Skip to comments."Serious" TED CRUZ rocks TONIGHT SHOW with "Bad Jay" LENO [PHOTOS, analysis, FReeper "after party"!]
Posted on 11/12/2013 4:08:52 AM PST by RonDog
From PAULA BOLYARD's wonderful article on pjmedia.com:Compare and Contrast: Leno Interviewing Obama and Cruz
Does Jay have a double standard?
On Friday, Texas Senator Ted Cruz made his first appearance on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno.
Leno, allegedly in his last season as host of the Tonight Show, has not been known as a particularly partisan entertainer,
so it was surprising to see him go "Candy Crowley" on Ted Cruz...
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...Some on Twitter compared Leno to a prosecuting attorney as he interrupted Cruz and accused him
of everything from shutting down the government to wanting violent psychopaths to have guns.Cruz, for his part, used the appearance to his advantage, clearly understanding both the venue and the audience.It seemed to go over well with the audience, which erupted into cheers after several of Cruzs points...
Although Cruz is certainly more than capable of holding his own in a debate with Leno,
he chose mostly to keep his powder dry, defying the media-generated image of him as a hostile aggressor.
He was relaxed and laid back, despite the tough questioning.
THIS THREAD will help to review, analyze and document that historic event. :)
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Why invite someone on to a "comedy show" and turn it into Crossfire? - YaelleMy thought, exactly!There already are enough "political" shows out there. :(--snip --I never ever saw Leno quite that rough on anyone ever. - YaelleI don't watch the "Tonight Show" often enough to speak with authority on this......but it did seem very "out of character" for Jay to be constantly INTERRUPTING Senator Cruz......and ZINGING him with obviously prepared "gotcha" statements, and clearly leftist talking points.
Never watch the Leno show; maybe some Freeper who did catch it could fill us in on how it went for Cruz?
How did he look?
Its interesting to go back and watch Lenos interview with President Obama from this past August, andHere's MORE from EXCELLENT ANALYSIS by PAULA BOLYARD, posted on pjmedia.com:
compare the questions and tone with Lenos interview with Cruz last night...
...The most obviously noticeable difference is how often Leno interrupts Cruz compared to Obama.
Leno lets the president finish nearly every answer.
Even when Obama lapses into "um...uh...uh..." Leno patiently waits for Obama to continue.
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From the very first question, you can see the difference in tone between the two interviews.
Leno to Obama:Happy Birthday! How did you celebrate? What did you do?Leno to Cruz:
- [responding to Obama's basketball comment] Youre pretty competitive, so...
Ive seen Michelle tease you about your gray hair youve got a bit of silver in your hair do you tease back?Ive been reading a lot about you lately and they describe you as aggressive, arrogant, and abrasive. Accurate?Leno tosses the president a few softball questions to relax him and create a friendly atmosphere.
- Any one of those? Can you believe any one of those?
What three adjectives would you use to describe...
With Cruz, he goes straight to the "everyone pretty much agrees that youre a jerk. Why do you think that is?" question...
...but it did seem very "out of character" for Jay to be constantly INTERRUPTING Senator Cruz...I found the FULL TRANSCRIPT (provided by Senator Cruz's office) from last Friday's interview here:
...and ZINGING him with obviously prepared "gotcha" statements, and clearly leftist talking points.
When Jay said that “obamacare is the law of the land, we should just get on with it,” Cruz should have replied that “slavery was the law of the land, should we have moved on with that also?” A missed opportunity to get the crowd behind him.
Cruz was as smooth as a baby seal, Leno was agitated that the audience was responding with loud cheers to Cruz' common sense.
I don't know the political make up of that audience, but regardless of political affiliation, they hate obamacare.
Cruz was a big hit. Watch it on u-tube.
The moment the word “slavery” comes out of his mouth, the race-baiting lib lapdogs will have a field day from here to 2016.
Im sure Sen Cruz knows that.
Ted looked and acted and sounded good. Leno = Delta Bravo
Don't waste your time watching it. Nothing earth shattering.
Don't even know why it's threadworthy
Ted Cruz is pretty good.
On Fox, the ladies and Breastisters** show leg....... Cruz shows boot....... Texas black boot.
He is super cool and laid back. He makes point after point after point and the audience applauds.
He’s da man!!!
(** in England they have Barristers. On Fox news, they have Breastisters)
Now if youre saying Leno was harsher towards Cruz than other Republicans who have been on his show... - ImpyI'm saying that I was in the studio audience when Jay interviewed Sarah Palin (once) and Ann Coulter (twice),
and I did not recognize the Jay Leno that I saw reading Obama talking points at Ted Cruz last Friday.Jay may be a LEFTY, but he's also an ENTERTAINER......and he knows that a big chunk of his audience in Middle America is conservative.After some obligatory jabs at Sarah and Ann, Jay was warm and friendly with BOTH of them,So, I'm just trying to figure out what happened THIS TIME.
NOT the partisan hack who kept interrupting Senator Cruz with attempted "gotcha" questions.My preliminary analysis is that the Left FEARS Ted CruzIt appeared to me that this time around, SOMEONE (probably ValJar, the Night Stalker)
more than they feared Sarah Palin after she lost, and
more than they fear Ann Coulter, who isn't running for anything.
pressured Jay agree to this attempted hit on Senator Cruz.At least that's MY opinion on what happened. ;)
Leno is a privileged elite entertainer who has some good writers. Millions and millions of dollars in rare and expensive cars, lavish lifestyle and all the best Hollywood has to offer.
His obvious deference and servile attitude to Obama and any of his minions on air is sickening. My guess is any of his Obama jokes are pre-approved by the White House.
You could see that Leno was armed with all the leftist talking points and tried consistently to land a punch. And, he did come close one or two times, but Cruz’ resiliency stifled him. You could also see in Leno that small air of being afraid - once or twice he meekly shrugged his shoulders on ending a talking point question.
I think that what I’m calling Leno-as-afraid is something he and all the other entrenched liberal (and GOP) politicians see as they go whistling past the graveyard in trying to attack Cruz. They see - THEY KNOW - that Cruz carries with him all the right stuff, that Ronald Reagan style, and a very, very seriously committed number of people out here in real America that are behind him more than money, fame, fortune or entitlement can ever be.
Ideology, whether religious or political can’t really be bought. It has been responsible for genocide; and, in another vein, it was responsible for the founding of this country - two wildly different outcomes from basically the same thing. Here is where I see them as ‘afraid’, scared to death in fact. They know they really can’t stop a Cruz crusade under the right conditions even will all the cash in this country, and it scares them.
I think that what Im calling Leno-as-afraid is something he and all the other entrenched liberalBINGO!
(and GOP) politicians see as they go whistling past the graveyard in trying to attack Cruz.
They see - THEY KNOW - that Cruz carries with him all the right stuff, that Ronald Reagan style,
and a very, very seriously committed number of people out here in real America that are behind him
more than money, fame, fortune or entitlement can ever be.
Cruz Educates Leno on the Real ReaganHe's got Ted Cruz on there, and he said, "Look, I know you're a man of principle.
You have your principles.
Does that prevent compromise, when you're so set on what you do?"
CRUZ: My view on compromise is actually exactly the same thing as what Ronald Reagan's was.
Reagan said, "What do you do if they offer you half a loaf?"
Answer: "You take it, and then you come back for more."
LENO: I don't think Ronald Reagan could get in the Tea Party today.
CRUZ: You know, I don't think that's right at all. Look at what Reagan did.
CRUZ: Reagan led a grassroots revolution.
I think where we are today is an awful lot like the late 1970s --
CRUZ: -- where we had economic stagnation.
We had people hurting because the government policies under Jimmy Carter, they weren't working.
