: Kenny

When your opponent is in the process of destroying himself, keep out of his way.


139 posted on 11/15/2013 5:04:22 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: tapatio
Rush has been making the point this week, that the GOPe trying to once gain step in and save the Dems bacon, may not necessarily be incompetence on their part, but rather because they actually want Obamacare, and it would be a slap in the face to the conservative base.

Doesn't matter, as with everything, this will work to Obama’s advantage...the GOPe will ensure that.

140 posted on 11/15/2013 6:12:53 PM PST by Artcore
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