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Obamacare Tech Firm Tried, Failed to Build Gun Registry in Canada
Breitbart News ^ | 22 Oct 2013 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 10/22/2013 8:26:42 AM PDT by george76

CGI, the Canadian company whose U.S. subsidiary built the failed Obamacare website, was once contracted to build a federal gun registry for the Canadian government...

CGI's contract was canceled in 2007 after a report by the Auditor General found that the Canadian Firearms Information System (CFIS) being built by CGI was "significantly over budget" and that it had been plagued by delays.

The Conservative government that took power in 2006 canceled CGI's gun registry contract, and eventually repealed the Canadian gun registry entirely.

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The failed gun registry was only one of CGI's many Canadian failures, which included canceled contracts to build health care databases in the provinces of Ontario and New Brunswick. Despite CGI's checkered record, the Obama administration awarded its U.S. subsidiary, CGI Federal, the $93.7 million contract to build healthcare.gov, part of $678 million in health care services contracts awarded to the company.

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The U.S. does not have a gun registry, but one would be required, according to Breitbart News' AWR Hawkins, to implement the universal background checks that Democrats and the Obama administration tried to push through Congress earlier this year.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; canada; cgi; cgifederal; guncontrol; gunregistry; india; obamacare; obamacaresoftware; outsourcing; secondamendment
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1 posted on 10/22/2013 8:26:42 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76
Obama is not even using an American company to build the ACA website? What an effing joke!

So not only does the website not work...but building it didn't even positively affect the U.S. economy?

2 posted on 10/22/2013 8:29:55 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: george76
On a more positive note, the gGun Registry so was so screwed up and unworkable that after spending one billion Canadian dollars on the thing without it ever working, the Canadian Government scrapped the whole registry.

There is hope for us yet.

3 posted on 10/22/2013 8:30:05 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: george76

I believe they spent something close to 10 years trying to build that gun registry, which at no time worked properly.


4 posted on 10/22/2013 8:30:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rdcbn

Actually, I think quite the reverse. If the Federal Government ever tries to implement a similar comprehensive data base and fails in that, they will unilaterally demand that the only alternative action is to confiscate the weapons they deem problematic.


5 posted on 10/22/2013 8:32:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: george76

This company does not seem to have ever gotten anything right, with multiple major failures...

How the hell did Obama decide to hire them? On what basis?


6 posted on 10/22/2013 8:34:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Here in the US, beyond depending on owners voluntarily complying with demands to provide input and comply with whatever law, the only recourse would be to have the ATF confiscate all the ATF Forms 4473 which currently is against Federal law for the government to have and hold.

I for one would never comply with an order to ‘register’ any weapon I might own. I’ll secrete, disperse and distribute before I do that.


7 posted on 10/22/2013 8:35:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: george76
The U.S. does not have a gun registry, but one would be required, according to Breitbart News' AWR Hawkins, to implement the universal background checks that Democrats and the Obama administration tried to push through Congress earlier this year.

I can see a computer system where everything is recorded about every American.
All your tax records, medical records, personal history such as which organizations you belong to, how many guns you own, your history of vehicle ownership, locations of every home you have ever had, who your relatives are, who your friends and neighbors are and where they live, where you were educated, religious preferences, how much money you have and how you spend it.

IT will be fairly simple to cross reference any record to isolate a particular segment of society.

8 posted on 10/22/2013 8:37:32 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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To: george76

I have been involved with two companies building software for the government. One was a pure private company, and it ended up building a system everyone said couldn’t be built. Not for free, though.

Then the system was to have a second iteration, and more government top down control. It very quickly turned out to be a pure fraud, that is, the responsible parties sucked the money (170 million or so) straight out of the till keeping a few programmers going through motions on something everyone knew would never finish.


9 posted on 10/22/2013 8:37:58 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: RoosterRedux

Heard on one of the talk shows yesterday that they were bundlers for Obama.
Can you say Solyndra?