Remember, Reagan challenged an combatant Republican president 1976 in a primary --
CRUZ: -- and there was I grassroots revolution where he said:
Listen, this isn't working; let's get back to free market principles --
CRUZ: -- back to the Constitution...
Now, let's go back to March 13th, 1975, on The Tonight Show, 1975, Johnny Carson had Ronaldus Magnus, and they had this exchange
CARSON: Everybody is confused. How are we gonna get out of this?
REAGAN: I think one of the things is that people keep looking to government for the answer,
and government's the problem. (applause)
A moment ago you asked, you know, about people and feeling not only confused, but low and down on America.
First of all, the American people, if they would just take a little inventory and look around,
you triple our troubles and we're better off than any other people on earth.
And we've asked so much of government, and we've gotten in the habit over the last 40 years of thinking that government has the answers.
There's very little that government can do as efficiently and as economically as the people can do themselves.
And if the government would shut the doors and sneak away for about three weeks, we'd never miss 'em.
RUSH: Ronald Reagan was the Tea Party.
But there's Leno, "Well, Reagan, he couldn't even get in the Tea Party."
You know, a lot of leftists say that.
"You know, the Republicans, they would reject Reagan in a primary election."
Bull shhh. Bull. It's a crock...
“How did he look?”
I thought pretty good, seeing as Leno was obviously hostile, and putting out a lot of “ums” and ‘huhs” when Cruz was talking, indicating he didn’t agree with Cruz and couldn’t wait for the chance to say so - very rude.. I rarely watch Leno but don’t recall him ever doing that with anyone else.
It would have been good if Cruz could have lightened the atmosphere and not come across so serious, but with Leno setting the tone like that, it just was not possible.
I watched a little.
The crowd seemed very enthusiastic for Cruz, even before he was on.
But Jay invited so many straw men into the room that I just turned it off and went to bed. Kind of disappointed at how much of a jerk Leno turned out to be. He could have at least started off with some cordiality. It did make Cruz seem pretty cool and collected though.
I think Harris Faultner finally got the memo to dress a bit more sedately.
I was just watching the video from the link. Ted Cruz kept getting interrupted by Mr. Lowinfo. Leno is a certified idiot. Most, not all, of what Cruz did get out were platitudes.
Ted looked and acted and sounded good. Leno = Delta BravoLOL.
Don't waste your time watching it. Nothing earth shattering.
Don't even know why it's threadworthy.
Because a LOT of people, mostly "low information" voters, watch this show every night! ;)From marquee.blogs.cnn.com:
Leno's 'Tonight Show' takes top spot in ratings
March 2nd, 2010Love him or hate him, people are still watching Jay Leno.
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Leno's first night back, which featured actor and musician Jamie Foxx as well as Olympic gold medal skier Lindsey Vonn,
ranked No. 1 among major networks in his time slot, according to Nielsen Media Research.
Leno had 6.6 million total viewers in what Nielsen calls the "fast national" (that is, preliminary) ratings,
in comparison to the 3.8 million who tuned in to David Letterman's "Late Show"
and the 4.1 million who were watching "Nightline" on ABC.
Leno had a 1.6 rating among adults 18-49, in contrast to
David Letterman's rating of 1.1 in the same demographic.
Leno's first night back behind the "Tonight Show" desk had a positive effect for Jimmy Fallon as well.
The host of "Late Night" came in at 2.1 million viewers,
beating out "Late Late Show" host Craig Ferguson, who had 1.8 million viewers.
-——..and ZINGING him with obviously prepared “gotcha” statements, and clearly leftist talking points.-——
I had a somewhat different view. Leno was being Devil’s Advocate. He was getting to the heart of the Cruz opposition and promoting the response. Rather than a detractor, I think maybe Leno is a Cruz fan. This was after all NBC, the DNC propaganda organ.
Cruz always prevailed. As a matter of fact, in prevailing he aroused the audience to heavy agreement and applause.
Nothing “surprising” here at all! Just because Leno has been after 0bama a little bit, people think he’s now some friend of conservatives. But he was simply brutal on Bush when he was in office, when I stopped watching him.
