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NYC Food Bank Head: 40% of Veterans Need Food Assistance
CBS New York ^ | November 10, 2013 | CBS

Posted on 11/11/2013 8:46:20 AM PST by centurion316

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Veterans are returning to New York City from their service only to be faced with going hungry, the head a city food bank said.

As WCBS 880′s Monica Miller reported, Margarette Purvis, president and CEO of the Food Bank for New York City, tried to raise awareness about the plight of former service members during a speech in the Bronx on Sunday.

Veterans Day is Monday.

“On this Veterans Day, when we’re waving our flags — I need every New Yorker to know — 40 percent of New York City veterans are relying on soup kitchens and pantries,” Purvis said.

That amounts to 95,000 people.

“That is not a guesstimate; that is a fact,” she said.

(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: foodbank; veterans
According to the Department of Veterans Affairs, New York City has 201,283 veterans. So, her figure seems to be correct, but cannot possibly be true. How did they determine that 95,000 veterans were eating at their soup kitchens regularly. Did they check ID cards? More likely, they asked them.

So, what percentage of the homeless and downtrodden claiming to be veterans, really are? My guess, about 10%.

1 posted on 11/11/2013 8:46:21 AM PST by centurion316
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To: centurion316
According to the Department of Veterans Affairs, New York City has 201,283 veterans.
For a city of 6-7 million people, that sounds low.
2 posted on 11/11/2013 8:51:08 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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I think that the census figure for NYC is above 8 million. The number does sound low, but that’s the number reported by the Dept. of Veterans Affairs. Recruiting duty in NYC has been like the Maytag repairman for years.


3 posted on 11/11/2013 8:55:26 AM PST by centurion316
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To: centurion316
More anti-military slander.

The VAST majority of our brave fighting men and women are MORE than capable of feeding themselves and living very successful lives.

This is out of that same disgusting “trip wire vet” meme that the liberals used to smear Vietnam vets who were, in fact, better educated, less likely to suffer from substance abuse, less likely to have mental issues, earned more, lived longer, and had happier lives than the liberals who stayed here and lit their bongs with their draft notices.

Scum.

4 posted on 11/11/2013 8:57:27 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: South Hawthorne

Life long misfits of the type frequently found at soup kitchen do not make it through the military’s screening process. If they do manage to enlist, they are weeded out during basic training. Veterans, when they leave the service, get jobs, lead productive lives, and respect the laws of society. As with all groups, there are exceptions, but they are rare. In addition, some have problems with their transition, but the great majority use their training discipline, and motivation to work their way through it.

Quite a large contrast with the “Occupy” crowd.


5 posted on 11/11/2013 9:07:27 AM PST by centurion316
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To: centurion316

I’m thinkng esp in NYC probably a fair number of them are alcoholics, addicts or mentally ill

many of the so-called “homeless” have had some military service. In some case their problems caused their discharges as well as estrangement from their families


6 posted on 11/11/2013 9:09:34 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: centurion316

Far be it from me to slander a worthwhile charity.

I know nothing about the Food Bank for New York City.

But as the old Hunkie’s used to say in Cleveland, “dot’s boolsheet”


7 posted on 11/11/2013 9:11:19 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: centurion316
The number does sound low, but that’s the number reported by the Dept. of Veterans Affairs.
According to the 2000 Census, StatJump lists NYC first in the US with 348,722 vets.
That's about 50% more than 2010 census (201,283). WWII vets moving out of city or dieing?
8 posted on 11/11/2013 9:11:19 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: silverleaf
many of the so-called “homeless” have had some military service.

A very large proportion of these were discharged before completing basic training as they were deemed unsuitable. They have an affinity for combat fatigues that they never wore and badges and medals that they never earned.

9 posted on 11/11/2013 9:12:42 AM PST by centurion316
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To: oh8eleven

New York City provided large numbers of soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines during World War II and that continued until the elimination of the draft in the 1970’s. Today, I don’t think New Yorkers enlist in very large numbers.

The World War II veterans are almost gone, that’s probably the reason for the large drop in the past 10 years.


