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Is the United States Splitting Apart?
Townhall ^ | 09/25/2013 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 09/25/2013 10:24:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In September, the Siskiyou County Board of Supervisors voted to secede from the State of California. "Many proposed laws are unconstitutional and deny us our God-given rights," said one attendee at the council meeting. "We need our own state so we can make laws that fit our way of life." A few weeks later, the Modoc County Board of Supervisors voted to join Siskiyou in the new state of Jefferson, voting 4-0 to leave California.

The board votes didn't mean much legally -- the federal government and state government of California would have to recognize the new proposed state of Jefferson. But symbolically, the vote recognizes the growing incompatibility of leftist governance and conservative populations, and vice versa. California is the United States writ small: a state increasingly dominated by Democrats at the top levels, but remaining largely red locally; a state with a massive gap between the major metropolitan areas, which trend deeply blue, and the more rural conservative areas. Increasingly, the two populations simply can't work together.

And thus conservatives are leaving. More and more business have taken off for Texas, New Mexico, Nevada. Three companies a week left California for Texas from 1990 to 2010 (about one company left Texas for California each week during that same period). California's population growth has been driven largely by illegal immigration. The breadbasket of California in the San Joaquin Valley has been devastated by a combination of federal and state environmental regulations.

Conservatives in California still have someplace to go. But what happens when states begin falling, one after another, for the Democratic playbook? As California drives itself deeper into the mire, even leftists are unsatisfied with its style of living -- and they're leaving. Between 1995 and 2000, California lost nearly 67,000 residents to Texas, and lost 94,000 to Arizona; California also lost 55,000 to Colorado. Those emigrants probably voted heavily Democrat in California. Now they've moved to new states, where they will undoubtedly copycat the same destructive practices that drove them from their original homes.

After all, that's what happened to California. California used to be a reliably middle-of-the-road state -- it was home to both Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. But from 1955 to 1960, California absorbed large liberal populations from states like New York (nearly 99,000) and Illinois (100,000). That trend continued and was exacerbated by immigration across the southern border. The Republican Party didn't help itself any with Proposition 187 under the governorship of Pete Wilson, which targeted public services for illegal immigrants. Now California is perhaps the bluest state in the nation, even though on the local level, it remains largely red.

So what happens when people run out of places to run? What happens when all of America's major metro areas go blue and those populations control states with conservative rural populations? What happens when those conservatives get sick of paying for the excesses of leftist governance?

Exactly what's happening in California? And while California's secessionists may seem like a frivolity now, they may be an early warning of what's to come if Americans cannot reunite around common political principles.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: calexit; california; cwii; newcalifornia; secession; stateofjefferson; timdraper; unitedstates
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1 posted on 09/25/2013 10:24:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 09/25/2013 10:25:33 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes.


3 posted on 09/25/2013 10:25:46 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SeekAndFind

Doesn’t he answer his own question here? Parts of states cannot secede unless both the state and Feds agree to it, which has only happened under CW conditions (West Virginia)


4 posted on 09/25/2013 10:25:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

“Is the US splitting apart?”

Duh!


5 posted on 09/25/2013 10:28:02 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

California is NOT red on the local level....at least not in its big cities and metro areas wher about 90% of the people reside.


6 posted on 09/25/2013 10:28:03 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SeekAndFind

MAKE DC LISTEN: TELL YOUR SENATORS !

