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Syria: John Kerry slaps Britain in face as he calls France 'oldest allies'
telegraph.co.uk ^

Posted on 08/30/2013 2:18:25 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Syria: John Kerry slaps Britain in face as he calls France 'oldest allies'

John Kerry delivers diplomatic slap in the face to Britain, failing to mention them among list of supporters and referring to France as "oldest allies".

By Peter Foster, Washington

7:17PM BST 30 Aug 2013

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John Kerry administered a diplomatic slap in the face to Britain following David Cameron's withdrawal of military support for intervention in Syria, omitting the UK from a long list of 'friends' prepared to support US actions against the Assad regime.

The diplomatic smart was made worse by Mr Kerry's pointed reference to the French as "our oldest ally" – a reference that dates back to France's role supporting America against Britain in the American Revolutionary War that began in 1776.

"It matters here if nothing is done. It matters if the world speaks out in condemnation and then nothing happens," said Mr Kerry less than 24 hours after the Commons vote that forced Mr Cameron to renege on his offer to support US action.

"America should feel confident and gratified that we are not alone in our condemnation and we are not alone in our will to do something about it and to act," added Mr Kerry, making an impassioned case that the world could walk on by in the face of Assad's use of chemical weapons.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; france; johnkerry; kerrysyria; massachusetts; unitedkingdom
That's diplomacy for ya folks!
1 posted on 08/30/2013 2:18:25 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Eh? France wasn’t a US ally in our war of independence?


2 posted on 08/30/2013 2:20:06 PM PDT by null and void (Bush: Cowboy Diplomacy. Obama: Rodeo Clown Diplomacy.)
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To: Sub-Driver

and punches above their weight ,D’oh


3 posted on 08/30/2013 2:20:54 PM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Sub-Driver
How about when France refused us overflight rights when we attacked Khadaffi in Libya?
4 posted on 08/30/2013 2:21:12 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, he’s technically right.


5 posted on 08/30/2013 2:22:05 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: null and void

Well, yes, they were. The French have been allies with the US pretty much since day one.


6 posted on 08/30/2013 2:22:08 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: null and void
Well, yes. Lurch is actually right for once.

I believe there were a number of countries which recognized our independence before Great Britain did: Netherlands, Spain, Poland, Prussia and maybe even Morocco.

7 posted on 08/30/2013 2:22:22 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Not diplomatic, but at least for once he’s not wrong.


8 posted on 08/30/2013 2:22:30 PM PDT by Glenmore
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To: Sub-Driver

Even Hillary! wouldn’t be this stupid.
What brainless fools we have for a government.


9 posted on 08/30/2013 2:23:12 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Sub-Driver

He is correct, though still a horse faced chucklehead. France has been an ally of the U.S. since the revolution. They are not are most ardent ally, but our oldest.


10 posted on 08/30/2013 2:23:22 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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11 posted on 08/30/2013 2:23:52 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Sub-Driver

France was our ally when we were fighting for our Independence from, “wait for it”, Great Britain. So he’s right about that. They certainly haven’t been our best ally of late, that title has belonged to the Muslim Brotherhood ever since Obama sent back that bust of Churchill.


12 posted on 08/30/2013 2:24:17 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Sub-Driver

Let’s see how many Algerians the French put in harm’s way.


13 posted on 08/30/2013 2:25:04 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: null and void
Technically, the broken clock is correct. Practically speaking, however, ....

So, JF'nK chalks up another FP win for BHO.

14 posted on 08/30/2013 2:25:06 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Sub-Driver
Paris France is where John Hanoi Kerry met with the North Vietnamese to get his marching orders in the 70’s.
15 posted on 08/30/2013 2:25:12 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

True. True. True.

Of course, the reason the French supported the US in it’s earliest stages was in the hopes of distracting the British from all of the fighting on the continent.

Enemy of my enemy is my friend.


16 posted on 08/30/2013 2:26:26 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Our Oldest Enemy: A History of America's Disastrous Relationship with France
by John J. Miller and Mark Molesky

link

17 posted on 08/30/2013 2:29:05 PM PDT by Flag_This (Term limits.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

The thing about diplomacy is you try not to burn
your bridges before you cross them.

