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Democrats attempting to revive push to tax the heck out of guns and ammunition
Hot Air ^ | August 27, 2013 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 08/27/2013 1:31:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve never been a fan of any form of sin taxes, so called because our august lawmakers deem a particular behavior a vice and then try to ramp up the taxes on its perpetrators to supposedly pay for the cost of the behavior on society at large, but the idea that law-abiding, gun-owning citizens need to pay for the sins of what are overwhelmingly not law-abiding and probably not tax-paying criminals… really just takes the cake of stupid.

But no way is that stopping a couple of Congressional Democrats from fixing to propose even steeper taxes on the lawful purchasers of handguns and ammunition and supposedly funnel the revenue to ‘gun violence prevention.’ Via Fox News:

Called the “Gun Violence Prevention and Safe Communities Act,” the bill sponsored by William Pascrell, D-N.J., and Danny Davis, D-Ill., would nearly double the current 11 percent tax on handguns, while raising the levy on bullets and cartridges from 11 percent to 50 percent. …

The lawmakers say the bill would generate $600 million per year, which would be used to fund law-enforcement and gun violence prevention. …

The bill would also increase the transfer tax on all weapons (except antique guns) covered under the National Firearms Act (which excludes most common guns) from $200 to $500 and index to inflation and increase the transfer tax for any other weapon from $5 to $100. …

“This legislation is a pro-active approach to reducing gun violence by using proven preventive programs which have been starved for funds until now,” Davis said. “As part of a comprehensive, multidimensional strategy to reduce gun violence, this legislation closes major loopholes in tax law and lays out an equitable, long term, sustainable strategy to provide the requisite resources.”

Yes, by all means, let’s add yet another regressive barrier to home- and self-defense, so that even more people will be completely dependent on the police for protection, in order to help offset the costs of law enforcement! …Anyone? Anyone?

It’s no surprise that Davis represents a portion of Chicago, whose own “long term, sustainable strategy to provide the requisite resources” for violence prevention has been a direct cause of skyrocketing murder rates but still seems to insist for more gun control as the answer.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; congress; democrats; guncontrol; secondamendment; taxes
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1 posted on 08/27/2013 1:31:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great. Another run on ammo. We just got done with the last one.


2 posted on 08/27/2013 1:33:20 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need quality abortion, in order to safeguard women and protect against JUNK abortions.

Why do we not have a BATF to check paperwork for abortion clinics...?

Why no wait periods..? Why no KNOWLEDGE QUIZ...? Why no abortion purchase permit card...?


3 posted on 08/27/2013 1:33:36 PM PDT by gaijin
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4 posted on 08/27/2013 1:33:53 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 1rudeboy

Not quite, there is still no 22LR in Wisconsin


5 posted on 08/27/2013 1:34:31 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does Homeland Security get taxed, too with their billions of rounds?


6 posted on 08/27/2013 1:35:22 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: gaijin

First only 1 abortion per 1 year.

What? You’re not an EXTREMIST, right? Show us you’re non-partisan.

Then, later it’s 1 abortion per 3 years.

And so on, continually.

Hey abortion is NOT in the Constitution.

Not at all.


7 posted on 08/27/2013 1:35:31 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: CMailBag

It’s available, maybe not at your price.


8 posted on 08/27/2013 1:35:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pascrell was once mayor of that cesspool of urban blight called Paterson New Jersey. The other clown is from Illinois - and that probably means Chicago as it controls the state.

Instead of a tax on firearms, if they were really concerned about urban violence, they would impose a special tax on the male organs of the inhabitants thereof as their
profligate use of the same generates masses of un-parented offspring which are the sources of this gun violence. They could use the proceeds to distribute free condoms. THAT would go a lot further towards controlling violence in the inner cities.


9 posted on 08/27/2013 1:36:17 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's good to know the criminals won't be able to afford guns and ammo anymore. /s

10 posted on 08/27/2013 1:37:07 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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11 posted on 08/27/2013 1:38:09 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: CMailBag

I saw three boxes of 22 shorts in Colorado two weeks ago.


12 posted on 08/27/2013 1:39:19 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Der Democratic Party Furher Obama ischt niche hindern (dissuaded).


13 posted on 08/27/2013 1:42:39 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: wac3rd

“Does Homeland Security get taxed, too with their billions of rounds?”

Governments are tax exempt. Weirdly, though, when my company sold military hardware to the Australian Navy, it was taxed by the Australian government...We were cautioned to figure the tax into the sales price...


14 posted on 08/27/2013 1:43:07 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Republicans had a hair on their butts, they would respond each time with a proposal to place a $50,000 Dead Baby Tax on every abortion.


15 posted on 08/27/2013 1:43:33 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: CMailBag

“Not quite, there is still no 22LR in Wisconsin”

Bought some a week ago on line at Midway.


16 posted on 08/27/2013 1:44:02 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We should start getting all of our guns and ammo from Mexico, totally unregulated by the United States Government.

Maybe then, the Dems would be troubled by the open border policy?


17 posted on 08/27/2013 1:45:46 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Constitution guarantees (NOT gives) you the right to keep and bear arms. Arms include ammunition else the gun is useless. They should be completely free of any federal taxes. Not one bit different than having to pay a poll tax. Actually, I’m wrong; it is different. Voting is not a God-given right. Self protection is.


18 posted on 08/27/2013 1:50:50 PM PDT by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing new. They have been trying this for many years.


