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Turkey Says It Shot Down Syrian Helicopter
WSJ online ^ | 16 Sep 13 | By JOE PARKINSON And AYLA ALBAYRAK

Posted on 09/16/2013 10:48:11 AM PDT by elhombrelibre

ISTANBUL—Turkey said one of its warplanes Monday shot down a Syrian helicopter that had violated Turkish airspace, underlining the regional combustibility of Syria's conflict despite a week of frenzied international diplomacy.

The Turkish military said that the Mi-17 attack helicopter strayed into Turkish territory and was warned repeatedly before Turkish warplanes scrambled and shot it down.

The confrontation marks the first time Turkey, a North Atlantic Treaty Organization member, has shot down a Syrian helicopter, although Ankara has been scrambling jets to deter Syrian air power flying close to the frontier for more than a year.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: turkey

1 posted on 09/16/2013 10:48:11 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

There’s always little catalysts that start major wars..


2 posted on 09/16/2013 11:01:45 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: elhombrelibre

Is Turkey going to attempt to invoke Article V on this? If they do, we are obligated by treaty to attack Syria.


3 posted on 09/16/2013 11:06:18 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Turkey may be the dope, in a rope-a-dope action.
4 posted on 09/16/2013 11:10:43 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Been there. Done that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Resolution


5 posted on 09/16/2013 11:15:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Looks like it’s time for Obama to go golfing again. Wouldn’t want to have to deal with any of these pesky situations.


6 posted on 09/16/2013 11:26:13 AM PDT by matt04
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To: Thunder90
Is Turkey going to attempt to invoke Article V on this?

They tried doing that before when they actually were attacked and had one of their own planes shot down off the coast of Syria. Never went any where.

7 posted on 09/16/2013 11:33:39 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (I think Obama and crew feel that time is being wasted and that we need to get the jump on Russian sh)
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To: elhombrelibre

Disgusting genocide denying Turks again.


8 posted on 09/16/2013 11:55:51 AM PDT by eleni121 ("All Along the Watchtower" Book of Isaiah, Chapter 21, verses 5-9)
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To: matt04

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9 posted on 09/16/2013 3:48:16 PM PDT by oxcart (Journalism [sic])
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To: justa-hairyape

To #7: Payback is a well placed missile!

Big helicopter went on the express elevator to Hell!


10 posted on 09/16/2013 3:53:56 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: matt04

To #6: More likely “its time for Obama to go on a ROADTRIP”.


11 posted on 09/16/2013 3:54:42 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: elhombrelibre

Operation Turkey Drop.


12 posted on 09/16/2013 4:27:21 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Impeach We Much!)
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To: oxcart
http://obamagolfcounter.com

Great website. Thanks!
13 posted on 09/16/2013 5:02:00 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: elhombrelibre

That’s what I call a Turkey shoot.


14 posted on 09/16/2013 7:05:46 PM PDT by Redcitizen (.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Whenever I hear of a MI-17 getting shoot down I always have a picture of Rambo with an explosive tipped arrow leaving his compound bow.


15 posted on 09/16/2013 7:11:25 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

thanks elhombrelibre, from the FRchives:

Turkish warplane [not] shot down over Syria, pilots captured
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2898237/posts


16 posted on 09/16/2013 7:52:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Thunder90

No way we are obligated. The Turks started the shooting, and were not attacked. A single lost helicopter crossing a border is simply -not- an invasion requiring all of NATO to invade Syria.
Especially with the helo showing no hostile actions.


17 posted on 09/17/2013 1:05:39 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: justa-hairyape

“when they actually were attacked and had one of their own planes shot down off the coast of Syria”

Attacked? Their Phantom recon aircraft deliberately flew into Syrian airspace. That’s like walking into someone else’s house on purpose, to spy on them. And then claiming you were the victim when they punch you.


18 posted on 09/17/2013 1:10:07 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

“Big helicopter went on the express elevator to Hell!”

Unless the Syrian pilots were busy fighting against the Obama fed and supplied Al Qeida troops.


19 posted on 09/17/2013 1:12:51 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino
No way we are obligated. The Turks started the shooting, and were not attacked. A single lost helicopter crossing a border is simply -not- an invasion requiring all of NATO to invade Syria.

Especially with the helo showing no hostile actions.


The Turks have their own special way of doing things unlike any other country in the region. Personally, I like and respect the way they do business. It's not perfect but it works for them and, at the same time, we have a history of fairly good relations with them ... until the Obango era began at least. They do not respect Obango and it shows.
20 posted on 09/17/2013 10:46:39 AM PDT by JRPerry
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To: DesertRhino

I am worried that Turkey’s government may have orchestrated this to drag us into a regional conflict which they can use to expand their influence and help bring about their own version of a militant Sunni state. Turkey is led by a government that is actively hacking away at Turkey’s secularist traditions and , like in Pakistan, it is a safe bet to assume that much of the Turkish military is sympathetic to hardline Sunni jihadists in Syria and nearby nations who want a Sunni caliphate.


21 posted on 09/17/2013 7:40:18 PM PDT by freedom462
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To: freedom462

Nothing was orchestrated. The Syrians themselves admitted that their helicopter entered Turkish airspace while on a reconnaissance mission. The following was posted on the Syrian Government website

‘Damascus, (SANA) – A statement issued by the General Command of the Army and the Armed Forces said that a military helicopter was lost Monday Sept 16th , 2013 as it was carrying out a reconnaissance sortie to inspect the infiltration of terrorists across the Turkish borders in al-Younesieh area near Bidama town in Idleb countryside.

The statement said that inquiry showed that the helicopter mistakenly entered the Turkish airspace for a short distance and then it exited towards the Syrian territories after immediate orders’


22 posted on 09/19/2013 7:19:47 PM PDT by Tommyjo
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