Kerry could have said a few simple words about British
support coming after the UN’s findings but no.

The damage this administration is doing will last decades.


18 posted on 08/30/2013 2:29:50 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I heard a story that when DeGaulle called to tell President Johnson France was pulling out of NATO and he wanted all US soldiers off French soil, Johnson asked him, “does that apply to our war dead, too”?


19 posted on 08/30/2013 2:30:49 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Sub-Driver

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Ih 1664 we were Englishmen...

From 1664 until 1775 we as Englishmen fought the French on US soil just about every year for those 100+ years...

My Irish born Englishman ancestor was killed by the French and Indians at Lake George in 1755..His FIL fought the French in 1711...

Except for 2 short periods 1775-1783 and 1812-1814...about 10 years ...when we fought major battles against the English crown...

we have been allies ...sometimes best chums and sometimes cautiously...but allies..

maybe Carry is referring to Jefferson and his French naturality and how close we must be to France because of that...

Mon Dieu


20 posted on 08/30/2013 2:37:49 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Sub-Driver

needless (and pointless) insults of our allies...(as well as leaking their defense secrets to the mass media in order to weaken or undercut them...)

they must be teaching something new in Diplomacy class these days?


21 posted on 08/30/2013 2:44:40 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: Tennessee Nana

We also fought a Quasi-War with the French during their Revolution. 1798 to 1800.


22 posted on 08/30/2013 2:45:17 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: null and void

They gave some support.


23 posted on 08/30/2013 2:49:47 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

When I think about it, they didn’t support us against the Brits because they liked us. They just hated the Brits so much more.


24 posted on 08/30/2013 2:51:56 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: null and void
Technically correct.

However that was about six changes of government ago.

25 posted on 08/30/2013 2:56:47 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: Sub-Driver

he is correct in calling them our oldest

they are also our first national enemy, too


26 posted on 08/30/2013 2:59:35 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: Sub-Driver
Lurch conveniently forgets that Degaule (sp) wouldn’t allow NATO to have it’s hdqs in France
27 posted on 08/30/2013 3:11:55 PM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 83)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Had I been in their situation I might have done the same. No one likes to be involved in something but kept in the dark.


28 posted on 08/30/2013 3:12:44 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, it’s the first true thing I’ve heard him say in a while. And besides, this bunch slaps UK every chance they get.


29 posted on 08/30/2013 3:14:00 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Uncle Miltie: Obama poisoned race relations for a generation. Everything is racial now.)
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To: mountainlion
“Paris France is where John Hanoi Kerry met with the North Vietnamese to get his marching orders in the 70’s.”

Stop with your Wingnut propaganda. John Kerry met with both sides in Paris. The North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong!

30 posted on 08/30/2013 3:28:30 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: HenpeckedCon
Stop with your Wingnut propaganda.

Probably the Viet Meim, Chicoms and some real radicals.

31 posted on 08/30/2013 3:31:10 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: HenpeckedCon
John Kerry met with both sides in Paris. The North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong!

*giggle*

32 posted on 08/30/2013 3:33:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sub-Driver

France was the Confederacy’s best ally providing the south with arms during the war for states rights.


33 posted on 08/30/2013 3:35:02 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I think Morocco was first - I think they were proud of that at Epcot.


34 posted on 08/30/2013 4:44:08 PM PDT by eCSMaster (Palin was right (again)!)
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To: eCSMaster
You're right. I looked it up. They actually beat France to the punch in 1777.

As you may know, Morocco was officially during World War II, but allowed American troops to land there and use it as a base to push into North Africa. General George S. Patton loved the Moroccans for that reason.

35 posted on 08/30/2013 7:08:21 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Sub-Driver, but he's not wrong.
John Kerry administered a diplomatic slap in the face to Britain following David Cameron's withdrawal of military support for intervention in Syria, omitting the UK from a long list of 'friends' prepared to support US actions against the Assad regime.
Listing the UK when the UK Parliament said no would have been false and would have called attention to the fact. Naturally a UK paper would bring this up, probably for reasons of partisan advocacy.


36 posted on 09/02/2013 5:24:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So this is “nuance” in action.


37 posted on 09/02/2013 6:38:26 PM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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