10 posted on 11/11/2013 9:16:20 AM PST by centurion316
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And I think you are a flaming optimist believing that maybe 10% of downandouters claiming to be vets actually are. I’m going with more like 1%. The sign-toting panhandlers (help a vet) never know what their unit was, what their MOS was, where their last duty station was etc etc etc. I’ve tried to hire these guys before but they typically can’t count bullets let alone clear a firearm. This all got started after WW II when people used to give hitch-hiking GI’s a ride. Didn’t take long before chiselers were scrounging up uni’s to get free bus rides etc. And they killed it for everybody by the time Korea was over.


11 posted on 11/11/2013 10:54:01 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: cherokee1

Our two numbers may be closer than you think. Service members separated with less than 180 days service typically receive an Entry Level Separation (ELS). Not good, not bad, just out. These are usually done because a trainee is found to be unsuitable for military service. 180 is key because many veterans benefits kick in after that point.

So are these people veterans? Many call themselves just that and many organizations recognize it. Soups kitchens are probably pretty high up on the list of those that do. So, 1% who really served beyond basic training and 9% misfits who never made it beyond their friendly Drill Sergeant.


12 posted on 11/11/2013 11:13:40 AM PST by centurion316
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How did they determine that 95,000 veterans were eating at their soup kitchens regularly.

Don't ever forget that 81.2% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

13 posted on 11/11/2013 11:23:04 AM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. [Ludwig Von Mises])
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This shit if flying on social media....I think it is total BS.

The military has their sludge too, but at much lower rates than the average lazy POS.

My experience is that vets are very self-reliant.


14 posted on 11/11/2013 11:27:26 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Ted Cruz...2016-24 ...A New Conservative Era)
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To: centurion316

I think your 10% guess is way too high. Claiming to be a veteran is a really easy con to use.


15 posted on 11/11/2013 11:29:34 AM PST by Bob
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To: centurion316

Economics 101 tells us that demand is potentially unlimited for any basic good offered completely for free.


16 posted on 11/11/2013 12:35:42 PM PST by PGR88
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She sounds like an acolyte of Mitch Snyder, infamous homeless hustler in the 80’s.


17 posted on 11/11/2013 3:08:59 PM PST by pluvmantelo (The issue isn't the issue-power is the issue.)
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To: centurion316
Vets are by and large motivated and self reliant to the point this smells like RATsh!t to me...
18 posted on 11/11/2013 4:48:27 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: centurion316

Many employers avoid hiring or retaining prior servicemen of the enlisted, combat type. The debt-sucking, androgenous effete are averted to men.


19 posted on 11/11/2013 5:26:43 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: South Hawthorne
On this issue there needs to be a reality check. Go to any food bank and they will tell you there is a noticeable number of vets. Some have just returned to a bad job market, or have trouble adjusting. Many are older vets who live off social security and nothing else so after rent and bills not much is left. Sure, many vets have done great but, many have not...and most are not lazy cons. They are men and women who served our country bravely and, honorably but for many reasons have fallen on hard times. Our church has a food pantry and we come across too many vets who are in need. I, for one, believe when a vet needs help, we help them. It is Veterans Day for Gods sake...take the day off from blaming our Vets.
20 posted on 11/11/2013 6:44:28 PM PST by matt60
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Our church has a food pantry and we come across too many vets who are in need. I, for one, believe when a vet needs help, we help them.

No one denies that some Vets need assistance, and we all agree we're morally obligated to help.

However, to say that Veterans are three times more likely to need assistance providing for even their most basic needs slanders the entire group. It portrays them as proportionally less competent and able than the general population by a significant margin, and that's just not true. Anyone who's served and/or been around those who've served knows this is not the case.

Gods sake...take the day off from blaming our Vets.

No one is blaming our Veterans. Some of us are defending their honor. You seem to be going along with the "Vets are inherently damaged people" school of thought.

21 posted on 11/12/2013 6:56:14 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: South Hawthorne

Just because you don’t like what something says does not mean it is not true and, denying the extent of their difficulties is certainly not defending their honor. As an aside, my father served in WWll and my brother is a West Point grad who served until retirement...I honor our troops.


22 posted on 11/12/2013 10:40:25 AM PST by matt60
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