Skip to comments.Something 'very fishy' about this Syria thing [Vanity]
Posted on 09/03/2013 11:45:11 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
I've got that same funny feeling about Obama's Syria threat that I've had during other events in recent months.
Right now we're seeing a highly visible 'public hearing' over the issue of Syria.. Why not another IRS scandal hearing, or Benghazi hearing or another hearing on the DOJ spying on Fox news? Obama and Congress seem to have whipped up a Syria hearing rather quickly, so what's the problem with doing so on these other issues? I smell a RAT!
Why does Obama want to start a war with Syria and possibly the entire region? What is the REAL reason for him doing this? I'm not sure, but I DO know that a military strike will bury just about every other news item for the next few weeks and I feel THAT is what this is all about.
In the next few weeks the Muslim Brotherhood will be on trial in Egypt. There's been talk that Obama is a Muslim Brotherhood MEMBER. Is THAT what Obama is trying to bury in the news? Or perhaps that Benghazi was a hostage-taking of Stevens planned by Hillary, so as to give Obama a reason to release the Blind Sheik to the MB? Why did McCain and Graham fly to Egypt to meet with the MB??? Was there a pay off made to keep them silent about Obama's involvement with them, or possibly his involvement in the 'hostage-taking gone bad' in Benghazi?
Something is very fishy about this Syria thing. Something's not right. Just as Obama called for Mubarak to step down for the MB to take his place, Obama is now asking Assad to step down for Al Qaeda to take his place?
We're looking at some serious 'wag the dog' here, folks. The GOP is on board with Obama although there is little to no evidence Assad is responsible for the chemical attack. We're being told there's no doubt chemical weapons were used, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN ASSAD IS THE ONE WHO DISPERSED THEM!!! It is entirely possible that those (Al Qaeda) who rip the hearts out of their enemy and EAT them would kill their own to get Obama to fight their war for them!!!
Obama supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt is something NO CHRISTIAN PRESIDENT WOULD DO. The Muslim Brotherhood has torched numerous Coptic Christian churches to the ground and Obama has said NOTHING about this. The culprits are the ones he's funded and supported. Asking the man who has honored a peace treaty with Israel to STEP DOWN is something NO CHRISTIAN PRESIDENT WOULD DO.
Suddenly, we are expected to believe that Obama's motives are just for his desired action in Syria? Based on his FAILURES in Egypt, Libya and elsewhere.. Hell no, and HELL NO!!
..you might be right, A week ago I thought Benghazi was ready to blow. We started to hear more and more from overseas....and Hilda went underground in a hurry
The British and the German and the French and the Israeli intelligence services have all said that Assad did it based on the information they have collected. I don't blame you for being skeptical about the NSA or the CIA, but not all those foreign services as well.
All the above is the reason.
Much of what you say is true, and very worrisome.
But, all of that aside, it is only recently that Obama, Rice, and H. Clinton, lied to us in the most baldfaced manner that it was an internet video that motivated events in Benghazi. Obama even broadcast that lie in a speech to the UN.
Even if we can’t get at the truth behind Benghazi right now, how can anyone believe anything that comes out of his mouth, or from the rest of the leadership agreeing with him?
And, although we support out troops, how can we be behind a President who is quite likely to be misusing them for his own secret ends?
“There are thirty-two ways to write a story, and I’ve used every one, but there is only one plot — things are not as they seem.” — Jim Thompson
If America is involved in something, then something shady is going on, and that is all there is to it.
If Al Qaeda was taking over here, I’m not sure I would see using chems as a bad thing either. But if we are winning they way they say Assad is, not sure why I would feel the need. I think maybe the rebels did something with them first and he retaliated in kind myself.
Does anyone know the REAL reason for this Syria travesty? We are being LIED TO, AGAIN, and I want to know WHY.
Aww come on. You answered your own question in the vanity you posted. It is indeed a wag the dog scenario.
Lather, Rinse, Repeat.