State Senator Party Phone
AK Mark Begich D (202) 224-3004
AK Lisa Murkowski R (202) 224-6665
AL Jeff Sessions R (202) 224-4124
AL Richard C. Shelby R (202) 224-5744
AR John Boozman R (202) 224-4843
AR Mark L. Pryor D (202) 224-2353
AZ Jeff Flake R (202) 224-4521
AZ John McCain R (202) 224-2235
CA Barbara Boxer D (202) 224-3553
CA Dianne Feinstein D (202) 224-3841
CO Michael F. Bennet D (202) 224-5852
CO Mark Udall D (202) 224-5941
CT Richard Blumenthal D (202) 224-2823
CT Christopher Murphy D (202) 224-4041
DE Thomas R. Carper D (202) 224-2441
DE Christopher A. Coons D (202) 224-5042
FL Bill Nelson D (202) 224-5274
FL Marco Rubio R (202) 224-3041
GA Saxby Chambliss R (202) 224-3521
GA Johnny Isakson R (202) 224-3643
HI Mazie K. Hirono D (202) 224-6361
HI Brian Schatz D (202) 224-3934
IA Chuck Grassley R (202) 224-3744
IA Tom Harkin D (202) 224-3254
ID Mike Crapo R (202) 224-6142
ID James E. Risch R (202) 224-2752
IL Richard J. Durbin D (202) 224-2152
IL Mark Kirk R (202) 224-2854
IN Daniel Coats R (202) 224-5623
IN Joe Donnelly D (202) 224-4814
KS Jerry Moran R (202) 224-6521
KS Pat Roberts R (202) 224-4774
KY Mitch McConnell R (202) 224-2541
KY Rand Paul R (202) 224-4343
LA Mary L. Landrieu D (202) 224-5824
LA David Vitter R (202) 224-4623
MA Edward Markey D (202) 224-2742
MA Elizabeth Warren D (202) 224-4543
MD Benjamin L. Cardin D (202) 224-4524
MD Barbara A. Mikulski D (202) 224-4654
ME Susan M. Collins R (202) 224-2523
ME Angus S. King I (202) 224-5344
MI Carl Levin D (202) 224-6221
MI Debbie Stabenow D (202) 224-4822
MN Al Franken D (202) 224-5641
MN Amy Klobuchar D (202) 224-3244
MO Roy Blunt R (202) 224-5721
MO Claire McCaskill D (202) 224-6154
MS Thad Cochran R (202) 224-5054
MS Roger F. Wicker R (202) 224-6253
MT Max Baucus D (202) 224-2651
MT Jon Tester D (202) 224-2644
NC Richard Burr R (202) 224-3154
NC Kay R. Hagan D (202) 224-6342
ND Heidi Heitkamp D (202) 224-2043
ND John Hoeven R (202) 224-2551
NE Deb Fischer R (202) 224-6551
NE Mike Johanns R (202) 224-4224
NH Kelly Ayotte R (202) 224-3324
NH Jeanne Shaheen D (202) 224-2841
NJ Jeff Chiesa R (202) 224-3224
NJ Robert Menendez D (202) 224-4744
NM Martin Heinrich D (202) 224-5521
NM Tom Udall D (202) 224-6621
NV Dean Heller R (202) 224-6244
NV Harry Reid D (202) 224-3542
NY Kirsten E. Gillibrand D (202) 224-4451
NY Charles E. Schumer D (202) 224-6542
OH Sherrod Brown D (202) 224-2315
OH Rob Portman R (202) 224-3353
OK Tom Coburn R (202) 224-5754
OK James M. Inhofe R (202) 224-4721
OR Jeff Merkley D (202) 224-3753
OR Ron Wyden D (202) 224-5244
PA Robert P. Casey D (202) 224-6324
PA Patrick J. Toomey R (202) 224-4254
RI Jack Reed D (202) 224-4642
RI Sheldon Whitehouse D (202) 224-2921
SC Lindsey Graham R (202) 224-5972
SC Tim Scott R (202) 224-6121
SD Tim Johnson D (202) 224-5842
SD John Thune R (202) 224-2321
TN Lamar Alexander R (202) 224-4944
TN Bob Corker R (202) 224-3344
TX John Cornyn R (202) 224-2934
UT Orrin G. Hatch R (202) 224-5251
UT Mike Lee R (202) 224-5444
VA Tim Kaine D (202) 224-4024
VA Mark R. Warner D (202) 224-2023
VT Patrick J. Leahy D (202) 224-4242
VT Bernard Sanders I (202) 224-5141
WA Maria Cantwell D (202) 224-3441
WA Patty Murray D (202) 224-2621
WI Tammy Baldwin D (202) 224-5653
WI Ron Johnson R (202) 224-5323
WV Joe Manchin D (202) 224-3954
WV John D. Rockefeller D (202) 224-6472
WY John Barrasso R (202) 224-6441
WY Michael B. Enzi R (202) 224-3424

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7 posted on 09/25/2013 10:28:12 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Republican Party didn't help itself any with Proposition 187 under the governorship of Pete Wilson, which targeted public services for illegal immigrants.

BTW I don't get this take on 187. The measure passed with 2/3 of the vote & was thrown out by a single corrupt judge.

8 posted on 09/25/2013 10:28:16 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind
Is the United States Splitting Apart?

WHAT?

With The Great Uniter at the helm? Perish the thought.

9 posted on 09/25/2013 10:28:18 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why not have states split?

It’s happened before (Maine + W. Virginia), and there is nothing saying we have to have 50. We had far fewer in the past.

Most of these are states created out of territories, not (for the most part) former nations with centuries of history. Big whoop if California shrinks.


10 posted on 09/25/2013 10:29:16 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind

Producers vs takers ***AND*** their enablers.


11 posted on 09/25/2013 10:30:26 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.” John Wayne)
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To: SeekAndFind
That trend continued and was exacerbated by immigration across the southern border.

Every state is now a border state. Immigration, legal and illegal, is changing the electoral map in this country. Unless we reduce legal immigration and stop illegal immigration, the entire country will look like CA.

12 posted on 09/25/2013 10:31:00 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

May be.


13 posted on 09/25/2013 10:31:09 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: SeekAndFind
I pray we solve our differences amicably, because if we don't, CWII will make CWI look like a walk in the park on a warm spring day.

5.56mm

14 posted on 09/25/2013 10:31:26 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
California is NOT red on the local level....at least not in its big cities and metro areas wher about 90% of the people reside.

Well we do know one thing - CA voters do NOT respect moderate republicans, which is all they've had to vote for on that side of the ballot since 84.

I'm thinking a principled alternative to liberal policies might not do too badly here.

15 posted on 09/25/2013 10:31:33 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind
The Republican Party didn't help itself any with Proposition 187 under the governorship of Pete Wilson, which targeted public services for illegal immigrants.

Nonsense. That was the last chance to save California, and one judge put the stop to it.

16 posted on 09/25/2013 10:31:52 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
When our leader divides us...we split apart. Seems pretty simple.

And unless this leader interns those who he dislikes...he is going to have trouble preventing the split.

17 posted on 09/25/2013 10:31:54 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’m beginning to wonder how far we really are from an armed insurrection. There are times I feel angry enough to participate in one, and I know I can’t be alone, but reason prevails and I try to bide my time in the hopes the pendulum begins to swing the other way.

With the warrantless collection of citizens’ electronic communication, gun and ammo restrictions, and paperless economy, it’s almost like the feds have been planning for a rebellion a lot longer than anyone else may have.


18 posted on 09/25/2013 10:32:04 AM PDT by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing would make me happier.


19 posted on 09/25/2013 10:32:33 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind

I see this as a good thing. Americans are pushing back against governmental overrreach at all levels.


20 posted on 09/25/2013 10:32:34 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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