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10-year Treasury yields close in on 3%
Marketwatch.com ^ | September 5, 2013 | Ben Eisen

Posted on 09/05/2013 10:54:46 AM PDT by Deo volente

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Treasury prices tumbled on Thursday as the benchmark 10-year note yield pushed to the brink of 3%, a psychological threshold emblematic of its sharp climb since early May.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bonds; economy
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1 posted on 09/05/2013 10:54:46 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Deo volente

This is not good news for the housing market, which has weakened in recent weeks, nor for the debt-based economy.


2 posted on 09/05/2013 10:57:20 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: Deo volente

I’ve been watching this interest rate for the last 5 years with...great interest. If it hit 4% we are all so screwed.


3 posted on 09/05/2013 10:59:21 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: Deo volente

This bears watching, because there’s a great deal of “easy money” sloshing around all the markets.

When the 10 year T market falls off and rates go back up again, a whole lot of “easy money” assumptions come off the table and lots of markets will take a hit. Starting with the pseudo-recovery in housing.


4 posted on 09/05/2013 11:00:42 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Toss me a clue? Why is 4% bad? What are the ramifications?

Thanks


5 posted on 09/05/2013 11:01:14 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

we borrow so much on a daily basis that an increase of just a percentage point would make the INTERESTE ALONE on the national debt greater than we can pay


6 posted on 09/05/2013 11:03:01 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
6-month chart


7 posted on 09/05/2013 11:04:53 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I’ve been watching this interest rate for the last 5 years with...great interest. If it hit 4% we are all so screwed.

As an expert can you explain the mechanism for the screwing at 5%?

8 posted on 09/05/2013 11:05:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Mr. K

Okay, I get you on that part, makes sense. What drives this particular interest rate?

(apologies for being obtuse on this, input is appreciated)


9 posted on 09/05/2013 11:06:11 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Mr. K

No problem. Obama will just have the Federal Reserve crank up the money printing machines.


10 posted on 09/05/2013 11:06:23 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

That will cause mortgage rates to dramatically increase, thus slamming the brakes on a modest housing recovery. It reduces the number of people who can qualify and also reduces the amount of house you get for the same payment dollar. Also, other debt instruments - credit cards, car load, student loans, etc. are based on the T-note rate. The rippling effect of the increase - particularly so much too fast will kill the recovery.


11 posted on 09/05/2013 11:06:34 AM PDT by HonorInPa
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To: Ghost of SVR4

This is the benchmark rate, on which such things as mortgages and credit cards are based. When it goes up, borrowing costs for Americans follow suit.


12 posted on 09/05/2013 11:08:25 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

At 3% a lot of market type folks will panic. As stated it is a psychological barrier. It indicates that not as many people are buying T bills. When sales of US backed bonds fall off it is bad. Think of what gets financed by the sale of those bonds. Think of the ramifications. QE4. QE5....which triggers rampant inflation. And unfortunately...probably without any kind of deflationary cycle to precede it. I’ve been kind of counting on that before the dollar goes into the crapper.


13 posted on 09/05/2013 11:10:38 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: Mr. K
So why not just not pay back the Federal Reserve? I know that all kinds of charts and graphs and important addresses can "explain" it to me. All I see is already very rich elitists losing out; I'm sure they'll still find a way to excel at making money.

Meanwhile, the middle class is being starved. Nobody can save for future retirements. Those who are retired are spending principal, when they should've been able to count of at least 4% interest on savings....all money that would go directly into the economy.

Besides that, higher interest rates on mortgages might make them more available. Sellers will adjust the price, and the new owners might even make out with that interest being tax deductible.

The economy is stagnant. The rich are getting their wealth and power concentrated. And the little guy can't catch a break. So tell me where this low interest rate economy has helped us.

14 posted on 09/05/2013 11:10:42 AM PDT by grania
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To: central_va
As an expert

Who said I was an expert?

15 posted on 09/05/2013 11:12:26 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: NVDave

The market will slosh when the half of the $85 billion PER MONTH the government buys equities with goes away. Half a trillion per year OUT of the market on a day to day basis


16 posted on 09/05/2013 11:13:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: grania

I remember some idiot Democrat saying that the national debt was not that bad because it was money we owe ourselves... and if someone owes you a few billion dollars then that’s not so bad


17 posted on 09/05/2013 11:17:24 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Deo volente

After patting themselves on the back in one of the most embarrassing displays I have ever seen (where Liesman makes a call that looked right for about an hour, only to be spectacularly wrong by the end of the day), the clown that is Cramer assured us that we would see 2.65 well before we would see 3.00 on the 10 year, dismissing the notion that rates could rise. But they will. And, IMHO, there isn’t going to be much resistance at 3.


18 posted on 09/05/2013 11:19:04 AM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: grania

A lot of the homes sold right now in southern California are being bought by wealthy Chinese industrialists and tycoons, as business investments. When the media trumpets the so-called recovery in housing, one needs to look beneath the surface at where the money is coming from.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/08/real_estate/chinese-homebuyers/index.html


19 posted on 09/05/2013 11:19:47 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: jjsheridan5

Cramer told his viewers in February of 2000 to buy and hold a bunch of dot.com and tech companies, most of which began to crash the following month.

And he’s still on the air 13 years later. Incredible.


20 posted on 09/05/2013 11:22:28 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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