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Posted on 09/28/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by don-o

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House Debates Senate-Passed CR; Current Bill Does Not Include Health Care Defunding Provision
1 posted on 09/28/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

http://clashdaily.com/2013/09/adolph-hitler-real-father-universal-health-care/


2 posted on 09/28/2013 7:59:19 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: don-o
Chad Pergram ‏@ChadPergram 49m

Hse now in session for short speeches. But no clear path for today's legislative program to avoid shutdown or if there would be a vote 2day

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Boehner keeping his card hidden? Anyone have info on what's going on? I have a beatlamar! rally in an hour and will not be posting.

3 posted on 09/28/2013 8:00:27 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o
I have a beat-la-mar rally

You've got to get out front on teaching people the folklore of Davy Crockett (including the ballad we sang as kids). There's nothing like ridicule to make a fool drown in his own stupidity.

4 posted on 09/28/2013 8:04:03 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Number 1 talk show host in Nashville declared Friday “Davy Crockett Day” Though it was Corker who insulted Davy, the blowback will be on Lamar! as well.


5 posted on 09/28/2013 8:07:25 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

I got confused by the Tweddle Dee / Tweddle Dumness of our Tenn Senators. It WAS Lamar! who dissed Davy.

Sorry.


6 posted on 09/28/2013 8:11:32 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Our guys are ripping Obama. Keep it up guys.


7 posted on 09/28/2013 8:24:05 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: don-o

Let the cave in begin.............


8 posted on 09/28/2013 8:26:59 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: don-o

From 10/21/2009
Transcript of Pelosi, House Democratic Leaders, and Economists’ Press Conference Following Economic Forum

Speaker Pelosi. I have time for one more question.

Q: Can you give us an update on the health care … [inaudible] … how close were …

Speaker Pelosi. “...And that is what our purpose is, is to improve quality, lower cost, expand coverage, and retain choice for those who like what they have. And in doing so, as the President has said: “Health care reform is entitlement reform and entitlement reform is essential to lowering the deficit.”


9 posted on 09/28/2013 8:27:41 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: don-o

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10 posted on 09/28/2013 8:28:12 AM PDT by Gator113 (The mighty Bear ate the cowardly rat. Obama must resign.)
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To: Gator113

Recess until noon


11 posted on 09/28/2013 8:28:36 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Son House

From 10/21/2009
Transcript of Pelosi, House Democratic Leaders, and Economists’ Press Conference Following Economic Forum

Speaker Pelosi. “...Nearly one year ago, or at the beginning of 2009, we passed the recovery package. What we heard across the board from our economists is that it is very positive, is it working, it has brought the great recession — it is bringing that to an end. The lagging indicator is the job numbers and that is what we want to address.

Secondly, on the 100th day of the President’s term in office, the House and the Senate on the same day, passed the President’s budget. It was a budget that was — the framework was to lower taxes for the middle class, reduce the deficit, create jobs, and grow the economy around three pillars — investments in education, energy and climate change, and health care.

We have passed the climate change legislation in the House, we have passed the education bill under Congressman Miller’s leadership, and now we are soon to pass the health care legislation. All of these are good for the economy, will turn it around, are job creators — in addition to being justified as good policy in themselves.”


12 posted on 09/28/2013 8:38:17 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: Son House

From 10/21/2009
Transcript of Pelosi, House Democratic Leaders, and Economists’ Press Conference Following Economic Forum

Speaker Pelosi. “Mr. Oberstar has left. Mr. Oberstar made a big pitch for that. Mr. Obey was with us for a long time, for the whole time, and he has an array of initiatives that — we have asked each of the Committee Chairs months ago to give us in their legislation, initiatives that had the most jobs created in the fastest period of time. And so he had an array of initiatives that he brought to me last night, some of which we discussed today.

So of course, we would use the appropriations cycle, we will use the Ways and Means Committee and we have used the budget legislation as well as the authorizations of energy, education and health care to create jobs.”