Obammie’s answer to every scandal or crisis is to create a new and different crisis to divert attention away from his previous scandal. Read Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. Its Obammie’s modus operandi.
Whats going on in Syria is no worse than the genocide ongoing in Egypt. Except there its CHRISTIANS being slaughtered. So - no big deal, right?
Also of note is that Hillary detached herself just shortly
before this particular State Department crisis & failure.
Just an observation.
No one can know but I highly suspect this is #3927 in his play book on How to Destroy America. Everything he has touched over the past 5 years has withered and turned into a rotting monster. Look at every scandal, the economy, health care, employment and hours being cut, food an agriculture, housing, now he’s messing with college education, he’s lost us allies, we’ve lost countless freedoms and most importantly privacy, he’s cost us lives of civilians by is open door border policies, he’s cost the lives of our troops, he’s corrupted our local police and made us afraid of our military, we’re frightened of our out of control government, etc. It’s all been part of the plan.
I'm not sure I want to be in the "we" part of either side of the issue. Assad or the rebels, there isn't a bit of difference between the two. No matter which side wins, the U.S. loses.
Nothing like a war to distract from a lethargic economy, tenuous health care reform, and at least four scandals.
Foreign wars are an old political ploy for getting the people’s attention off of the local problems.
Anyone remember the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964, when N. Vietnamese Patrol boats allegedly attacked a USN intelligence gathering ship?
LBJ used this supposed incident to get Congress’s approval to
attack N. Vietnam. It turned out it never happened. But it led to 8 years of our involvement in Vietnam and 58K names on the Vietnam Memorial in Wash. D.C.
The French have said only a few hundred killed????
Because it worked before, mass graves of Muslims in Serbia (that were empty), the Tonkin Gulf incident (that wasn't), the neutral passenger Lusitania (that was carrying munitions), it never ends.
There is a lot more to this Syria debacle than what meets the eye or goes into the ear. I will believe until proved otherwise that big money is involved and that involves oil and gold on the part of known nefarious persons.
Distraction from domestic/Benghazi scandals, while assisting the ME Caliphate?
Don't forget the Kuwaiti babies being thrown out of incubators (never happened)
All reasoning points to our government is lying to us....again. This dog is too big to ignore. May that tail brush aside the fog. This administration has lied to US so many times about so many things.
The possibility of a war always grabs all the attention away from everything else. “Wag the Dog” is a very popular way for Presidents to pull cover.
“Why?” Your guess is as good as any. Seriously.
Just remember that all of the “evidence” is being presented
by the same people who told us that Benghazi was caused by a video.
Why? Are you kidding? If this country is at war, Obama wins on every issue without winning the mid-term election.
Let’s start with the debt limit. No debt limit because we are at war.
Obamacare defunding - might shut down the government, including the war effort.
Immigration- The president needs everyone’s support, now especially, and besides the immigrants would help fill the ranks of the military for a war weary country with gays serving openly.
There are a number of reasons for those who want war. The importance of which, depends on who you are (O, Congress, Bankers, Mil/Ind Complex, Brotherhood, Iran, Israel, Saudis, Russia, China, and etc.).
The one you’ve mentioned (Wag the Dog), is certainly high on O’s list. For the Saudis and Israel, it’s Iran. For the Mil/Ind Complex, it’s more money. For the Banker’s is a distraction from their theft and failing fiat. For other countries, it’s control of the oil. Etc.
It’s not just one thing, or one group wanting war, and that’s why a grand war is very likely, IMO.
Start a war, blow up the middle east,stop the flow of oil, start a bigger war, raise the price of oil for those that can get it and defeat those that can’t. Get debt forgiveness in exchange for oil, get new economy started etc...
This is what happens when you borrow more money than you could ever pay back, just start a war, defeat your debt holder and erase it.
Said a long time ago, the only way out of the financial mess we are in would be a global war, this may be the start of it.
But why is a Syrian dead baby worth more to 0bama than the numerous babies he’s killed with drones in Pakistan?
