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China’s ‘Carrier-Killer’ Was Born before that. Big Clinton donors let let the Chicoms know what was going wrong when they tried to put satellites into orbit. Capitalists selling the rope with which they'll be hanged.
1 posted on 09/08/2013 2:32:05 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Word is that some of the functions of Milosevic’s secret police were being carried out at the Chinese Embassy as a de-facto safehouse.

The JDAM simply glides to the GPS coordinates it is supplied with:

How likely is it that the US military programmed in the WRONG coordinates...?

The Embassy was struck because it was being used as an instrument of WAR.

I didn’t agree with that war, but that’s not the point.


2 posted on 09/08/2013 2:36:52 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: neverdem

Everything the Chinese produce is junk. Their military is incompetent. The only advantages they have are numbers and our treasonous political leadership.


4 posted on 09/08/2013 2:43:27 PM PDT by Ajnin (Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.)
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To: neverdem

IIRC, that was a brand new Chinese embassy that was not open for business yet or only partially open.

Many speculated that there might have been ‘reasons’ it met with the ‘accident’.


5 posted on 09/08/2013 2:50:23 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: neverdem

Also recall that a Chinese sub came up undetected in the middle of a US fleet not so long ago.

China may be itching to try out their new ‘bath tub’ toys.


7 posted on 09/08/2013 2:51:45 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: neverdem

The strike on the Chinese embassy in Belgrade had nothing to do with an aircraft carrier. It was carried out by B-2’s operating from Whiteman AFB, MO.


12 posted on 09/08/2013 3:02:12 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: neverdem

A carrier is a formidable weapon against a technologically inferior enemy. When used against another superpower such as Russia or China it is dead meat, as theirs would be dead meat if used against us. If you can see it from orbital altitude or know where it is by other means, you can kill it.


13 posted on 09/08/2013 3:09:22 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: neverdem

Oh, Bernie.


14 posted on 09/08/2013 3:09:54 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of the Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: neverdem

Aircraft carriers were problematic in WW-II, they may in fact be outmoded now. You couldn’t design an easier target for a missile.


15 posted on 09/08/2013 3:14:33 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Jeff Head

Ping.


16 posted on 09/08/2013 3:16:57 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: neverdem

Black powder rockets are not a threat to our carriers.


17 posted on 09/08/2013 3:18:53 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: neverdem

Warfighting ping.


18 posted on 09/08/2013 3:20:27 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: neverdem
... — part of a campaign to force an end to the ethnic cleansing of Kosovar Albanians by Serb forces — ...

That part of the story is fiction.

The prize of Klinton's dog-wagging episodes was dog-wag III (to take the Broaddrick story off the front pages) , in which a totally innocent slavic orthodox Christian nation was bombed into the stone age for the benefit of white trash, narco-terrorists, and barbarians. I mention the fact that Serbia is a slavic orthodox Christian nation because Russia is also a slavic orthodox Christian nation, i.e. because this third dog-wagging episode involved the risk of a thermonuclear war.

Any serious research into this one will reveal that the Western public was fed an unadulterated diet of BS from the NATO propaganda organ, the Clinton spin machine, and a shiftless Western establishment media which simply included the propaganda on its pages and called it news rather than doing any real reporting.  Moreover, the entire picture of the situation in the Balkans which the West has seen in its media over the last decade is rendered hugely suspect since it arises from the same kinds of sources.

Any sort of a thorough research will turn up the reality that the whole problem in Kosovo was always the Albanian Kosovars and not the Serbs.  The present problems seemingly began with Miloshevich rescinding the autonomy of the region in 1989.  The truth is that he had no options, and that all other ethnic groups in Kosovo were being brutalized by the Albanian Kosovars:

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/ddj/Kosovo/articles/Binder87NYT.htm

Further readings and articles from the 80's tell much the same story:

http://members.tripod.com/~sarant_2/ksm.html

What about before that?   The truth is that, despite the endless villification and demonization which they come in for from the Clinton spin machine and the NATO propaganda arm, the Serbs are the closest thing there is to normal, rational, decent people in the balkans. They fought with the allies in WW-II and in fact held Hitler for seven months and sent him into Russia in the dead of winter rather than on schedule, but for which the whole world might be sporting swastikas now. They in fact saved 500 allied airmen who were shot down on raids over Ploesti and other targets in the region:

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/antiFascists.html

Needless to say, any allied airman who was ever shot down over one of the states surrounding Serbia was killed.  The states surrounding Serbia all sided with Hitler, e.g.:

http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/thompson/rootsof.htm

The Serbs paid a horrific price for all of this.  Hundreds of thousands of them were murdered, many in Nazi-style death camps set up in the surrounding states.

Nonetheless, history does not count for much amongst gangsters. Clinton and his NWO pals had numerous reasons for wishing to dismantle Yugoslavia, not the least of which was the 5 - 20 trillion in mineral wealth of the Trepca mines.  Check out:

www.tenc.net

for background materials on that sort of topic.

