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Sisi to Egyptian Islamists: surrender or die
meforum ^ | 26OCT13 | Jonathan Spyer

Posted on 11/03/2013 2:24:20 PM PST by bayouranger

A suicide bombing this week at Egyptian Military Intelligence headquarters in the city of Ismailiya has been claimed by Ansar Beit al Maqdis. This organization is a Salafi Jihadi group with links to organizations of a similar kind in the Gaza Strip. Eleven people, including six soldiers were wounded in the bombing.

The Ismailiya attack is the latest episode in a growing Islamist insurgency against the de facto rule of General Abd al Fatah al-Sisi and the military in Egypt. It was of particular significance because the city lies just west of the Suez Canal, outside of the Sinai Peninsula. In the poorly policed area of northern Sinai, jihadi groups have been active since the military coup of July 3, and even before it.

But the Ismailiya bombing represents only the second time that Ansar Beit al Maqdis has managed to strike west of the canal. This attack may well be a sign of things to come.

Yet while the growing violence in Egypt undoubtedly constitutes a security headache for the Egyptian regime, it contains no political threat to General Sisi and those around him.

Salafi terrorists are not going to take power in Egypt. They are an irritant, but the political result of their activities is likely to be growing support for Sisi, and calls for harsher measures mirroring Hosni Mubarak's crackdown on similar groups in the 1990s.

A crackdown would have wide public support. The ongoing activities of the jihadis, meanwhile, at least as long as they do not exceed a certain volume, provide a useful backdrop to the continued presence of the army at the center of public life in Egypt.

The growing pitch of Islamist violence is an indication of the vanishing options that Sisi has left available to the Islamists.

Since the July 3 coup, he has deliberately sought to exclude the Islamists from political life in every possible way, thus leaving them only the options of effective marginalization or a turn to force.

Shortly after the coup, the Muslim Brotherhood was declared an illegal organization and its assets seized. Leaders of the movement, including incumbent President Mohammed Morsy, were arrested. On August 14th, the army engaged in a bloody crackdown on the movement's sit-in at the Rabia Mosque in Cairo.

Subsequent months have seen a series of stormy and violent demonstrations by the Brotherhood, demanding the release of their leaders and the dropping of all charges against them, and that the group be permitted to return to political activity.

The latest of these took place on October 6th, the day on which Egyptians mark the 'victory' of the 1973 October War. Supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood sought to make their way to Tahrir Square, while protesting the detention of Morsy and calling al-Sisi a 'murderer.'

The response of the security forces was harsh and uncompromising. Around 50 people were killed in the subsequent clashes. Scores were wounded, 200 members of the Muslim Brotherhood were detained.

Along with the uncompromising response on the streets, the military government has sought to directly link the stormy Brotherhood demonstrations in the cities with the insurgency erupting in Sinai.

Thus, a statement released to the press by Interior Minister General Mohammed Ibrahim after the Ismailiya attacks asserted that "The Muslim Brotherhood has a new source of funding, as is indicated by the attack on Monday morning against South Sinai Security Directorate using a booby-trapped vehicle driven by a suicide bomber."

By turning to force, Egypt's Islamists would be 'playing' the security forces on the latters' home turf, with no hope of victory. But political activity is also closed to them.

In current discussions over amending the Egyptian constitution, meanwhile, it appears that an amendment to article 54, which deals with the foundation of political parties, is set to be approved. The amendment will prohibit the creation of political parties on a religious basis, or political activity based on religion.

Even the Salafi al-Nour party, which is largely cooperating with the military controlled government, initially objected to this (though it now appears to have recanted.)

Other Islamist groups are struggling to come up with a response. The Gamaa al-Islamiya movement, a formerly terrorist group which entered politics after the toppling of Mubarak, expressed the Islamists' dilemma in the clearest way.

Speaking to al-Ahram newspaper, one of its leaders said that after Mubarak's fall, they had 'became engaged in the political process. We made some mistakes, of course. Such is the nature of the political game. But now society wants to ban us. How are we supposed to persuade our youth not to engage in politics and not to turn to violence again?"

The answer, from the point of the view of the present Egyptian authorities, is something like 'that's your problem.' General Sisi's approach may appear unfamiliar to contemporary western observers because he is not seeking to hold the Islamists to a stalemate and then seek an accommodation. Rather, his goal appears to be strategic victory in his battle with the Muslim Brotherhood and the smaller Islamist factions. To this end, he is offering them two alternatives: accept political oblivion – or choose to resist it, and be destroyed by the army.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Egypt; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abdelfattahalsisi; alsisi; egypt; egyptmb; filthykoranimals; jihad; muslimbrotherhood; shootthemall; waronterror
Personally, he's offering 1 too many choices.
1 posted on 11/03/2013 2:24:20 PM PST by bayouranger
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To: bayouranger

Finally, a new Crusade against Jihad.