Means something was going to come out that would reflect badly or be highly damaging to Zero.
So, deflect and redirect the outrage to something outrageous.
A fraud takes over America . The goal is to destroy America by destroying Capitalism, the U.S. economy, creating the largest welfare state in history, destroy our borders, killing whites, destroying the military. And installing a communist regime. Misson Accomplished!
Free Trader Globalist Communists in both parties....there is no difference
Oh yeah I forgot. Be ready for some type of gas attack here in the USA sometime soon. If that won’t get the ball rollin, nothing will.
Then again maybe I just watched to many episodes of 24!
Well, no I wasn't kidding. You make my point very well though, and I appreciate it. Wag the Dog knocks everything else off the table, which would be a big "win" for the Big Ears.
It sure has diverted attention from the “scandals”, and immigration “reform” will be passed with no media coverage.
Why wouldn’t they? There is so much collusion among the Western governments. I think all the intelligence services report what they are told to report.
It’s probably all about the natural gas pipeline and who controls it anyway.
We have no business going in there, no matter who did it. There is no national security interest. It is sad and horrible, whoever did it, but we cannot protect every citizen of the world from evil tyrants, that is not our job as a nation. We need to stop trying (or pretending that’s our mission).
At least Assad doesn’t persecute Christians.
And finally are we OUT OF OUR MINDS to be going in on the side of the MB and al Queda? It’s totally insane that 12 years after 9-11-2001 we are fighting alongside the terrorist group that killed 3000 Americans.
What a bunch of treasonous traitors we have running our country.
Then, we shoved Ghadaffi out into the street unprotected, to be butt-raped and killed.
Then, we arrested his wife who was leaving the country with a large entourage (cargo planes).
Next up... all of a sudden Assad, who was our 'ally' is the target of more Cruise Missile Attacks.
Follow the money. Specifically, pure gold bars with no tungsten filling.
Shame on you, you forgot to mention our ally Mubarak.
We still have no reason to get involved. Especially on the side of Al Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood.
When this mess started last week I went to Wikipedia to refresh my memory on the GoT Incident because I thought it wreaked of a similar odor. The entry contained conflicting info but did specify that the incident (there were 2) occurred over 2 days. Apparently the 2nd incident didn't happen. Wiki has pictures of the NV PT boats attacking the U.S.S. Maddox in the 1st incident. Fog of war. Still wreakes after all these decades. 17
The consortium of Western Allies BANKERS (known to most of us as the FEDERAL RESERVE) which includes members from Britain, Germany, and France (not to mention other 'allies') are saying this because, THEY WANT THEIR DAMN GOLD BACK.
It's about the money. It's always about the money.
Why, after the 'rebels' overthrew Ghadaffi did they form a new NATIONAL LIBYAN BANK, rather than a new GOVERNMENT ?
"There are no Sunni's or Shiites. There are no Republicans or Democrats. There are only HAVES or HAVE NOTS. You are either on the inside, or the out."
Ghadaffi could have sent the Gold anywhere he thought we couldn't invade. Mubarak was a sacrifice to find out that it wasn't Egypt.
Diversionary tactics all over again. Especially when you are beginning to see that our own government probably is complicit in this whole thing. Benghazi? I’ve got a war to fight. McCain and Graham need to be put in straight jackets and their mouths muzzled. WHY are they giving THIS president cover? We are asking the WRONG questions here.
And, is it me, or is anyone else also getting the same feeling that the GOPe is sticking their 3rd finger in the air at we conservatives. We need to make such a response that they understand that we are not just talking this time, that we have taken enough and are serious about a 3rd party RIGHT NOW. At some point, and it needs to be SOON, we have to act, quit talking and act. Enough of this equivocating. They are laughing all the way to the bank!
No argument there.
