Unstoppable - the Movie

Liberty University ^ | Uncertain | Kirk Cameron

[ZULU]

Where is God in the midst of tragedy and suffering?

[edcoil]

He is in each and everyone of us.

[nathanbedford]

This movie appeared on Broadway a half-century ago as a play called "JB" by Archibald McLeish; it first appeared centuries ago in a book called The Bible in a chapter called "Job."

I prefer consulting the original authorities on the ultimate issue of an all-powerful, all righteous God countenancing the existence of the evil.

[Borges]

The play was an Biblical allegory. There are many such dramas.

[Repeal The 17th]

Theme song “The Time Is Now” - by Warren Barfield

On youtube:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUQAyd5GSV0
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Lyrics:
I cut my teeth, on the back of an old church pew
I learned to walk in the ways of light and truth
And I was told not to speak til I was spoken to
I heard it preached, what I should and I should not do
And the choir sang
Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh

I tried to be a good boy but I ain’t a boy no more
I’ve seen somethings that a man just can’t ignore
And this world’s gone see what I am standing for
I’ve kept my peace, I can’t hold my tongue anymore

You can’t buy my silence, you can’t steal my voice
You can’t keep me quiet, I will bring the noise
Try to beat me down, tell me to shut my mouth
But there’s a time to speak and the time is now
Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh

The squeaky wheel is always getting greased
Well, I’ve been sitting still
Park here on the side of the street
Always tip-toeing trying not to wake the beast
Oh but here I come
All you monsters had better run from me

You can’t buy my silence, you can’t steal my voice
You can’t keep me quiet, I will bring the noise
Try to beat me down, tell me to shut my mouth
But there’s a time to speak and the time is now
Ooh It’s the time and the time is now
Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh

You can’t buy my silence, you can’t steal my voice
You can’t keep me quiet, I will bring the noise
Try to beat me down, tell me to shut my mouth
But there’s a time to speak and the time is now

You can’t buy my silence, you can’t steal my voice
You can’t keep me quiet, I will bring the noise
Try to beat me down, tell me to shut my mouth
But there’s a time to speak and the time is now
Woh oh oh oh oh oh oh

[Borges]

You implied that any such work should be ignored in favor of the ‘source’. That demonstrates a misunderstanding of the purpose of Biblical allegories.

[SoFloFreeper]

We are going to go see this on 24 September.

[ZULU]

Considering all the garbage and nonesense spawned from the twisted mind and foul mouth of Hollywood, when somebody comes along with something that appears to support believers and compliment the Bible, he should be encouraged and patronized. Based on what I read bout him, Cameron is a Great American and a believer.

Read Job. Great book. Possibly the oldest book in the Bible, based on the orignal language.

[ZULU]

Me too.

[nathanbedford]

I certainly did imply that the work should be ignored in favor of the source when that source is The Bible and The Book of Job is itself an allegory, hence an original "biblical allegory."

I am willing to bet a great odds that the movie falls far short of the uncompromising allegory in the Old Testament which grapples with the ultimate questions alluded to in the movie trailer in a most profound way. One gets a distinct impression of plagiarism from the trailer. Normally plagiarism of the Bible is to be encouraged but in this case it also smacks of exploitation, we shall see.

Meanwhile, few sheep will be led astray if they are tended close to the Bible and away from the cinema at least when they seek ultimate truth about ultimate issues.

[nathanbedford]

I have indeed read Job, last week as coincidence would have it, however it is not The Bible of which I am wary but the movie.

Nevertheless, as I observed in a previous post when I said, "we shall see," I am open to be educated about this flick even as I remain skeptical.

[Borges]

Well most films or plays won’t be of the same stature as the KJB. But even something like E.T. is a Biblical allegory (E.T. being Jesus).

[nathanbedford]

You know, I never got that. Maybe that's why ET was absolutely wasted on me. I never saw the point of it and I thought it was typical Hollywood clandestinely undermining faith in a higher being by substituting a kind of feel-good relativism.

I see this so many times in so many movies in which a very secular kind of salvation is substituted for a real kind that perhaps a gun shy.

[Borges]

Well you could say that about ‘2001’ and Close Encounters as well. A lot of Science Fiction deals with ‘God like’ figures.

[avenir]

“I prefer consulting the original authorities on the ultimate issue of an all-powerful, all righteous God countenancing the existence of the evil.”

I’ve become tired of the ersatz as well, after gluttoning myself on it since youth (so many bad habits are developed there). An old preacher once said, “Lets quit tippy-toeing around in the shallows” and dive into the substance of the Word (who became flesh and lived for a while among us).

[nathanbedford]

I've had some fun in the past posting my idea that science fiction is a potentially wonderful instrument for forcing the observer to see the world in a new way. However, when a genre such as science fiction, or whatever Harry Potter is as a genre, there is always a danger that it can lapse into a Greek drama in which the plot is solved dues ex machine because the author writes the rules of his universe. That is somewhat different than in author being true to the unwritten rules of the genre such as in Western fiction. In science fiction the author gets to change the laws of physics.

If you can change the laws of physics, you come close to playing God and that is, of course, the ultimate as well as the first sin. I suppose if one looks at science fiction as allegory of a spiritual type one could justify what I would regard to be a blasphemous appropriation of the Providence of God.

[nathanbedford]

Thank you, I think that is what I was trying to say.

[Repeal The 17th]

I am absolutely amazed that you, NBF, were reduced to so few words.
Perhaps a world record.

[nathanbedford]

Verbosity is no doubt a sin, I hope venal and not mortal. I only wish they had explained on the box that it comes with the software for Dragon NaturallySpeaking voice-recognition software.