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Obamacare A Mess? Liberals Say Go Single Payer.
Forbes ^ | 10/28/13

Posted on 10/29/2013 11:44:52 PM PDT by Kimberly GG

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To: Kimberly GG

These leftists actually believe the voters will trust them with single payer after epically failing with obamacare and wasting billions???!!!


41 posted on 10/30/2013 2:00:59 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: wastoute

“Anyone that is a libturd at this point IS a complete idiot. Don’t be fooled by idiots.”

There are three types;

“Leftist” who know it is total revolution/destruction of our system that they seek. I believe Obama falls under this category. The total ideologue.

“Liberal” which would include those who like the soft squishy European style of socialism that appeals to the lazy and disillusioned. Truth and facts are inconvenient, but ignorable.

“Useful idiot” as Lenin called them, which have been coined “low information voter”. Sound bites, catchy phrases, and political gotcha moments, along with peer pressure are very effective with this group. They really have no idea.

We have our work cut out for us in dealing with this.


42 posted on 10/30/2013 2:22:11 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Maurice Tift

Your answer is yes. Single payer allows for healthcare rationing. Aimed directly at aging Baby Boomers and the physically handicapped of all ages to decrease the surplus population


43 posted on 10/30/2013 2:29:47 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Kimberly GG

And who will pay for so-called single payer? Not the half of the nation already on the dole.


44 posted on 10/30/2013 2:43:14 AM PDT by relictele ("An elective despotism was not the government we fought for..." - James Madison)
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To: relictele
The only way this goes away is a veto proof majority in the Senate, not going to happen. Or Repubs will have to have all three branches of the Gov. I'm not sure will that will happen either.

The Rats are signing up millions into Medicaid never to taken away.

45 posted on 10/30/2013 3:13:37 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Kickass Conservative

Medicaid is just Medicare for people under 65.
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Medicaid is a 100% paid, no premium, no deductible, no co-pay covers medical, dental, eye care govt paid plan.
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Medicare is a monthly premium, annual deductible, 20% co-pay, no dental or eye care for an aging population that spends more on failing eyes and teeth than youngsters. Plus Medicare enrollees when working paid Medicare withholding taxes.
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There is no comparison between the 2 other than they are govt administrated. Medicare is hardly a freebie.


46 posted on 10/30/2013 3:58:44 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: redcatcherb412
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Medicaid is a 100% paid, no premium, no deductible, no co-pay covers medical, dental, eye care govt paid plan.

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Our state Medicaid plan does not permit you to own more than about 2000 in assets, which is a large deductible, will take your house, has two and five dollar copays.

This is the Medicaid plan that Hussian is wanting people to fall into, the one that takes assets.

47 posted on 10/30/2013 4:09:12 AM PDT by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Deagle
Nothing matter about why - it is about who and that is the stupid folks that continue to vote Democrat!

The Demonrats have an unlimited supply of ignorance and greed working for them. That advantage is nigh-impossible to overcome.

48 posted on 10/30/2013 4:18:43 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Wanderer99

Touché!


49 posted on 10/30/2013 4:24:34 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Kimberly GG

ABSOLUTELY. The problem is that it is failing so fast they can’t blame the private health care sector. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS TAKING THE HIT. The government cannot manage one-sixth of the American economy. The government can’t be the solution if government is perceived as the problem. The RATS broke it—they own it.

ONLY RINOS CAN SCREW THIS UP!!!!!


50 posted on 10/30/2013 4:32:46 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Kimberly GG

State secession will kill the single payer.

All it takes is just one state.


51 posted on 10/30/2013 4:35:05 AM PDT by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors. Asymmetrical Warfare.)
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To: Kimberly GG
Look, the concept is to force us into Single Payer (read: Government Owned) health care.

But there is a problem.

The Democrats gave us this Obamacare fustercluck.

WHO THE HELL -- EVEN AMONG LIBERALS -- WOULD TRUST THE DEMOCRATS TO ENACT AN EVEN *BIGGER* SYSTEM??!??!?

52 posted on 10/30/2013 4:40:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Absolutely. All according to the plan.


53 posted on 10/30/2013 4:42:24 AM PDT by Baldwin77
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To: Wildbill22
Worth repeating again...and again....and again.

There are three types:
“Leftist” who know it is total revolution/destruction of our system that they seek. I believe Obama falls under this category. The total ideologue.

“Liberal” which would include those who like the soft squishy European style of socialism that appeals to the lazy and disillusioned. Truth and facts are inconvenient, but ignorable.

“Useful idiot” as Lenin called them, which have been coined “low information voter”. Sound bites, catchy phrases, and political gotcha moments, along with peer pressure are very effective with this group. They really have no idea.

54 posted on 10/30/2013 4:48:05 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Kimberly GG

IF Medicaid replaced ALL insurance, then all the current health insurance company employees will become FedGov™ employees. Assuming it will take the same amount of people to administer the services this will even add to the pool of Democrats...


55 posted on 10/30/2013 5:00:07 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kimberly GG

They may have set up Obamacare for the illegals who would benefit from the single payer system down the road.


56 posted on 10/30/2013 5:31:18 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Kimberly GG

“DON’T BE FOOLED ... OBAMACARE WAS DESIGNED TO FAIL. SINGLE PAYER IS WHAT THEY WANTED ALL ALONG.”


Exactly! The media pulled the typical Saul Alinsky tactic of ridicule on the likes of Glenn Beck, FOX news and anyone else who said the end game was single payer EVEN THOUGH the dark lord said in his own forked snake tongue that he wanted single payer.

If the remaining supporters and admirers of the Founders don’t act NOW, then there is nothing which can be done and nobody who can save this country.

Our media today is no different than the old Pravda for the USSR. They are carrying the Progressive message all while ignoring that the CPUSA and DSA have not even hidden the fact they are using the Progressive label to cover up their Marxist/Communist beliefs.

We also have decades of youth brainwashed by our government schools who are not questioning the central planners and the liberal mafia in the MSM.


57 posted on 10/30/2013 6:50:07 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: redcatcherb412

My point was simply that Medicaid is a back door to Single Payer, and Medicare is always used by the Left as a shining example of how Single Payer would work. I seem to recall some Rat saying that Medicare should be expanded to include all ages when the Healthcare “debate” was raging.

I wasn’t talking about Medicare being a gimme since it is funded by Medicare Taxes.

Anyone remember when John Edwards got caught using a scheme to avoid paying his “fair share” of Medicare Taxes?


58 posted on 10/30/2013 9:04:21 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Good news, Federal Funding for my Tagline has been restored. Crisis averted.)
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To: AlexW; JennysCool

Yep. Considering all those communist types from the 60s/70s are grown up now with grown kids and grandkids of their own along with the influx of illegals, we’ve been outnumbered.

I do not, for the life of me, however - see how they can view single-payer as a viable option. It just *sounds* good to them, that’s all I can figure.

I would like to think any immigrants (legal or not) would have come to this country to leave the hell-hole govt control they were used to. Out of the pan and into the fire, I suppose.


59 posted on 10/30/2013 9:15:59 AM PDT by babyfreep
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