Posted on 11/08/2013 11:01:19 AM PST by markomalley
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The 19th century mental health movement was a force to prevent the continuance of such barbarity. Leftists are barbarians.
That was what we had or were working towards until “deinstitutionalization” (prompted by the leftist lunacy that the mentally ill were just expressing their hatred of capitalism, combined with the right’s short-sighted penny-pinching).
Many large state institutions, although not necessarily snake pits, were certainly not ideal. But most were moving to a cottage system with supervised work and workshops, or even an external supervised housing and workshop system, with full institutionalization being reserved only for people who were completely unresponsive to any treatment and were threats to themselves and others or simply incapable of even functioning without assistance and even restraint.
Drugs have improved things a lot since the 1970s, but many of the drugs by themselves are less than optimum (some of the uninstitutionalized psychotic killers were actually taking drugs) and there needs to be much more research in this area. Gene therapy may also be a possibility someday.
But in the meantime, we need programs like the ones you have described. However, I don’t think that’s what Obamacare is aiming at.
I think you are right. When the employer mandate kicks in, it will be 10X worse than what we are now seeing. Tens of millions of heads exploding.
Oh, silly, there are no “death panels”.
You know how I know? Because I’m a liberal, and I know that Sarah Palin is an idiot,
and she said there WERE death panels. That’s how I know there aren’t, because I’m a smart liberal.
( smirk )
They are taking care of their base
This really is like watching the looters in “Atlas Shrugged” in real-time. ObamaCare makes insurance more expensive, so Sebelius just loads up more requirements driving costs up more expecting a different result.
Most of the friends I have who are on ‘mood elevators’ are Libs. I think we Conservatives don’t run to find a crutch whenever life doesn’t go our way. This is just Sebelius charging us all to keep the Lib sheeple compliant.
“If you like your shrink, you can keep your shrink. Period.”
“If you like your invisible friend, you can keep your invisible friend. Period”
(no disrespect to shrinks or people with invisible friends)
Delightful. Now our massively INCREASED premiums will go to take care of millions of druggies and addicts who have on interest in being cured, just having their symptoms alleviated - SOMETIMES.
Drugs have improved things a lot since the 1970s, but many of the drugs by themselves are less than optimum (some of the uninstitutionalized psychotic killers were actually taking drugs) and there needs to be much more research in this area. Gene therapy may also be a possibility someday.
But in the meantime, we need programs like the ones you have described. However, I don’t think that’s what Obamacare is aiming at.
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In the business the old drugs of the sixties and seventies are taking off again in popularity. Haldol, Thorazine, Stelazine, Clozaril, Lithium, Valium, Ativan, Librium.
Do ya think maybe this was added because of so many mentally deranged liberals?
One more point: If you’re mentally ill, how would you be capable of buying any insurance?
That should lower health care costs. /s
If nothing else, a lot of those drugs had predictable side effects. They generally zonked people out, whereas some of the new ones seem to make them even angrier and more difficult to control.
You're in the ballpark. When they cast resistance to the advancement of the homosexual/islamic/illegal immigration agenda as __phobic, there is, in plain view, a hidden purpose. We know phobics are mentally ill, so their opinions are to be marginalized and dismissed due to such mental disease, and above all they need psychiatric intervention. And now thanks be to the benevolent ones they will get it in spades.
health insurance companies already have provisions for mental health services 16 counseling sessions per year, no maximum for medications as prescribed by a physician. Okay I know this for certain as I have been in the counseling field. Or are they trying to do the most serious disorders are medicaid reimbursement.
I strongly believe they are pushing the medicaid standards. This will bankrupt states - the counseling provide at state recognized services is a fleecing of America. state recognized counselors receive salaries of 55,000 and up. private counseling services 26.00 is all they agree to pay at medicaid level. the same goes for podiatry services and dental services covered by medicaid. podiatry has medicare too, but the fee acceptable is 36.00 and the copayment from medicaid
i closed the doors of the counseling center I operated as I was going broke. I do counseling yet through another agency, but I do not make a whole lot there too. So sick of the lazy people whom scream that they have problems making for a disability. stupid and lazy are not a disability
so, in essence, another rate hike..
When I was working in SW Virginia a few years ago, there was an 8 month wait for a new patient on Medicaid to see a shrink. This should be interesting to watch.
Most if not all insurers covers mental health treatment.
The govt is telling a business what products it must offer... Marxism.
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