13 posted on 09/28/2013 8:40:00 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: don-o
These are the 25 Republicans who voted with Reid to invoke cloture on the CR:

Lamar Alexander (R-TN)

Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)

John Barrasso (R-WY)

Roy Blunt (R-MO)

John Boozman (R-AR)

Richard Burr (R-NC)

Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)

Jeff Chiesa (R-NJ)

Daniel Coats (R-IN)

Tom Coburn (R-OK)

Thad Cochran (R-MS)

Susan Collins (R-ME)

Bob Corker (R-TN)

John Cornyn (R-TX)

Lindsey Graham (R-SC)

John Hoeven (R-ND)

Johnny Isakson (R-GA)

Mike Johanns (R-NE)

Mark Kirk (R-IL)

Ron Johnson (R-WI)

John McCain (R-AZ)

Mitch McConnell (R-KY)

Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)

John Thune (R-SD)

Roger Wicker (R-MS)

14 posted on 09/28/2013 8:41:32 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: ExTexasRedhead
These are the 19 Republican senators who voted against cloture:

Mike Crapo (R-ID)

Ted Cruz (R-TX)

Mike Enzi (R-WY)

Deb Fischer (R-NE)

Chuck Grassley (R-IA)

Dean Heller (R-NV)

Jim Inhofe (R-OK)

Mike Lee (R-UT)

Jerry Moran (R-KS)

Rand Paul (R-KY)

Rob Portman (R-OH)

James Risch (R-ID)

Pat Roberts (R-KS)

Marco Rubio (R-FL)

Tim Scott (R-SC)

Jeff Sessions (R-AL)

Richard Shelby (R-AL)

Pat Toomey (R-PA)

David Vitter (R-LA)

15 posted on 09/28/2013 8:43:10 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Son House

2009 to Present, The Great Jobless Recovery!

0/21/2009

Speaker Pelosi. “— we have asked each of the Committee
Chairs months ago to give us in their legislation,
initiatives that had the most jobs created
in the fastest period of time.”


16 posted on 09/28/2013 8:48:04 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Very good article at your link. Thanks.


17 posted on 09/28/2013 8:57:54 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: don-o

D-Walz, Mn

Congressman speaks at Angie’s Kettle Corn
September 28, 2010
By Mark Fischenich
http://mankatofreepress.com/local/x535472508/Economy-health-care-among-topics-for-Walz-visit

...Angie Bastian said the company’s human resources manager is having trouble finding detailed information about how the reform, which will mostly take affect in 2014, will impact their business.

“We’re looking for information,” she said. “... It would be helpful to have that so we can plan.”

Walz concurred, saying federal agencies need to finalize the rules surrounding the reform bill so that businesses of all sizes will know what will be expected of them and what sorts of tax credits they will receive. Ultimately, he said most small businesses will like what they see.

“The more people find out what’s in there, the happier they are,” he said.


18 posted on 09/28/2013 9:06:17 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: don-o

Problem 1:
No one gets up & directly rebutts the shut down crap.
When will they hit back?

Problem 2.
Not many dynamic speakers on our side of the line

I can think of more but these top my list at this moment.


19 posted on 09/28/2013 9:21:12 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

This rhetoric is nauseating. I can’t believe how stupid these representatives are.

Surely we are doomed.


20 posted on 09/28/2013 9:22:31 AM PDT by jacquej ("It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own." — Ma)
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To: Son House

What Democrats were told by their own economist about deficits;

10/21/2009 Transcript of Pelosi, House Democratic Leaders, and Economists’ Press Conference Following Economic Forum

Alan Blinder - And let me say this: I think our focus on the fiscal situation and deficit is very important in the long run, but I think it is also very appropriate to run a larger near term budget deficit to make sure that this economy gets out of this situation and gets on a self sustaining economic track. ...That said, we do have to be mindful of the long-run deficit problem. I have been taken recently in a number of venues to be quoting not quite correctly, paraphrasing St. Augustine who said something like, “Lord, make me chaste, but not just yet” We do need to become more chaste about the budget deficit, we do need to pay attention to the long-run fiscal hole, a lot of attention but in the short term, this is not the time to do it. 2009 and probably 2010 are not the times to do that.

Heather Boushey - Finally, I want to end with a statement about the deficit as well. I think that all of us agree that focusing on the short term deficit isn’t the right thing to do, we need to make sure that we’re focusing on job creation and if we don’t get people back to work, that too will increase the deficit. It isn’t an either or, the reality is that we need to get the economy back on track; we need to get people back to work. That will help our long term fiscal situation and then we need to be thinking about the deficit a few years out once we’ve got the economy back together.

Mark Zandi - I think our focus on the fiscal situation and deficit is very important in the long run, but I think it is also very appropriate to run a larger near term budget deficit to make sure that this economy gets out of this situation and gets on a self sustaining economic track.