I strongly agree that there has to be something much, much bigger behind this Syria issue that a single CW attack, or even CW use in general. It is something that for some reason we dare not speak its name, and has to be disguised with all manner of diversionary and alternative excuses. Bogus on their face. The effect is sort of like black hole, invisible and undetectable except for the gravitational effects it has on other bodies.
What could it be? I find it simply unpersuasive that this is just political “wag the dog” theater to distract form US domestic issues. There are too many foreign governments on edge as well about whatever this thing is. The Republican leadership is being prompted to fall in line behind this overwhelmingly unpopular threat of US military action. There has to be some REAL threat to international peace and stability and US national interests at stake to justify this level of war preparation, not to mention the costly effort already under way to “regime change” Syria.
My hunch: China. In the nuclear age, head-to-head confrontations (or even the appearance thereof) between superpowers has to be avoided at all costs. So everyone ties themselves up in a pretzel knot of lies and diversions to hide the fact such might be the case. The world would just go nuts otherwise.
Indeed, a persuasive case has been made that the reason GW Bush concocted the WMD thing as a pretext for invading Iraq in 2003 was to avoid mentioning the real reason for that action. That was to block what would certainly be Chinese occupation of several massive oil fields in Iraq under Saddam-era concessions as soon as UN sanctions would have been lifted at the end of 2003, hence running afoul of the Carter Doctrine. You can look it up: http://www.amazon.com/Oil-Card-Economic-Warfare-Century/dp/097779539X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199719101&sr=8-1
The Chinese have been hell bent on establishing client state relationships around the world, especially in the Middle East and North Africa and where there are oil or other resources. Syria doesn’t have (much) oil, but it’s in the right neighborhood and it is one of the few really strategic places left where the Chinese have much of a chance to make headway in this quest. Note that all of its other would-be clients in that region have one way or another been removed from the order of battle by the US inspired and led Arab Spring movement or other disruptive intervention.
Prime among those was Libya, where NATO held up its bombing campaign for several days to allow a massive evacuation of some 36,000 Chinese nationals including the huge crew from Huwai that was rebuilding Muamar’s communications infrastructure (hint: that’s strategic business). Sudan, China’s first client in that zone, has been crippled and split with a Western-backed civil war. Egypt, another likely China friend target, was taken off the boards with Mubarak’s removal. Yemen is a continuing basket case. Iran remains in the global doghouse, in part for doing bidness with the wrong people (China).
You don’t hear much about China in Syria. Beijing has no doubt redoubled its efforts to stay below the radar screen this time. But consider this: in 2007 the Israeli air force bombed a suspected nuclear weapons development site in Syria. It was suspected of having been built with Chinese and N Korean (i.e., more Chinese) hardware. Syrian and China kept mum about the disaster. A few months later the Chinese announced plans to build a 100,000 b/d oil refinery on or near the site. China is now Syria’s largest trade partner (maybe no big deal in itself) but who knows what else they are collaborating on since Assad’s visit to Beijing in 2004. (BTW, news today was that Beijing will host a visit from Assad’s envoy Sep 5.)
Now consider the effects of a nuclear-armed Syria, with the region’s largest army, sitting next door to Turkey, Israel, Iraq and a stone’s throw from Saudi Arabia. Allied with Iran and fronting for the Chinese, with their longstanding benefactors the Russians running interference, Syria would be a North Korea on steroids, sitting smack dab in the middle of things.
Thus, there has been an all-out effort over the past several years to derail that development and now that time is running short and things have gone badly for the West, the project has to be escalated.
All this is just to offer some explanation of events, explain why otherwise sane and responsible people might be doing crazy things on the flimsiest of nominal excuses, and can’t bring themselves to say what’s really going on.
That stakes, however, could indeed be very, very high.
There have been reports that members of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt:
- Have evidence that Obama ordered/coordinated the attack on the Benghazi consulate
- That Obama is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.
If either of these have any credibility whatsoever, it is possible that Obama is being blackmailed to support the Muslim extremists (MB or AQ) in Syria.
But even if this isn’t the case, I agree with you that something is real fishy here.