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1 posted on 10/16/2013 8:36:23 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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This has been discussed a hundred times. Do your own research.


2 posted on 10/16/2013 8:38:40 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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silly, silly boy - The Constitution means nothing to these people.


3 posted on 10/16/2013 8:38:50 AM PDT by svcw (Socialism is so great, that it will be forced on you.)
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To: ShadowAce

Good question.


4 posted on 10/16/2013 8:39:03 AM PDT by madison10
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the media and Obama have been lying about that not raising the debt limit will result in default

there is NO RISK OF DEFAULT.

keep the gov shut down and do NOT raise the debt ceiling. call R's tell them to hold the line

the media has been lying saying Armageddon will happen Oct 17 if the debt limit is not raised. that is a big lie. the media lied. Obama lied. Reid lied.

we have to call and email Republicans and tell them not to believe the media lies. what is the capital switchboard or their emails or phone numbers?

5 posted on 10/16/2013 8:39:17 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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..if this passes
..this latest so-called “agreement” is flawed from the beginning....the INCOME VERIFICATION will never be enforced as long as ODUNGO AND HOLDER are in charge.....their people will still steal from the taxpayer.
There was an article yesterday that said a newspaper out in CA was telling people to purposely falsify their applications to take advantage of subsidies... nothing will be done.
EX-ACORN people working now for Odungo will see to it....


6 posted on 10/16/2013 8:39:18 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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I don’t know for sure. But I think maybe technically, if the House votes first, then technically they would say that the House originated the bill.

Hopefully someone else who knows how this is legal can educate all of us.


7 posted on 10/16/2013 8:39:30 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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I haven't seen a bill in either chamber, yet. All the talk seems to be the media anticipating what they think may happen.

/johnny

8 posted on 10/16/2013 8:40:59 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Shell bill, filled with the Senate’s language, just like how they rammed Obamacare through.


9 posted on 10/16/2013 8:42:11 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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The GOP has caved...

Senate leaders reached last-minute agreement Wednesday to avert a threatened Treasury default and reopen the government

13 posted on 10/16/2013 8:50:13 AM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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Audio - Mark Levin: What Obama Is Really Doing - Seizing The Power Of The Purse From Congress

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3079689/posts
Video is nearly 2 hours, but Mark talks about this at the beginning of the audio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbiKbDLWKfU


17 posted on 10/16/2013 8:57:29 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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Once again the republicants agree to kick the can down the road for a handful of empty promises.
18 posted on 10/16/2013 9:05:09 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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This is what happens when the House Republicans/conservatives can’t stick together and agree on something. We get the Senate bill which is a total cave. The House could have produced something yesterday that would at least have been better than the Reid/McConnell bill, but it sounds like we have some “all or nothing” holdouts that just have no clue how tactics and strategy work.

In the end, it appears we’ve accomplished nothing but weaken the conservative position and make it harder to pick up seats in 2014.

Good going guys!


19 posted on 10/16/2013 9:05:28 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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Eventually I expect a John Roberts-led SCOTUS to toss the Origination Clause, saying it has become irrelevant now that Senators are directly elected.


20 posted on 10/16/2013 9:54:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Constitution?

Constitution?

We don need no stink'n Constitution!

23 posted on 10/16/2013 10:28:54 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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