Robert Kuttner - Last comment: you need to think about reduction of debt relative to the GDP as a 10-year project and in order to get the economy back on track, we may well need, we do need, more deficit spending now and in the next year but with a pre commitment to deficit reduction over 10 years through progressive taxation, one of the things we seem to agree on is a financial transactions tax, taxes aimed at the people who are still making out in this crisis so that the benefit can go to ordinary people and we don’t have to sacrifice the recovery on the long term/short term deficit reduction.

(Remember: Pelosi had been Speaker from January, 2007)
10/21/2009
Alan Blinder - “I think it is really quite remarkable that this many Members of the congressional leadership show up and spend several hours with the likes of us, talking seriously about the economy”

[The Great Jobless Recovery!]


21 posted on 09/28/2013 9:24:24 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: jacquej

Oh Gawd! Now we are implementing martial law per McGovern.


22 posted on 09/28/2013 9:33:32 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Son House

The Fed Nominee?

Robert Kuttner - ...but with a pre commitment to deficit reduction over 10 years through progressive taxation, one of the things we seem to agree on is a financial transactions tax, taxes aimed at the people who are still making out in this crisis so that the benefit can go to ordinary people and we don’t have to sacrifice the recovery on the long term/short term deficit reduction.

[And hows that progressive taxation going, Mr Kuttner? Even Bernanke observed unemployment hasn’t improved...]


23 posted on 09/28/2013 9:35:45 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

What? I missed that. (Someone knocked on my door)


24 posted on 09/28/2013 9:36:53 AM PDT by jacquej ("It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own." — Ma)
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To: don-o

Listening to the democrats whine on Cspan. These people all have it backwards and inside out. All we have to do is abide by the constitution and there is no problem. No shutdown. No runaway, unconstitutional government programs. The House has the constitutional duty to say no and to deny funding for nation-wrecking, unconstitutional programs like obamacare.


25 posted on 09/28/2013 9:37:49 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: don-o

As Democrats speak: Every American should realize the horror of becoming dependent on Government to provide anything.


26 posted on 09/28/2013 9:39:37 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: Son House

Hey, McGovern. Shut yer pie hole. WE WON THE ELECTION FOR THE HOUSE, jerk! The House holds the constitutional power of the purse! We the people have their backs. Sit down, shut up!


27 posted on 09/28/2013 9:43:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: jacquej

If I understood him, the rule to be voted on (to speed the process) was based on a martial law bill. Later in his rhetoric he said “so we are implementing martial law.”

That is how deep the BS is.


28 posted on 09/28/2013 9:45:21 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
No one gets up & directly rebutts the shut down crap. When will they hit back?

Exactly! Obama is crying he's being blackmailed and we just say "Thank you, sir! May I have another?".

Prez says he won't be blackmailed, we need to stand up and say we won't be bullied. The House is far more representative than the Senate yet those clowns say our way or the highway and the House is supposed to fold

And their threats of shutting down the gov't and blaming Republicans, THEIR THREATS - they refuse to pass a budget all year long then hold a gov't shutdown over the people's heads if Obamacare isn't funded. Even though the people don't want it, they bully America into surrendering their healthcare.

29 posted on 09/28/2013 9:45:22 AM PDT by Kenny (<p>)
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To: Son House

McGovern, how about the income tax increase on folks making more than $400k? Republicans went along with that, now where are the Democrat cuts?

[American for rolling back the Sequester Tax Increase for Democrat cuts that never happened] MEGAphone to Boehner...


30 posted on 09/28/2013 9:45:27 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: Jim Robinson

And I have yet to hear anyone reply:
Yes Obama won, but your job is to represent your constituents, NOT the president.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear a GOP Senator say the president deserves his nominees.


31 posted on 09/28/2013 9:48:25 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Son House

Ms NY just said this bill isn’t in effect and won’t be until Jan. Obummer said that over 1M already have the new benefits. How can they have the new benefits if it isn’t yet in effect? Is he speaking about those to which he gave waivers?

Obama: One Third of Americans ‘Already Have New Benefits’ (Another day, another lie)

“Obama claimed yet again he would not blink on the Affordable Care Act if the government shuts down. ”That’s not going to happen,” he said. “More than 100 million Americans currently already have new benefits and protections under the law. On Tuesday, about 40 million more Americans will be able to finally buy quality affordable health care just like anybody else.”(continued)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3072218/posts


32 posted on 09/28/2013 9:48:39 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: don-o

http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/gop-rank-and-file-predict-short-shutdown/
“A one-year delay in the implementation of the 2010 health care law and repeal of a medical device tax appeared to be the top contenders under consideration ... Other suggestions of bargaining chips include a stop to the health care subsidies for lawmakers and staff who are expected to get their insurance from Obamacare exchanges.... “opposition to the medical device tax is stronger than it’s ever been.” But Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., indicated that repeal of the tax is “not enough” to get people to vote for the CR.”