10 posted on 10/22/2013 8:38:48 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (I am a Catholic Tea Party Extremist!!!!!)
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To: george76

404 error for your 338 Laberdoodle.


11 posted on 10/22/2013 8:39:14 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: george76
Me, google and wikipedia figured this out 2 weeks ago. check my posting history. Not trying to show off, just trying to say the info has been out there for awhile. I wonder, however if conservative news sources search web sites like FR for leads?

CC

12 posted on 10/22/2013 8:43:11 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: rdcbn

LOL, Be careful of the element of surprise here by Obama....he starts out with a healtcare .Gov website and a gun registry website accidentally opens up and they change their direction to confiscation....


13 posted on 10/22/2013 8:44:26 AM PDT by oust the louse (The Democratic Party might as well be called the Death Party. Abortion & ObamaCare/death panels.)
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To: george76
The Conservative government that took power in 2015 canceled CGI's gun registry Obamacare contract, and eventually repealed the Canadian gun registry Obamacare entirely.

Thank you CGI for your fine work.

14 posted on 10/22/2013 8:50:20 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: george76

Of course Obama picked CGI.

They’re in Canada and the House can’t subpoena them.


15 posted on 10/22/2013 8:57:02 AM PDT by struggle
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To: Gaffer

When the government decides to, they’ll go to the gun shops, confiscate all of the 4473’s, and proceed to go door to door confiscating any and all weapons that they find. Why do you think the feds require that dealers keep those records? Easy local access to conquering forces, that’s why.

As a disclaimer, according to official government records, I have never owned or purchased a firearm of any kind. Just look for any 4473 with my name on it. And they will.


16 posted on 10/22/2013 9:19:56 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: struggle
Now THAT THERE is a very believable and likely reason.....kudos.
17 posted on 10/22/2013 9:23:08 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: factoryrat

There is, in fact, a federal law that makes it illegal to confiscate the 4473s.....they would have to disregard that law.


18 posted on 10/22/2013 9:24:08 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: oust the louse

Yep, anyone who has answered in the affirmative, a doctor who has asked if they own.


19 posted on 10/22/2013 9:42:15 AM PDT by floralamiss
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To: oldbrowser

A good chunk of this already exists, particularly if it is considered information available under the FOIA. Went on-line to see what was out there under my name and found all my addresses since 1960, every place I had ever worked, information on my marriage, divorce, children’s names and dates of birth, picture of my current vehicle with insurance information and mileage. For a few more dollars I could also have checked to see if I had had any recorded arrests or convictions. There were also some early 1940 census reports which had the name, addresses and social security numbers of my bio father, grandparents, aunts and uncles.


20 posted on 10/22/2013 9:45:17 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: george76; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
Seems that Obama has a knack for stealing ideas that have been tried, failed and abandoned here.

To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

21 posted on 10/22/2013 9:49:33 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: struggle

bttt


22 posted on 10/22/2013 9:52:58 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: george76

Was it intended to work?


23 posted on 10/22/2013 9:57:07 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: RoosterRedux

Yes...kinda sad Obama couldn’t use an American company to run ObamaCare...

But Obama is also a big Free Trade Communist....so finding an American company to process ObamaCare is not on his list...


24 posted on 10/22/2013 9:59:10 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: Gaffer
>>they will unilaterally demand that the only alternative action is to confiscate the weapons they deem problematic.<<

and that's when the shootin starts.

After Westgate, Interpol Chief Ponders "Armed Citizenry"

25 posted on 10/22/2013 10:05:50 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: RoosterRedux

A Canadian company built his big black campaign bus. I think it cost several million.


26 posted on 10/22/2013 10:09:21 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: rdcbn

CGI was also in on the eHealth Ontario fiasco

http://www.itworldcanada.com/article/ehealth-ontario-pulls-diabetes-registry-contract/46580

obama sure can pick them !


