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ATF tries to block whistleblowing agent’s ‘Fast and Furious’ book
The Washington Times ^ | 10/13/13 | John Solomon

Posted on 10/06/2013 6:47:04 PM PDT by Nachum

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is blocking the main whistleblower in the Fast and Furious case from publishing a book for pay, claiming his retelling of the Mexico “gun-walking” scandal will hurt morale inside the embattled law enforcement agency, according to documents obtained by The Washington Times.

ATF’s dispute with Special Agent John Dodson is setting up a First Amendment showdown that is poised to bring together liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union and conservatives in Congress who have championed Mr. Dodson’s protection as a whistleblower.

The ACLU is slated to become involved in the case Monday, informing ATF it is representing Mr. Dodson and filing a formal protest to the decision to reject his request to publish the already written book, sources told The Times, speaking only on the condition of anonymity.

The battle also could have repercussions on Capitol Hill, where the two lead investigators who helped uncover the Fast and Furious scandal, Sen. Chuck Grassley, Iowa Republican, and House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell E. Issa, Calif. Republican, had written a foreword to the book, the sources said.

ATF officials declined Sunday night to discuss Mr. Dodson’s specific matter, citing personnel privacy. But the officials said it was possible for an agent to be rejected for publishing a book for pay but get permission to publish it for free. No manuscript for any Fast and Furious book has received approval for unpaid publication, however, the officials said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 10/06/2013 6:47:04 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 10/06/2013 6:47:31 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

The BATFE should just hold a going out of business sale and then call it quits.


3 posted on 10/06/2013 6:48:33 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Nachum
...claiming his retelling of the Mexico “gun-walking” scandal will hurt morale inside the embattled law enforcement agency...

So, it's against the law to "hurt morale"? Are they even trying to claim the book is untruthful?

4 posted on 10/06/2013 6:49:46 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Nachum

Hoo wooda thunk it.


5 posted on 10/06/2013 6:50:52 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: mylife; neverdem; marktwain; LucyT

Ping.


6 posted on 10/06/2013 6:54:02 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Nachum
So how soon will we be sending copies of prohibited books to each other, at the threat of harsh punishment if caught? We know exactly how it's done, because it was done this way in USSR.
7 posted on 10/06/2013 6:54:19 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Greysard

We are close. They do not even claim that anything in the book is false.


8 posted on 10/06/2013 7:00:15 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Nachum

If they can prohibit anything because it might ‘hurt morale’, someone needs to take our boyKing in hand and prohibit him. He is determined to destroy morale in the entire country. I am reminded of the phrase ‘the daily beatings will continue until morale improves’. He seems to relish hurting patriotic Americans.


9 posted on 10/06/2013 7:01:01 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Nachum

Was I naïve, or did we lose it all in less than 20 years?

If I’m gonna’ live out my days in a totalitarian hellhole, I’ll take Cuba over the USSA. Beautiful women, cool cars, warm weather. And the faint hope of freedom.


10 posted on 10/06/2013 7:02:47 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: Nachum
and the truth will put you in prison...
11 posted on 10/06/2013 7:04:03 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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ATF tries to block whistleblowing agent’s ‘Fast and Furious’ book

Thanks, JJ. (Sorry, I don't have the F & F avatar.)

12 posted on 10/06/2013 7:07:20 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Nachum

IBTICBIAWTACLU

(In before the “I can’t believe I agree with the ACLU!” brigade)

We should leave politics to the lefties and try to reform the ACLU. They’re on our side more & more often. We should be allies.


13 posted on 10/06/2013 7:12:34 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: Nachum
Never Forget:


14 posted on 10/06/2013 7:14:48 PM PDT by spokeshave (While Zero plays silly card games like Spades - Putin plays for keeps.)
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To: marktwain

Yep. They’re only bitch is that there widdle feewings may be hurt.


15 posted on 10/06/2013 7:25:01 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

I really wish that conservatives would be able to outgrow the knee-jerk hatred of the ACLU (and probably likewise). Many times, they are on the same side. Find the areas of agreement before looking for the disagreements.

I would like someone to explain how anything - anything - that this particular agency does could be considered “classified”.