33 posted on 09/28/2013 9:50:23 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Son House

But wait Rep Slaughter, 4 years ago we were told Democrats had brought the recovery to an end;

Speaker Pelosi - “Nearly one year ago, or at the beginning of 2009, we passed the recovery package. What we heard across the board from our economists is that it is very positive, is it working, it has brought the great recession — it is bringing that to an end.”

[The Great Jobless Recovery!]


34 posted on 09/28/2013 9:52:40 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: Son House

I believe it was this Representative McGovern guy that just said
in his “law-of-the-land, “elections-have-consequences” barfing,
that democrats gained seats in both the house and the senate
in the 2012 elections.


35 posted on 09/28/2013 9:54:07 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: jacquej; Protect the Bill of Rights

What? I missed that. (Someone knocked on my door) Reference to #22
************

On Fox News they mentioned “legislative Martial Law” while mentioning the offer to delay Obamacare for one year.


36 posted on 09/28/2013 9:54:27 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: mrsmith

Rep Burgess is hitting the correct points about what is wrong from when the law was passed to all of the delays now.


37 posted on 09/28/2013 9:55:13 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

McGovern then responded by calling it a diatribe.


38 posted on 09/28/2013 9:56:01 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Repeal The 17th

Yeah, Rep McGovern are these all legal votes?


39 posted on 09/28/2013 9:56:40 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: Son House

(edit) for post 34

But wait Rep Slaughter, 4 years ago we were told Democrats had brought the (edit)Great Recession(edit) to an end;

Speaker Pelosi - “Nearly one year ago, or at the beginning of 2009, we passed the recovery package. What we heard across the board from our economists is that it is very positive, is it working, it has brought the great recession — it is bringing that to an end.”

[The Great Jobless Recovery!]
[The Great Jobless Recovery!]
[The Great Jobless Recovery!]
[The Great Jobless Recovery!]
(Beavis and Butthead moment)


40 posted on 09/28/2013 10:00:32 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: Son House

Rep Jackson Lee, Special interest? How about Single Payer Socialized Medicine?


41 posted on 09/28/2013 10:07:34 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: Son House

Watching these Liberals run their yaps is like watching a live version of the DSM V come to life! SHEESH! I have not seen this much delusional sociopathic behavior since the last Obammy speech!


42 posted on 09/28/2013 10:08:43 AM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: Son House

Rep Jackson Lee, maybe the parents should get a second job to support their families instead of relying on more food-stamps.


43 posted on 09/28/2013 10:09:19 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: Son House

Hey Ellison! Who died and made Reid the boss of the House?


44 posted on 09/28/2013 10:11:17 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Son House

Or they can move to Mars and live under the American flag.


45 posted on 09/28/2013 10:12:01 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Son House

I just spit my coffee dang near across the room, listening to that Muslim Brotherhood idiot Ellison say “reasonable heads shall prevail”.
Why Minnesota was cursed with that idiot (and Klobacher and Dayton and Franken and Ventura and a million Somali terrorists) I will never know!


46 posted on 09/28/2013 10:12:49 AM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: MagUSNRET

Sessions on fire now!


47 posted on 09/28/2013 10:13:54 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: MagUSNRET

I was in town at my favorite coffee joint when that...Lee individual came on and I had to leave, plus waste a half cup of coffee to keep from tearing the joint apart.

(Didn’t look like I was the only one that was reacting about the same way, but not enough to get physical about it. Guess I’m just getting out ahead of the curve again...)


48 posted on 09/28/2013 10:14:48 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (For why should my Freedom be judged by anothers conscience? 1 Cor 10:29)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

“Martial Law Rule” again from McGovern


49 posted on 09/28/2013 10:17:05 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

I was actually hoping that once Lee removed that Afro braided “tiara”, she might get more air to that addled brain of hers.....I was wrong...asnd Im not that inpressed with hr Lincoln Hayes from the MOD SQUAD afro-sheen do of hers either....She needs another gimmic to detract us from the idiocy that spews from her yap


50 posted on 09/28/2013 10:20:13 AM PDT by MagUSNRET
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