I used to love the guy, but stopped watching sometime early in the Bush 43 presidency. he was cruel and relentless toward GWB and other conservatives.
While many are aghast at Leno’s hostile attitude, I think he actually did Cruz a favor. Cruz demonstrated that he can handle tough situations, not lose his composure, and has a wealth of information to back his stance. In my opinion, he certainly won over the crowd. At one point it appeared Leno had to go to break before Cruz could respond to an implication Leno threw out (typical Democrat trick of putting out false implications, then not allowing a response-much like we saw in the VA governor’s race). I view this much like sports. Do you want to see your team play the lowest ranked opponent or do you want to see them in a hotly contested match? Cruz showed he has the metal to go forward and the contest shows how badly Democrats fear him.
We watched it. My husband does NOT get swept away, but watches and analyzes. We both thot Ted Cruz did an excellent job! He stayed on topic, regardless of Leno’s constant interruptions. He was positive, focused. He knew what he thought and he did not hesitate to say it. You could tell he really believed it! How refreshing. We were both very impressed. Wished the cameras had focused on the loud and proud Tea Party contingent. Thanks RonDog et al.
Kind of disappointed at how much of a jerk Leno turned out to be.That's what I thought.
He could have at least started off with some cordiality. - chrisser
But he NEVER rips into guests like this.
Definitely out of character for Jay, and he didnt seem to be enjoying it. - Yaelle
It's almost as if he had been assimilated by the BORG! :)
Leno did not act like his usual affable self with Cruz, he acted very nervous.
The NSA listens to Jay Leno’s phone calls, just like they listened to John Roberts’ phone calls. You get marching orders from Obama and you follow them.
Cruz was great. Lanternjaw was, too, until Cruz came out.
Then it was like some stagehand stuck a stick up his a**.
While many are aghast at Lenos hostile attitude, I think he actually did Cruz a favor.Yes, I also think that Senator Cruz did VERY WELL on the issues, considering. :)
Cruz demonstrated that he can handle tough situations, not lose his composure,
and has a wealth of information to back his stance...
Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) appeared on Jay Lenos show Friday night, sitting down for a set of generally dead-serious questions from the late-night host
and winning quite a bit of applause from the crowd...especially when Cruz tackled ObamaCare.
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Cruz scored his first big applause of the night by observing,"The biggest divide we have is not between Republicans and Democrats...Leno proceeded to misunderstand what Cruz meant by "entrenched," or maybe he just wanted to change the subject, but it didnt ruin the moment.
it is between entrenched politicians in both parties in Washington, and the American people."
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After Cruz scored another round of applause by identifyingObamaCare as "the biggest job killer in the nation,"Leno hastily changed the subject again, attempting to put Cruz on the defensive by bringing up social issues and the government shutdown.
(Referring to Newt Gingrichs description of the shutdown as a game, Leno insisted, "Its not a game. A lot of people lose their jobs."
Who, Jay? Who lost his job during the shutdown?)
Leno ended up making a point often raised by Republicans who disagreed with the Cruz strategy, saying that
if the confrontation leading to the government shutdown had been avoided, ObamaCare would still be failing just as hard
as its failing now, but Republicans would have higher approval ratings."I said throughout that we shouldnt shut down the government," Cruz responded.I hope Senator Cruz colleagues are paying attention, because thats how you control a narrative,
"And the reason we had a government shutdown is that President Obama and the Democrats said,
'We will not negotiate, and we will not compromise.'"
or at least get into the fight for controlling it.
Of course, they could have learned the technique by watching the behavior Democrats over the past few decades.
When was the last time they ever sat back and meekly accepted the Republicans preferred narrative of anything?
The NSA listens to Jay Lenos phone calls, just like they listened to John Roberts phone calls.LOLOL!
You get marching orders from Obama and you follow them.