19 posted on 08/27/2013 1:52:41 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Like this will stop gun violence. The worst thing is this will NOT make these idiots feel good for any length of time. Useless, waste of time and resources for everyone brought to you by the self righteous boneheads.


20 posted on 08/27/2013 1:59:57 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...really just takes the cake of stupid.”

Aside from being both unconstitutional and, therefore, illegal.

But when has the constitution ever mattered to our congressional betters?


21 posted on 08/27/2013 2:07:50 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not enough Democrats to get it even close.


22 posted on 08/27/2013 2:21:45 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Thy Kingdom come!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The lawmakers say the bill would generate $600 million per year, which would be used to fund law-enforcement and gun violence prevention."

ROFL!!!! Where have we heard bullshit like this before? (think - Tobacco taxes)

23 posted on 08/27/2013 2:26:29 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Democrats pushed the poll tax once upon a time too.


24 posted on 08/27/2013 2:30:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the past it worked to defeat behavioral modification taxation by calling it “sin taxes.” This is fundalmentalist fanatics imposing their morals on the public. It is anti-American and anti-Constitutional to do that according to the communists (DNC).

Most ministers/churches are for liberalism’s sin taxes. Do an ad campaign with ministers and Christians all saying taxes on tabacco and guns as behavioral control, etc is holy. Plenty of left wing ministers, Rabbis and Imans would get their mugs on the camera if they thought it was supporting a liberal cause. Devil weed!

Devil butt action is the biggest health hazard and expense around. Tax butt f’ ing if sin tax is really for health care saving and not for moral high ground not for religious fanitics.


25 posted on 08/27/2013 2:44:22 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Marcella
Bought some a week ago on line at Midway.

By some, do you mean more than 100 rounds?

When it is available we are limited to one box, sometimes they have a brick of 325, or 500, but no CCI stuff.

26 posted on 08/27/2013 3:40:18 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Very regressive, indeed. But they’re doing this to health care under the common folk radar, so action is needed.


27 posted on 08/27/2013 4:03:39 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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28 posted on 08/27/2013 4:20:55 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Then we tax speech. Right?


29 posted on 08/27/2013 4:54:51 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: 1rudeboy

.10 to .14 cents/round if you can find any in Hoosierland.


30 posted on 08/27/2013 5:01:50 PM PDT by digger48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tax out of buying them so they can purchase them and give them to the various branches of the Imperial Federal Government who have no need for weapons or ammo. Why the IRS or NASA or CDC needs guns and ammo to do their jobs is beyond me. I think it is building Obama’s private army within the government.


31 posted on 08/27/2013 5:08:50 PM PDT by RetiredArmy ("As in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of Man." Come Quickly LORD Jesus!)
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To: itsahoot

Got a box of 375 rounds, 22LR, CCI MiniMag (copper plated hollow points) for $23.99.


32 posted on 08/27/2013 5:15:49 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Democrats attempting to revive push to tax the heck out of guns and ammunition

This would be a clear infingement of the right to keep and bear arms, just like if Republicans attempted to impose oppressive taxes on newspapers it would be an infringement of the right to freedom of speech.

33 posted on 08/27/2013 5:23:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RetiredArmy

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


34 posted on 08/27/2013 5:26:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

not surprised its their modern day version of a poll tax.


35 posted on 08/27/2013 6:50:05 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (EVERYTHING IS RACISM!!! except hating whitey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For me, this is the Tea Act.


36 posted on 08/27/2013 7:02:25 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is it frying pan time again?


37 posted on 08/27/2013 7:54:29 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

I propose it to be a sin tax to be a liberal democrat...

The revenue generated could be used to repay all the legal fees for conservative groups trying to get their 501c3 staus...


38 posted on 08/27/2013 7:58:22 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: ZULU

Retrograde genocide??? (snicker)

Brilliant!!! ;-)


39 posted on 08/27/2013 8:02:48 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: SampleMan

They’d end up plucking that one hair anyway...


40 posted on 08/27/2013 8:04:22 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Jack Hammer

Dumber than a bag of hammers...

Sorry Jack...;-)

Couldn’t resist...


41 posted on 08/27/2013 8:07:16 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Hugh the Scot

Clever!!!


42 posted on 08/27/2013 8:08:44 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Hugh the Scot

So does this mean we need to dump perfectly good ammo into Boston Harbor???


43 posted on 08/27/2013 8:10:51 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why not?

Conservative leaders sat on asses giving these people everything else.

But hey, they got to act like the smartest people in the room right? :)


44 posted on 08/27/2013 8:28:56 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well we need a poll tax to stop people who vote for these morons from doing further violence to our republic.


45 posted on 08/27/2013 11:58:54 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: stevie_d_64

Just another in a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same object...


46 posted on 08/28/2013 2:30:05 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
bring back the poll tax...
47 posted on 08/28/2013 4:43:02 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!

48 posted on 08/28/2013 5:17:51 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The possibility that these people will be re-elected by the hardcore fourty-per-centers is absolutlely amazing.

(Not to mention the Independents who like to consider themselves brilliant, who are swayed by the slightest breeze to vote Progressive.)

IMHO


49 posted on 08/28/2013 5:49:35 AM PDT by ripley
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To: ripley

I have a slight breeze I’d like to send in the general direction of progressives...


50 posted on 08/30/2013 1:59:06 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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