2 posted on 11/03/2013 2:26:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Something about that Sisi I like.


3 posted on 11/03/2013 2:31:36 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (“Liberty for the wolves is death for the lambs.” - Isaiah Berlin)
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To: Paladin2

Where do I send the cargo of wheelbarrows for those Egyptian men with those big balls that ours in charge don’t have?


4 posted on 11/03/2013 2:33:20 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: bayouranger

For a guy named “Sissy”, he sure isn’t messing around.

It’s sort of like life toughed the boy named “Sue”.


5 posted on 11/03/2013 2:35:09 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Paladin2

BUmp!


6 posted on 11/03/2013 2:38:14 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Paladin2

Mubarak allowed extremists to use the media to incite Moslems to be jihadis. The Egyptian government should forbid all violent speach as this is incitement to war and persecution of religious minorities. Mubarak did not go far enough in dealing with the Muslim Brotherhood.


7 posted on 11/03/2013 2:43:54 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt’s Generals:
‘How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?’
Foreign Policy | 15 Aug 2013 | John Hudson
Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055253/posts

Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt’s military — even as Cairo’s security forces massacre anti-government activists.

[by “anti-government activists” is meant church-burning jihadists]


8 posted on 11/03/2013 3:12:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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Here's the passage at issue:
In the 1980s, the war caucus in Congress armed bin Laden and the mujaheddin in their fight with the Soviet Union. In fact, it was the official position of the State Department to support radical jihad against the Soviets. We all know how well that worked out.
Let's leave aside for now the insulting, utterly asinine, sickening, inexcusable use of the phrase "war caucus" to describe those (including Reagan!) who supported the mujaheddin against the Soviets. That word choice alone is almost entirely disqualifying for its purveyor to ever be president.

Instead, let's just look at a little history here -- because the ignorance evident in this paragraph is truly astonishing. One would be hard pressed to find even a single historian, whether right, left, or center, who would argue anything other than that the Soviet failure in Afghanistan was not just a huge factor, but probably an essential one, in the Soviets' ultimate loss of the Cold War.
[Rand Paul’s Really Ignorant Paragraph | 7 Feb 2013]

9 posted on 11/03/2013 3:13:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks bayouranger. Whatever you do Sisi, don’t trade these for the box Jay is bringing down the aisle, it’s probably a box bomb.


10 posted on 11/03/2013 3:14:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: cradle of freedom
"Mubarak did not go far enough in dealing with the Muslim Brotherhood."

Nor does 0bama.

11 posted on 11/03/2013 3:16:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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"General Sisi's approach may appear unfamiliar to contemporary western observers because he is not seeking to hold the Islamists to a stalemate and then seek an accommodation. Rather, his goal appears to be strategic victory in his battle with the Muslim Brotherhood and the smaller Islamist factions. To this end, he is offering them two alternatives: accept political oblivion -- or choose to resist it, and be destroyed by the army."

Wherever it was in Pennsylvania that Sisi was educated, I plan to remember them in my will. :')


12 posted on 11/03/2013 3:18:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Something...I like"

si si!

13 posted on 11/03/2013 3:43:36 PM PST by driftless2
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To: Paladin2

Sisi, don’t forget the one in the White Hut.


14 posted on 11/03/2013 4:35:46 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: bayouranger

Best post. and I haven’t even scrolled through the rest, yet.


15 posted on 11/03/2013 4:58:26 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: cradle of freedom

“...Mubarak did not go far enough ...”

Egypt was receiving an obscene amount of dollars and he had to thread the needle with American human rights politicians to keep it coming- like Kerry.


16 posted on 11/03/2013 5:28:17 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: bayouranger

Did Lurch deliver 0bama’s cheque to the Egyptian Government?
Will Morsi’s trial suppress all Treason and Criminal actions by 0bama?


17 posted on 11/04/2013 4:19:04 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: bayouranger

Those options should be offered to someone we know. He resides in DC and has two daughters at Friends


18 posted on 11/04/2013 4:23:40 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: bayouranger

3/4 through the article it says: the muslim bros have a NEW SOURCE OF FUNDING as indicated by the attack on Monday.....
The saudis? The cia?


19 posted on 11/04/2013 4:35:14 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: Palio di Siena

The Saudis support the Egyptian military publicly and privately.


20 posted on 11/04/2013 5:56:20 AM PST by conejo99
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