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Kathleen Sebelius announces new mental health parity requirements for health insurers
Washington Examiner ^ | 11-8-2013

Posted on 11/08/2013 11:01:19 AM PST by markomalley

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius on Friday said that new requirements imposed on insurance companies by Obamacare will require those companies to treat mental illness and addiction that same as physical illness, creating "the largest behavioral health expansion in a generation."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 0bamaphoney; banglist; guarantee; mentalhealth; mentalhealthreg; nobodycantakeaway; obamacare; obamacarepremiums; obamacareregulations; period; singlepayer
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To: Gen.Blather
An in-your-face liberal group runs housing and a soup kitchen two blocks from the state capital. It attracts lots of dangerous homeless people who have completely occupied and live in the huge down town library. It’s essentially useless to others and stinks of urine. This group has refused an excellent facility on the rural edge of the county because “We want to keep the homeless in-your-face until you solve the problem.” (Direct quote.) I saw a homeless man having a brutal fight with somebody who wasn’t there and he was energetically trying to kill this apparition. Yep, needs medication. But he’s on the street.

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The 19th century mental health movement was a force to prevent the continuance of such barbarity. Leftists are barbarians.

81 posted on 11/08/2013 12:25:11 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Chickensoup

That was what we had or were working towards until “deinstitutionalization” (prompted by the leftist lunacy that the mentally ill were just expressing their hatred of capitalism, combined with the right’s short-sighted penny-pinching).

Many large state institutions, although not necessarily snake pits, were certainly not ideal. But most were moving to a cottage system with supervised work and workshops, or even an external supervised housing and workshop system, with full institutionalization being reserved only for people who were completely unresponsive to any treatment and were threats to themselves and others or simply incapable of even functioning without assistance and even restraint.

Drugs have improved things a lot since the 1970s, but many of the drugs by themselves are less than optimum (some of the uninstitutionalized psychotic killers were actually taking drugs) and there needs to be much more research in this area. Gene therapy may also be a possibility someday.

But in the meantime, we need programs like the ones you have described. However, I don’t think that’s what Obamacare is aiming at.


82 posted on 11/08/2013 12:29:19 PM PST by livius
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To: TexasCajun

I think you are right. When the employer mandate kicks in, it will be 10X worse than what we are now seeing. Tens of millions of heads exploding.


83 posted on 11/08/2013 12:29:57 PM PST by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: Whenifhow

Oh, silly, there are no “death panels”.

You know how I know? Because I’m a liberal, and I know that Sarah Palin is an idiot,
and she said there WERE death panels. That’s how I know there aren’t, because I’m a smart liberal.

( smirk )


84 posted on 11/08/2013 12:30:03 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: markomalley

They are taking care of their base


85 posted on 11/08/2013 12:32:17 PM PST by nomobs
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To: markomalley

This really is like watching the looters in “Atlas Shrugged” in real-time. ObamaCare makes insurance more expensive, so Sebelius just loads up more requirements driving costs up more expecting a different result.


86 posted on 11/08/2013 12:32:30 PM PST by magellan
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To: markomalley

Most of the friends I have who are on ‘mood elevators’ are Libs. I think we Conservatives don’t run to find a crutch whenever life doesn’t go our way. This is just Sebelius charging us all to keep the Lib sheeple compliant.


87 posted on 11/08/2013 12:33:13 PM PST by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: markomalley

“If you like your shrink, you can keep your shrink. Period.”

“If you like your invisible friend, you can keep your invisible friend. Period”

(no disrespect to shrinks or people with invisible friends)


88 posted on 11/08/2013 12:34:49 PM PST by dan on the right
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To: markomalley

Delightful. Now our massively INCREASED premiums will go to take care of millions of druggies and addicts who have on interest in being cured, just having their symptoms alleviated - SOMETIMES.


89 posted on 11/08/2013 12:35:53 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: livius

Drugs have improved things a lot since the 1970s, but many of the drugs by themselves are less than optimum (some of the uninstitutionalized psychotic killers were actually taking drugs) and there needs to be much more research in this area. Gene therapy may also be a possibility someday.

But in the meantime, we need programs like the ones you have described. However, I don’t think that’s what Obamacare is aiming at.
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In the business the old drugs of the sixties and seventies are taking off again in popularity. Haldol, Thorazine, Stelazine, Clozaril, Lithium, Valium, Ativan, Librium.


90 posted on 11/08/2013 12:36:11 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: markomalley

Do ya think maybe this was added because of so many mentally deranged liberals?


91 posted on 11/08/2013 12:37:01 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: markomalley

One more point: If you’re mentally ill, how would you be capable of buying any insurance?


92 posted on 11/08/2013 12:39:15 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: markomalley
"the largest behavioral health expansion in a generation."

That should lower health care costs. /s

93 posted on 11/08/2013 12:39:28 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Chickensoup

If nothing else, a lot of those drugs had predictable side effects. They generally zonked people out, whereas some of the new ones seem to make them even angrier and more difficult to control.


94 posted on 11/08/2013 12:40:57 PM PST by livius
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Opposed to homosexual “marriage?” Get sent to a mental institution. Lose your rights and freedom.

You're in the ballpark. When they cast resistance to the advancement of the homosexual/islamic/illegal immigration agenda as __phobic, there is, in plain view, a hidden purpose. We know phobics are mentally ill, so their opinions are to be marginalized and dismissed due to such mental disease, and above all they need psychiatric intervention. And now thanks be to the benevolent ones they will get it in spades.

95 posted on 11/08/2013 12:49:36 PM PST by Dysart (Obamacare: "We are losing money on every subscriber-- but we will make it up in volume!")
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To: markomalley

health insurance companies already have provisions for mental health services 16 counseling sessions per year, no maximum for medications as prescribed by a physician. Okay I know this for certain as I have been in the counseling field. Or are they trying to do the most serious disorders are medicaid reimbursement.

I strongly believe they are pushing the medicaid standards. This will bankrupt states - the counseling provide at state recognized services is a fleecing of America. state recognized counselors receive salaries of 55,000 and up. private counseling services 26.00 is all they agree to pay at medicaid level. the same goes for podiatry services and dental services covered by medicaid. podiatry has medicare too, but the fee acceptable is 36.00 and the copayment from medicaid


96 posted on 11/08/2013 12:54:50 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: hondact200

i closed the doors of the counseling center I operated as I was going broke. I do counseling yet through another agency, but I do not make a whole lot there too. So sick of the lazy people whom scream that they have problems making for a disability. stupid and lazy are not a disability


97 posted on 11/08/2013 1:02:46 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: All

so, in essence, another rate hike..


98 posted on 11/08/2013 1:02:58 PM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: markomalley

When I was working in SW Virginia a few years ago, there was an 8 month wait for a new patient on Medicaid to see a shrink. This should be interesting to watch.


99 posted on 11/08/2013 1:15:35 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: markomalley

Most if not all insurers covers mental health treatment.

The govt is telling a business what products it must offer... Marxism.


100 posted on 11/08/2013 1:23:09 PM PST by RginTN
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