16 posted on 10/06/2013 7:46:05 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Nachum

Hurt your morale? FU BATFE. How’s that feel on your morale?


17 posted on 10/06/2013 7:50:06 PM PDT by RC one
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To: jeffc

I believe that this is a preemptive strike against the flood of tell-all books that are no doubt being written for publication in 2017. The Dems are broke and there won’t be enough money to pay everyone off and without being in power, no cushy jobs to pass out. And, the world has room for only so many talking heads.

It is going to be like giving laxatives to a rhinoceros with a bad combination of Monezuma’s revenge AND constipation.


18 posted on 10/06/2013 7:51:49 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Nachum

Ah, it would hurt their MORALE, yes.

I wonder how it feels to have your biz raided for no reason, all your property seized, and your name tarnished..? That’s after they break into your house, smashing everything, pointing guns at your head, and then imprisoning you.

And they do that to your wife and your child, also.

Then they say you’ll get seperate trials and they hold you incommunicado.

Or....I wonder how morale is if they kill your son, and shoot your wife in the head as she holds your baby..? That probably hurts your feelings pretty badly, I’d say. And then they fly over your cabin with a huge fuel bladder, threatening to burn the whole place to a crisp...

Or...maybe they DO burn your place to a crisp, along with almost 100 other people inside, including many kids, eh? Cuz your brand of Christianity sort of weirds them out...

I’d bet that would really, REALLY hurt your morale, right?

This report SOUNDS like a joke, but against all reason they really do take their feelings quite seriously.


19 posted on 10/06/2013 7:55:18 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: originalbuckeye; Nachum; ExTexasRedhead; ml/nj; SunkenCiv; Eleutheria5; LucyT; All
If they can prohibit anything because it might ‘hurt morale’, someone needs to take our boyKing in hand and prohibit him. He is determined to destroy morale in the entire country. I am reminded of the phrase ‘the daily beatings will continue until morale improves’. He seems to relish hurting patriotic Americans.

Excellent post, originalbuckeye. Sadly, this whole story about government attempting to block this ATF's agent book is very much consistent with the policies of this neo-totalitarian administration,

20 posted on 10/06/2013 8:01:40 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Nachum
I'm shocked, truly shocked.

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21 posted on 10/06/2013 8:23:33 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Nachum

“The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is blocking the main whistleblower in the Fast and Furious case from publishing a book for pay, claiming his retelling of the Mexico “gun-walking” scandal will hurt morale inside the embattled law enforcement agency, according to documents obtained by The Washington Times.”

I wonder which furloughed employees are following up on this. Apparently, gagging whistleblowers is an “essential” function of the Obama administration.


22 posted on 10/06/2013 8:33:35 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Forgotten Amendments
They’re on our side more & more often. We should be allies.

It isn't that they moved to the right, it is that everything else has shifted that far left.

23 posted on 10/06/2013 8:45:16 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

I can see your point. If you have to live in a banana republic, you should at least be able to enjoy the bananas.


24 posted on 10/06/2013 8:47:32 PM PDT by csn vinnie
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To: Nachum

Not only does the Constitution not contain any words even vaguely capably of being construed as protecting the citizen from being “offended”, it also does not discuss protecting the “morale” of either agency, agencyperson or just plain citizen.


25 posted on 10/06/2013 8:56:32 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Nachum

We have fully become the Soviet Union. Only a brief time before the Gulags are set up.


26 posted on 10/06/2013 8:57:09 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
Was I naïve, or did we lose it all in less than 20 years?

No, you pretty much nailed it.

27 posted on 10/06/2013 8:58:06 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: RC one
Hurt your morale? FU BATFE. How’s that feel on your morale?

That's Felony Bullying (34 USC 12.3)

28 posted on 10/06/2013 8:59:16 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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29 posted on 10/06/2013 9:06:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: Nachum

Damn that pesky first amendment. Arrange for him to have an accident. Nothing blatant.


30 posted on 10/06/2013 10:20:17 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

No toilet paper. Shortages of salt. And trust me, there aren’t that many beautiful women.