More likely, he may have been approached by ValJar (The Night Stalker)
“I had a somewhat different view. Leno was being Devils Advocate. He was getting to the heart of the Cruz opposition and promoting the response. Rather than a detractor, I think maybe Leno is a Cruz fan. This was after all NBC, the DNC propaganda organ.”
Had he let Cruz speak without cutting him off with another gotcha, I would agree...but he didn’t. He kicked off a bunch of chain fire questions with complicated answers and kept cutting him off.
It would have been good if Cruz could have lightened the atmosphere and not come across so serious,THAT was my biggest disappointment: the way that this interview got bogged down in POLICY arguments,
but with Leno setting the tone like that, it just was not possible.
I see Jay hitting all the liberal talking points
I couldn’t agree with you more.
While Obama got the Oprah style of questioning, Leno switched to Piers Morgan mode for Cruz,
asking him why he wants to let psychopaths run around the country buying guns.
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Leno ended the Obama segment with some fawning and softball questions:
Leno to ObamaWhats new with health care? Anything new?Despite the tough questions and a host that was less than sympathetic to his views, Cruz handled himself well
Well I was able to get health care for the guys who work in my shop for me theyre all over 50.
They never had health care and I was able to get it now because you cant be turned down.
I thought you spoke very eloquently about the Trayvon Martin case and I could tell that you were speaking from the heart.
Tell me about that.
You told a group of young people that broccoli was your favorite food.
Now, lying to voters is one thing. Lying to children, thats...
can you put your right hand on the Bible and say broccoli...
Does Michelle make a broccoli cake with the broccoli icing?
Did the kids believe you or did they go, "Oh, come on!"?
in a venue that is obviously not his sweet spot. While Leno was certainly not hostile to Cruz, its clear he is not a supporter.
Moreover, its a shame that Leno couldnt step out of his prosecutor shoes during part of the interview
so he could engage Cruz in some friendly banter to show his less wonky side.
Lenos audience tunes in to be entertained, not lectured about the W.P.A. and the government shutdown.
Nevertheless, Cruz was relaxed and confident and the audience seemed to relate to his populist talking points
about entrenched politicians and Obamacare being a job-killer.
He may have won himself a few new fans in the process, even though
he was not afforded much of an opportunity to show his softer, more human side.
I cannot beleive people have so easily forgotten all that. I know what team Leno is on, and has been all along.
Leno must’ve got pretty strict orders from his masters.
Wished the cameras had focused on the loud and proud Tea Party contingent. Thanks RonDog et al.
Shhhh! Let the world believe that a random LA audience really was supportive of Cruz’s remarks. Not ‘radical right-wingers.’
Ted Cruz probably has 20 IQ points on anyone that he engages in conversation. The man is brilliant. Unlike the Harvard Law grad who is in the WH now.
Way to go Ted! (((ping)))
I can agree with your point to a degree.
There is another important and probably governing factor, time
Leno, like Cavuto and even Rush sometimes presses the interview to get in all the points within the allotted time. Cruz made his points. He is a very, nay extremely, savvy interviewee. The goal is to limit the discussion to the main points and not spend a lot of time on unneeded garnishment.
Leno laid out the points rapid fire and Cruz provided rapid fire and directly on message response.
Unlike the Sebelius Congressional hearings, where she goes on and on eating up the very limited clock both Leno and Cruz completely understood the process.
In my view, both made outstanding performances
Shhhh! Let the world believe that a random LA audience really was supportive of Cruzs remarks.It is true that we had SOME southern California conservatives in the studio audience at last Friday's show...
Not radical right-wingers.
...but almost EVERYONE ELSE that we met there were VISITORS from out of town - NOT "locals."I was pleasantly surprised with how many truly "random" audience members supported Senator Cruz.
In particular, I talked extensively to Ted Cruz supporters from Denver (Colorado), Canton (Ohio) and Ontario (Canada)......who had NO IDEA that Ted was going to be on the "Tonight Show" that day.
They were just good "salt of the earth" Americans from "flyover" country, who came to see Jay.