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Nick Baumann is a senior editor in the Washington, D.C., bureau of Mother Jones
Whether or not the author is leftist, he did portray the appallingly weak status of the UK pretty accurately.
It’s interesting to note that we’re not in the position of the UK with respect of the word -—— yet —— but the Dork is desperately trying to weaken our military in order to make it so.
I personally disrespect and f*rt in the general direction of ANY US military individual that does not loathe, hate, and despise their laughable Cretin-in-Chief.
Can Mr. Baumann explain exactly just how he can legitimately translate and interview with David Dutton in to the giant leap that “most historians have taken a more sympathetic view towards Chamberlian?”
No other ‘historians’ cited, just Dutton. Well then, I guess that makes everything just hunky dory and the collected throngs of people since then who consider Chamberlain an appeaser just plain out flat wrong.
In the same vein, I guess we all just need to take Al Gore’s word for it on Global warming because Slate found a single historian that says we should.
Horseshit.
Wonder how the folks in the UK view this article?
BULLSHIT! YOU ON THE LEFT CAN HAVE YOUR OWN OPINIONS BUT NOT YOUR OWN FACTS!
THe difference between leftism and nazism is that nazism was manipulated by leftism and used its language without really understanding in the end its real meaning.
So, this a$$hole wants to claim Chamberlain was "right" to bow down to Hitler, because Britain's military was underprepared? But, WHO was it that made sure Britain's military was weak? Why, Neville Chamberlain and his lib-tard friends, that's who.
If the West had not stabbed the Czechs in the back at Munich, the Czech army would have given Hitler one heck of a bloody nose, or worse.
And there is a second point to consider. Stalin saw the results of Munich and concluded that the West was too weak to oppose Hitler. And that's one of the reasons Stalin decided to ally with Germany in 1939. That alliance give Hitler the opportunity to start WW II.
Nothing good came out of Munich.
No, Neville Chamberlain was Left. And Left is always wrong.
The fly in the ointment as far as Baumann’s argument goes is that Hitler’s aims were obvious from the time he took over the reins of government. They could have stopped him when he militarized the Rheinland, but they didn’t. Everything he did he had signaled he was going to doing many years before. Only Churchill sounded the alarm. But of course, he was just the crazy, old fool who thought up Gallipoli. Let’s ignore him. Baumann is a disingenuous dope.
Great job, Chamberlain bought an ill prepared Britain a whole eleven months to do the preparation they should have started in in 1933. If William Shirer could see what was coming and Winston Churchill could see the likely future, others should have also.
This article speaks to a justification for our current weak diplomacy.
Whether the UK was prepared for all out war in 1934 is beside the point. Germany wasn’t either, though far more ready than Britain.
But, even so, Chamberlain turned over the Czech’s, an ally, to that bastard Hitler without a whimper. The Czech leaders weren’t even allowed to attend the “conference” with Hitler and Chamberlain where they diced up their nation like a piece of pie, and Hitler got the whole pie.
Whether the British military was ready or not, Chamberlain sold out a friend for the return of nothing - time he got, but Hitler got the very same gift of time as well.
No, Chamberlain was no unsung hero. Had he stood up to Hitler at that particular time, it may have greatly shortened WW2 before Hitler had fully developed his military.
You do the right thing no matter what. You go down swinging. Chamberlain did neither.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *wipes eyes* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
The reasons the Left always has “narrow” options are two.
1: Generally, they want the result that they get, a constriction of freedom, and more control. When this isn’t the case there is the second reason;
2: They are too cowardly to take the steps that are needed to stop the problem.
What a “LOAD OF RUBBISH”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The real story is probably that Germany hadn’t built up enough at that time to really provide JPMorgan, Nat City et. al. the opportunity to really make a killing off another long bloody conflict so Neville had to give them some breathing room to refine their tactics and come up with better material...
Recall, those banking institutions would have been footnotes in history if we hadn’t spent ~250,000 young men on collecting their British and French war loans in the first world war, setting the stage for the second.
/cynicism...
Whatever Neville Chamberlain was, he was no liberal. He was the hero of the Conservative Party, the hero even after Churchill took over as PM, whose aim, futile as it turned out to be, was to direct Hitler into a war with Communism that would destroy both evils.
the left has to rehab chamberlin. mein kamf is a best seller in the arab world these days.
The horror of WW1 was still with Britain. 160,000 women widowed by that war. My two grandfathers had served. One could see men still suffering shell shock. They twitched and shook and tried to hide it. Poor devils still had lung problems from the gas attacks. Amputees a plenty.
The high ranking Nazis were interrogated by the Americans after 1945. I have read some of the transcripts. Obviously they desperately wanted to tell the Americans exactly what they wanted to hear. To this day I will never know the truth. What they said was that Hitler took a bit of a fright after the invasion of Czechoslovakia. If what they said is true, then had Neville Chamberlain had delivered his ultimatum Hitler could have backed down. Chamberlain did not know this- if it was true.
Now for the figures of the British Aircraft strength. The all metal planes were indeed on the drawing boards. The Spitfire and the Hurricane, also the Boulton Paul Defiant. Six were operational. When the ultimatum was given to Herr Hitler in September 1939, the British industry had 1,200 all metal fighter planes in service.
Molders, the German air ace had 187 kills against the WW1 vintage aircraft flown by the Dutch, French and Polish air forces. Plywood and canvas against an all metal aircraft. Even then the British had canvas covered bombers to bomb the Germans. Shot down left and right. They soon got better bombers from overseas of course.
I will take one quick thrust here. During that war, a war of propaganda, we were told one of the reasons for declaring the war was to "save the Jews". We will never know if Germany was willing to negotiate a peace. Rudolph Hess could have shed light on this. He was murdered/ or suicide before his release.
Well anyway I thank Americans for the Lend-Lease and everything. Still grateful from this corner.
—The left is now rehabilitating appeasing Hitler. 0bama would have done it. —
The *actual* left didn’t just appease Hitler, they collaborated with him, until he violated the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, then the course changed, obviously.