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To: Sherman Logan

“They consider anyone working for our intelligence agencies to by definition be criminals. I believe most conservatives would disagree.”

I am conservative, and I strenuously, but respectfully, disagree with your statement. It is not that I believe that intelligence agencies or officers are inherently evil, it is that the Federal government itself is, on balance, an evil organization. And at this point, if you work for the Federal government in such a capacity that further the primary goals of this Federal government, that is in its current form, yes, you are working for evil.

That’s not to say that if you work for the post office, you are working for evil anymore than a postal worker working for the Nazi government. I’m referring to those that work to actually increase the power and execute the immoral, unethical, and unconstitutional actions of the evil organization.

Sad to say, but now, the good people in this Federal government are ones working against the Federal government, and thankfully, there still are some brave souls willing to tell the truth no matter what the cost.
The battle is not overseas, the central battle is not even against Muslim extremists (the US gives arms to Al Queda in Libya and Syria), the battle is here in the homeland (I hate that Nazi term); there is a ‘cold war’ between those Americans that love liberty and those running the Federal government that seek to enslave Americans.

The question you must ask yourself is are you with the Federal government in its current form or are you against it? This is a time for choosing, we have crossed the Rubicon and the die is cast. This is not a time for tinkering around the edges, and unfortunately you can’t have it both ways anymore.


30 posted on 10/27/2013 8:01:29 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: grumpygresh
That's fine and dandy.

So if an American, or someone working for America, has infiltrated the inner circle of alQuaeda and is just about to discover the whereabouts of a nuke being smuggled into the homeland in order to take out NYC, you'd out him and ensure his death by torture and the loss of a major US city because you disagree politically with the current administration

Good for you! I hope those who die and their survivors will appreciate your pov.

I’m referring to those that work to actually increase the power and execute the immoral, unethical, and unconstitutional actions of the evil organization.

And exactly how do you intend to separate the millions of Americans working for the government into these groups?

I strongly disagree with the present government, but I don't think we're (yet) to the point where patriotism requires betrayal of the country, as opposed to the government.

IMO, patriotic Germans during WWII could indeed logically have reached that conclusion. But we ain't there yet. If you think we are, you really ought to be organizing for guerrilla warfare. And possibly you are.

But IMO ratting out those who in good (or for that matter bad) faith come to our defense in the war against Islam and our other enemies because you disagree with those they report to is pretty despicable

31 posted on 10/27/2013 8:09:08 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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