The "Racak massacre" which Clinton and Albright used as a pretext for the NATO action turns out to be more propaganda BS:

http://www.emperors-clothes.com/analysis/meetmr.htm

and the Rambouillet ultimatum, particularly Appendix B, section 8, which the Serbs refused to sign, turns out to look like something which King George might have written.  No nation on Earth  would ever sign off on such a thing:

http://emperors-clothes.com/gilwhite/rambouillet.htm

It turns out that the entire case against Serbia was never anything but a bunch of bullshit.  There was never any "ethnic cleansing" going on:

http://www.iraqwar.org/germanreport.htm

and there was never anything remotely like genocide going on:

http://www.counterpunch.org/biglie.html

nothing but a bunch of fabricated bullshit and a bunch of poor sorry people (Serbs) having to defend themselves against an armed insurrection supported and supplied by outside powers.

The laws of war have changed substantially since the end of WW-II. The kinds of things we were doing to the Japanese and Germans, legal then, would be war crimes now.  In the Kosovo operation, American forces knew that they had a tough and dangerous adversary to deal with and they knew that they also were doing this for an utterly base and ignoble cause which they could not possibly ask any NATO pilot to die for, and that dog-wagging was again involved.  They therefore limited all operations to 15,000 feet or higher.  When they discovered that they could not harm the Serbian military from that height, they embarked upon an entire series of war crimes, such as bombing out bridges in the middle of little towns like Varvarin in the middle of the day when, guaranteed, nothing was going to be on them other than people like Sanja Milenkovic running errands.  It thus comes as no surprise that even Amnesty International is accusing NATO of war crimes now.  Aside from that, they began to bomb out the entire civilian infrastructure of Serbia, including factories, water plants, electrical grids, and basically everything the civilian population of Serbia needs to stay alive.  That's all criminal activity.

Walter Rockler, a surviving American prosecutor from the Nuremberg trubunal, claims that NATO is every bit as guilty of war crimes as the nazis were:

http://www.counterpunch.org/rockler.html

Other major kinds of indictments of Clinton, Albright, Blair, Cohen, Clark, and the other clintonistas and NATO leaders involved in this debacle are not difficult to find on the internet.

There is no such thing as a good demoKKKrat war

The only good demoKKKrat war is one which is prevented and happens only in their dreug-addled minds.

21 posted on 09/08/2013 3:40:37 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: neverdem
yup... LORAL iirc
29 posted on 09/08/2013 5:45:50 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem
The New American century ended in 1999 in Serbia, before it started.

The most formidable fighting force fighting against two-bit army has shown its true colors:

After 78 days of relentless bombing under the absolute air superiority, 14 destroyed tanks, thousands of civilians murdered in deliberate targeting.

NATO has shown it's true fighting capability. Paper tiger, true war racket collecting money for nothing for years.

For example, in Kosare mountain pass, U.S. and French special forces were not able to break defense line of several thousand Serbian conscripts and reserve reenforced with a battalion of Special Forces.

But it was not the two-bit Serbian army that brought the dream of New American century to an abrupt rude awakening. The pivotal blow was brought by liberal American media. Ruskies watching AMERICAN satellite channels got first hand experience what NATO and American democracy is all about-exactly what Communist propaganda was telling them for years.

America lost Cold war victory by showing prematurely her true colors.

As a result, drunken Yeltsin and his cohort were sent to doghouse and Putin and his superiors took control of Russia wheel. Ouch.

India went "nucular".

And Chicoms got mail. And F117a to Reverse & Duplicate

(btw. CIA operative who entered "erroneous data" that resulted in killing Chinese diplomats was murdered in home invasion by Oriental looking thugs.)

The kernel of BRIC and joint defense was created in 1999.

For those who overslept history classes, Russia, China, Persia and India never were allies in the whole of known history.

As a result, Neocon plunder of Siberia never happened, and 2008 meltdown was the result.

The inability to control Pacific in 2020 will ensue.

The further developments will show the folly of attacking Serbia under false pretense of saving poor innocent Kosovo Albanian Islamic terrorists.

I hope that this post will enrage enough people to check who was involved in spreading the lies and spearheading aggression on Serbia in 1999 and what they are doing now in U.S. administration.

Show me who attacked Serbia in 1999 and I will show you who is domestic enemy of U.S.A.

30 posted on 09/08/2013 6:44:03 PM PDT by DTA (Hands off Syria !)
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42 posted on 09/08/2013 9:48:40 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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>> several U.S. missiles slammed into the Chinese embassy.

But none to UBL’s camp in Afghanistan...


44 posted on 09/08/2013 10:00:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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I’m dubious about any military threats that would not be totally counterproductive to China’s interests.


45 posted on 09/08/2013 10:03:28 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: neverdem
The ChiComs DF-21D Vaporware has never hit anything, aside perhaps, from a rectangle in the Gobi desert. It's never hit a stationary ship or a ship moving in a straight line.
46 posted on 09/08/2013 10:22:47 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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Article and comments, esp. # 21, # 30.

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49 posted on 09/09/2013 10:00:43 AM PDT by LucyT
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