27 posted on 10/22/2013 10:09:26 AM PDT by Reverend Wright (1990 Budget Agreement: learn from other's mistakes)
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To: Reverend Wright
This CGI seems to be pretty good at soaking up massive amounts of government money and successfully distributing it to various sources before defaulting on its contracts without anyone being held accountable or going to jail.
28 posted on 10/22/2013 10:18:43 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: george76

What happens when you delegate the CMS as the primary Contract interface. And now, Berwick is gone. Never checked the company’s records of performance??? Graft, gratuitous, no bid contracts awards to friends and collaborators/donors.


29 posted on 10/22/2013 10:20:24 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: george76

Too bad people are not equally outraged that you cannot shop this Barry obomination without entering all sorts of ID which can be used by all the, should be dismantled, government agencies.

We have seen the abuse of power by the IRS, NSA, EPA, DOJ.... so why on earth would we be willing to hand them everything they need to nudge us off our private property, off our health insurance?

These commies belong in the former Soviet Union as criminals.


30 posted on 10/22/2013 10:25:20 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yup - cost us a fortune. Complete failure, or success, depending on how you look at it.


31 posted on 10/22/2013 10:25:59 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: george76

By the way, Berwick was one of 0bama’s unilateral “recess” appointments. That *#&@#@*# owns all of this.


32 posted on 10/22/2013 10:28:25 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: struggle

It’s the US subsidiary that would get the 3 AM subpoena call. Still plenty of Canuck ballskin to grab here. Issa just needs to find the one who wrote the US checks to the dem party.


33 posted on 10/22/2013 10:34:13 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Gaffer

And then they’ll would wish they hadn’t.


34 posted on 10/22/2013 10:58:55 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Mr. K

My guess it was a reward for being good liberals.


35 posted on 10/22/2013 11:03:14 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Mr. K

Their website oozes with liberalism.


36 posted on 10/22/2013 11:06:12 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: oldbrowser

It’s called Facebook.


37 posted on 10/22/2013 11:06:55 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

I am thinking of starting a website for my consulting firm that is just dripping with liberal ooze and another one where it is all conservative values and see which one generates more business


38 posted on 10/22/2013 11:13:42 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Gaffer
There is, in fact, a federal law that makes it illegal to confiscate the 4473s.....they would have to disregard that law.

These peoople don't care what the law says. That has already been demonstrated time and again.

However, two can play that game.

39 posted on 10/22/2013 11:20:26 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Wurlitzer
These commies belong in the former Soviet Union as criminals.

These commies would have hanged back in the day.

40 posted on 10/22/2013 11:22:13 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: george76

There a saying in business that if you want to be a success, surround yourself with successful people.

It’s painfully obvious that Zero has it wrong on all fronts!


41 posted on 10/22/2013 11:37:04 AM PDT by Amish with an attitude
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To: Amish with an attitude

-——It’s painfully obvious that Zero has it wrong on all fronts!-——

No, he is accomplishing his primary objective. Obama is looting the treasury. All the other stuff is merely facade to cover the pillaging.

At the root, Obama is but a thief.


42 posted on 10/22/2013 11:40:22 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: george76

I would love to be given $600 million to fail at doing something.


43 posted on 10/22/2013 12:41:53 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: george76

2nd Amendment bump for later.......


44 posted on 10/22/2013 1:51:55 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: RoosterRedux

I remember the fiasco of the gun registry in Canada where the original cost estimate was way below the final price tag.


45 posted on 10/22/2013 2:11:21 PM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN)
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To: george76

Here’s my take on obamacare’s website

http://ejsmithweb.com/obamacare


46 posted on 10/22/2013 3:53:51 PM PDT by smith288 (Peace at all costs gives you tyranny free of charge)
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To: george76
If this “TECH SURGE” is a volunteer force, it is ILLEGAL.
47 posted on 10/22/2013 4:36:31 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Dude. I’ll underbid you.


48 posted on 10/22/2013 6:49:33 PM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: RetroSexual

Doesn’t matter, I’ll promise no show jobs to Obama’s cronies and kickbacks to the Rat congressman.


49 posted on 10/22/2013 7:24:59 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Who says they’ve failed?


50 posted on 10/22/2013 7:26:42 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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