31 posted on 10/06/2013 10:23:20 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: jeffc

It would actually help morale if an investigation rocked the management in that agency. Morale at BATFE is already rock bottom. Who wants to work at a place where your boss is coercing you into committing a crime which your agency is supposed to be stopping. Even after F&F imploded the people running the op got moved, not fired. I bet every smart line agent is keeping book on their supervisors. Not a healthy working environment.


32 posted on 10/06/2013 10:35:20 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Nachum

Article says the ATF first denied on July 17. Then deial upheld internally four days later.

My question is what happened between then and now.


33 posted on 10/07/2013 4:10:22 AM PDT by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: Nachum
"The Most Transparent Administration Ever."
34 posted on 10/07/2013 6:18:33 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Need health care? Dial 1-800-F1UCK-YO to reach Obama's hotline)
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To: The Antiyuppie
"I really wish that conservatives would be able to outgrow the knee-jerk hatred of the ACLU (and probably likewise). Many times, they are on the same side. Find the areas of agreement before looking for the disagreements."

I agree with you on this. My biggest disagreement with them is on the interpretation of the separation of Church and State (which oh by the way isn't even in the first amendment). I think they have that all wrong. However, on other first amendment issues they are usually correct. Including their most hated decision to defend the Neo Nazi's in the Skolki Illinois march. They were correct but I'm glad that a situation was avoided.

One of my biggest beefs is not really with them. It's with media portrayal. The biggest second amendment rights group (NRA) is always portrayed as beholden to special interests, yet they have five million dues paying members. The ACLU is never protrayed that way in the press, but as the upholder of the first amendment. Yet it is made up of perhaps a couple thousand at most dues paying members and they are almost all lawyers.
35 posted on 10/07/2013 6:28:00 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Nachum

So he loses his first amendment for someone’s moral?


36 posted on 10/07/2013 7:17:23 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Expect more Hastings-ides.


37 posted on 10/07/2013 7:36:50 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Nachum

So the primary rationale for prohibiting the book is “morale?” This won’t last.


38 posted on 10/07/2013 8:38:05 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: don-o

The ACLU decided to get involved.


39 posted on 10/07/2013 8:43:44 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

>>We should leave politics to the lefties and try to reform the ACLU. They’re on our side more & more often. We should be allies.

Good to see someone thinkin’ with their head rather than their program. There are a number of issues we have in common with the left- banking, big pharma, safe foods, rational environmentalism, reducing foreign policy adventurism, Internet freedom, safe neighborhoods, better schools and access to higher education, reduction of the power of lobbyists, etc. They are there if you look for them.


40 posted on 10/07/2013 8:51:28 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Cyber Liberty
The ACLU decided to get involved.

Seems odd to me that the author would just let it ride since July.

41 posted on 10/07/2013 8:53:54 AM PDT by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
banking, big pharma, safe foods, rational environmentalism, reducing foreign policy adventurism, Internet freedom, safe neighborhoods, better schools and access to higher education, reduction of the power of lobbyists

At best the Left pay only lip service to most of those.

For instance: they don't want better schools, they want entrenched and secure teacher-unions.

Ask Zimmerman how much the Left care about safe neighborhoods.

Ask the Libyans, the Yemenis and the Syrians how much the Left care about Foreign Policy.

And as for limiting lobbyists - this White House put them all on salary!

42 posted on 10/07/2013 9:21:56 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: don-o

Not very odd to me. When you’re almost universally ignored by the press and 99% of the people in the country have never heard of you, it’s pretty hard to get any traction.


43 posted on 10/07/2013 9:24:44 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Nachum

BTTT!


44 posted on 10/07/2013 10:01:12 AM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: jeffc

I’m pretty sure every court in the country would shield the BATF from getting its feeling hurt. They’d better have more than that to whine about. HEY -—ATF-—just come clean on F&F and the book won’t be a problem for you.


45 posted on 10/07/2013 10:18:45 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: jeffc
Are they even trying to claim the book is untruthful?

Their "reason" for blocking publication pretty much guarantees that the book is truthful. They're obviously afraid of it.

46 posted on 10/07/2013 11:49:25 AM PDT by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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