Posted on 09/25/2013 7:18:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 09/25/2013 7:31:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
With Obamacare’s impact on the family budget, we will see families defaulting on their mortgages, thrown out of their homes and children deserted by their parents. It will put parents in a corner and they will do things they would never think of doing to survive. It’s going to get scary.
The main purpose of obamacare is to bankrupt the lower and middle classes and make them beholden to the government for food, housing, clothing, etc.
Whatever it was that got Judge Roberts to change his mind at the last minute must have been something that would destroy him — maybe about his adopted children?
Because of THAT we get obamacare?!
>>>It in fact, nullifies our constitution and bill of rights and turns America into a benevolent dictatorship.<<<
I love you like a brother, my friend, but believing in the benevolence of the incipient dictatorship is misplaced optimism. God help us, Jim.
Thanks. And, yes, this single SCOTUS ruling for obamacare, if allowed to proceed and is not overturned, basically ends all of our God-given. constitutionally protected individual rights. We no longer have religious freedom or privacy rights or economic freedom. The government can now force its way on us at will. And snoop into our most intimate private records and private medical care. And it can allow the federal government to overturn state law and ORDER the states to do its bidding.
The “benevolence” is make believe. He’s doing it for our own good. For the betterment of society, etc.
> I don’t have your faith in the power of sweet reason. I think the only thing that will work is what Jim described: We’re now going to have millions of sob stories from closed businesses, from people who lose their jobs, from people who have their hours and pay reduced and lose access to healthcare altogether.
I predict some changes to address the worst cases. Then the cases that used to be second-worst are now the worst, and they get addressed. Eventually someone wins an election on a platform of “end Obamacare as we know it” and, after much time, repeal-and-replace becomes a reality.
that’s assuming that all that follow the One are unreasonable people. Many are; we all have seen episodes that have proved that but there are segments of the population that are starting to feel the heat because of his horrible economic policies. While I agree with most of what you say but I think prople begin to get a lot more “reasonable” and open to discussion when their world starts crumbling (which for many is, right now). Anything that assists people in understanding the ramifications of Obamacare and helps them come to the conclusion that they’ve been conned is a good thing IMHO.
Blah blah blah. More worthless preaching to the choir.
Preaching to the choir won’t change anything. Zerocare will go forward, you’ll all knuckle under and buy your zerocare insurance, pay those premiums, and put up with it. You’ll whine about it, but you won’t do anything about it.
Exposing the truth and preaching to the choir is not fighting for freedom. Whining on boards like this is not fighting for freedom. It’s just talk, and talk accomplishes nothing.
Nobody in power cares about the constitution anymore because nobody in power will hold them to it. It’s SCOTUS’s job, and they’ve abdicated that job. Half the justices are flaming liberals and the other half are gutless conservatives. Zerocare could easily have been ruled unconstitutional in several ways, but what did SCOTUS do? They figured out how to make it seem constitutional. Not one single state supreme court has ruled zerocare unconstitutional, and none will.
The constitutional battle is lost. It’s been lost a long time. Viewing things against the constitution is a waste of time. It’s an argument nobody in power listens to nor cares about. It really is “beating a dead horse”.
A physical bullets flying revolution is the only thing that would “take the government back” now, and it won’t happen.
So suck it up and get used to living in the new communism overtaking America.
WHAT YOU SAID!
dude, I don’t get, nor do I care what your major malfunction is, but I’ll tell you this, you damned surrender monkey, I’m not going to knuckle under as you suggest, so GFY.
Oh yeah,
IBTZ
well, bye.
Thanks, Mr. Soros, but no thanks.
(cue the happy dance lady)
Agree with you JR, but govt already controls 46% of healthcare in the US (medicare, medicaid, veterans, fed employees).
The horse has left the barn on this one.
We have had his number since he was a state senator voting “present.”
I just wish that I knew how most of “our” guys, Pubbies, got turned. Or perhaps, the
GOP got infiltrated just like every other important, influential institution in our country.
The propaganda force is strong with these congressmen, with notable exceptions.
He certainly didn’t pledge his life, his fortune, or his “sacred” honor, now *did* he...
One man, John Roberts, sacrificed his entire country for the sake of himself, his career, and his family.
He is beneath contempt.
Can you tell that I’m no longer a fan?
Freedom is not free bump.
That’s what Jim is saying. It has to go back to the states, per the Constitution.
There is nothing in the Constitution allowing the FedGov monster to meddle in our healthcare.
Hi Sarge! Nice to see you.
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