Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

'We've reached the end of antibiotics': Top CDC expert declares
The Daily Mail ^ | 26 October 2013 | SNEJANA FARBEROV

Posted on 10/26/2013 10:13:54 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120121-134 last
To: DoughtyOne

The point was that that over prescribing either one can have unintended consequences. In response in 110 you sumbit that the point is irreleveant because they don’t have exactly the same consequences. There’s no expanation as to why the consequences must be exactly the same, just the declaration that because they aren’t, that’s enough.


121 posted on 10/27/2013 1:30:22 PM PDT by tacticalogic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 120 | View Replies]

To: tacticalogic

It’s fun to watch you flail around, so thanks for another entertaining bombastic response. I can explain it to you, but it takes a person with at least some mental faculties to grasp what I am explaining to you.

You may wish to continue to dismiss it as you have, but controled substances are prescribed with a lot more factors involved, than a simple prescription medication.

Physicians have to jump through hoops, involving their compliance and physical records keeping. There is oversight. It’s different.

Your response to my mentioning this to you, is to reference it as my ‘just saying so’.

How old are you, 12?

Physicians do have a different mindset when it comes to narcotics. Making a comparison of their willingness to prescribe either, just doesn’t make sense.

Yes, if a person takes a barrel full of an OTC item, it will cause harm. And this was one of your benchmarks for why a physician shouldn’t see any difference between prescribing Class II meds or an antibiotic. It’s just laughable. Dismiss it as my just saying so, but you’re the one coming off looking like a nut-job who won’t stick to logic and reason.

I have also mentioned that pediatricians are not the major prescribers of narcotics. This flew right over your head despite the discussion being related to pediatric related antibiotics, and another poster trying to equate physicians being able to refuse narcotics, but not refuse antibiotics. And for this to have relevancy, it gains merit if were talking about the same physician. We’re not.

On a number of levels, this example failed the test.

Not the same type of med
Not the same level of lethality
Not the same prescribing physician base
Not the same regulatory impact

These are valid points, that you have sought to reduce to the idea I was more or less claiming it was true without reason, just because I said so.

FAIL.


122 posted on 10/27/2013 2:05:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (People will retain the power to control the Government, or it will retain the power to control them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 121 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne
You may wish to continue to dismiss it as you have, but controled substances are prescribed with a lot more factors involved, than a simple prescription medication.

Duh. That's why they're called "controlled". The doctor's behaviour is more a product of the controls than the actual properties of the drugs.

123 posted on 10/27/2013 2:17:30 PM PDT by tacticalogic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 122 | View Replies]

To: tacticalogic

So on some level, you are actually able to comprehend part of what we are discussing. Surprising...

One item is a Controlled substance. One is not.

Yes, the doctor’s behavior is partially as a result of the controls. Exactly.

Therefore a comparison for the sake of saying if a physician can so no to one item, why not the other? There are factors on one item there isn’t for the other. NOT A GOOD COMPARISON

Steroids, asthma medications, there are other good examples. Narcotics isn’t one of them.


124 posted on 10/27/2013 2:37:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (People will retain the power to control the Government, or it will retain the power to control them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 123 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

It’s all about addiction, isn’t it?


125 posted on 10/27/2013 2:41:20 PM PDT by tacticalogic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 124 | View Replies]

To: tacticalogic

It’s about a valid vs non-valid comparison, isn’t it?


126 posted on 10/27/2013 2:43:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (People will retain the power to control the Government, or it will retain the power to control them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 125 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne
It’s about a valid vs non-valid comparison, isn’t it?

It is. The quesion is why the potential negative effects of over prescribing narcotics is elevated to a status of being the only ones worth considering.

127 posted on 10/27/2013 2:51:27 PM PDT by tacticalogic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 126 | View Replies]

To: tacticalogic

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3083953/posts?page=122#122


128 posted on 10/27/2013 2:52:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (People will retain the power to control the Government, or it will retain the power to control them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 127 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

Sometimes what people won’t say tells you more than what they will.


129 posted on 10/27/2013 2:57:58 PM PDT by tacticalogic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 128 | View Replies]

To: tacticalogic

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3083953/posts?page=126#126


130 posted on 10/27/2013 3:00:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (People will retain the power to control the Government, or it will retain the power to control them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 129 | View Replies]

To: tacticalogic
It’s about a valid vs non-valid comparison, isn’t it?

It is. The question is why the potential negative effects of over prescribing narcotics is elevated to a status of being the only ones worth considering.

In a contemporary setting, we have to address the ball field as it is. We may not like the bases being 90' apart, but they are 90' apart. So complaining because a guy was thrown out by 30', is silly. Until the rules change, he can't be safe having only gone 60'.

That's essentially what your argument is here. Until the FDA changes the laws, we have to address reality as it is.

What my advocacy is related to FDA rules, isn't germane to this discussion. The rules simply are. That's it.

131 posted on 10/27/2013 3:06:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (People will retain the power to control the Government, or it will retain the power to control them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 127 | View Replies]

To: Marie
Blaming nagging moms alone is shortsighted and unfair.

Agree. If antibiotics are being prescribed inappropriately, the responsibility is on the shoulders of the medical profession.

It's that simple.

132 posted on 10/28/2013 2:34:55 AM PDT by Ken H (First rule of gun safety - have a gun)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

I gather from your posts that you have specialized knowledge in the medical field. If so, and if it’s not too personal, what is your area of expertise?


133 posted on 10/28/2013 2:39:32 AM PDT by Ken H (First rule of gun safety - have a gun)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 131 | View Replies]

To: Ken H

Let’s say I’m a dog catcher Ken.

It wouldn’t make the things I stated any less relevant or accurate. But then if you have expertise in the field you already know that.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3083953/posts?page=122#122


134 posted on 10/28/2013 6:03:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (People will retain the power to control the Government, or it will retain the power to control them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 133 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120121-134 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson