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To: rhema
That Moehler would speak at a center of Mormonism says a lot about him. Not good. It smacks of ecumenism at a cost too high to continue claiming a banner of biblical Christianity.

Mormonism should be dead as a force for societal moral good to thinking conservatives and Christians. They sold out the BSA to the sexual reprobates. Salt Lake City passed a "non-discrimination" (Christian oppression) ordinance like the most liberal cities in deep blue areas.

3 posted on 10/21/2013 1:45:24 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Uhm, did you even read his speech? If not, you might want to take the time and do so.

As an ex-mo, married to a mormon, I think he did a pretty good job of interweaving his Christian beliefs within the framework of his speech. Called out some of the more relevant differences between mormonism and Christianity. The trinity, salvation by grace, etc.

But the topic is family...and in that he commends them for their strong belief in the family unit. Something I think all faiths would/should recognize as something of paramount importance in this day and age.


4 posted on 10/21/2013 2:00:46 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: fwdude

did you read the speech?


5 posted on 10/21/2013 2:06:35 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: fwdude

You need to read his speech....he is NOT being ecumenical as you charge. He writes:

“This is what brings me to Brigham Young University today. I am not here because I believe we are going to heaven together. I do not believe that. I believe that salvation comes only to those who believe and trust only in Christ and in his substitutionary atonement for salvation. I believe in justification by faith alone, in Christ alone. I love and respect you as friends, and as friends we would speak only what we believe to be true, especially on matters of eternal significance. We inhabit separate and irreconcilable theological worlds, made clear with respect to the doctrine of the Trinity. And yet here I am, and gladly so. We will speak to one another of what we most sincerely believe to be true, precisely because we love and respect one another.”

“I do not believe that we are going to heaven together, but I do believe we may go to jail together. I do not mean to exaggerate, but we are living in the shadow of a great moral revolution that we commonly believe will have grave and devastating human consequences. Your faith has held high the importance of marriage and family. Your theology requires such an affirmation, and it is lovingly lived out by millions of Mormon families. That is why I and my evangelical brothers and sisters are so glad to have Mormon neighbors. We stand together for the natural family, for natural marriage, for the integrity of sexuality within marriage alone, and for the hope of human flourishing.”

Dr. Mohler is making it clear that because Evangelicals and Mormons stand for a traditional Hetereosexual marriage...and sex inside that....we both risk going to jail.


9 posted on 10/21/2013 4:18:40 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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