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Farmers' Almanac predicts colder-than-normal winter for most of US
Fox News ^ | August 26, 2013 | Associated Press

Posted on 08/26/2013 5:45:05 AM PDT by citizen

The Farmers' Almanac is using words like "piercing cold," ''bitterly cold" and "biting cold" to describe the upcoming winter. And if its predictions are right, the first outdoor Super Bowl in years will be a messy "Storm Bowl."

The 197-year-old publication that hits newsstands Monday predicts a winter storm will hit the Northeast around the time the Super Bowl is played at MetLife Stadium in the Meadowlands in New Jersey. It also predicts a colder-than-normal winter for two-thirds of the country and heavy snowfall in the Midwest, Great Lakes and New England.

"We're using a very strong four-letter word to describe this winter, which is C-O-L-D. It's going to be very cold," said Sandi Duncan, managing editor.

Based on planetary positions, sunspots and lunar cycles, the almanac's secret formula is largely unchanged since founder David Young published the first almanac in 1818.

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KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming; iceage; snow; weather
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More and more evidence mounts day-by-day that we may be on the verge of "climate change" of a different sort than the glo-bull warmists screech about. Based on reduced energy from the sun, as evidenced by waning sunspots, we may be in for another Little Ice Age like 400 or so years ago.

Some Russsian scientists are predicting this will last for 200 years. My question is how would they know if the period of reduced solar energy will last for only 200 years? Why not 10 or 12 thousand like the major ice ages?

I guess it doesn't much matter the length. If it's cold during your life and your children's life, all you can do is deal with it.

1 posted on 08/26/2013 5:45:05 AM PDT by citizen
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To: citizen

Yup, just like last year and the year before. Oh, and once again, this hurricane season will be the worst we’ve ever seen.


2 posted on 08/26/2013 5:47:06 AM PDT by YourAdHere (If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon's lawyer.)
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To: citizen


3 posted on 08/26/2013 5:49:08 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: citizen
always those guys.
4 posted on 08/26/2013 5:50:27 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: citizen
always those guys.
5 posted on 08/26/2013 5:50:27 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: citizen

Fine by me. Love the cold.

Could sleep in mid 40 degree outside and be comfortable.


6 posted on 08/26/2013 5:51:37 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: YourAdHere

Actually, according to this article it is the >>
Slowest Start To A Hurricane Season On Record
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/08/24/slowest-start-to-a-hurricane-season-on-record/


7 posted on 08/26/2013 5:52:41 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: citizen

I can’t say that The Farmer’s Almanac has a strong statistical association with predictive weather patterns, but NOAA isn’t much better.


8 posted on 08/26/2013 5:53:19 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: citizen
Large picture of man-bear-pig’s face on Al Jaeera with the caption:

OOPS!

9 posted on 08/26/2013 5:54:47 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: citizen

The Russians have been running their weather war machine for decades. The “Russian Woodpecker” continued during the worse part of their economic collapse. Meanwhile our “HARP” system seems quiet. The Russians would have a better outlook on weather than our Gore Bull warming cult.


10 posted on 08/26/2013 5:54:54 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: citizen

And people thought that when Obama talked about this being the time that the seas receded and the climate change began to reverse, he was just blowing smoke....


11 posted on 08/26/2013 5:55:52 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: citizen

Cold in winter?? Who would have thought.


12 posted on 08/26/2013 6:02:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: citizen

Normally August here in Ga. is HOT so far it’s
hardly broken 90 this week in the low 80s and
60 last night. I love it and hope for a cold
and early winter.


13 posted on 08/26/2013 6:06:10 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: HangnJudge

I think the FA is well regarded, though their predictions are of the broad brush variety. They predict forecasts such as hotter-colder-wetter-dryer, etc for 16 regional areas of the USA and they are usually right.

Like the article says, they have used predictive methods such as planetary positions, sunspots and lunar cycles for 200 years. I guess that can work if you know what to look for.


14 posted on 08/26/2013 6:12:33 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: citizen

It’s orbital mechanics (of planets) and plasma currents in the sun. The lower the solar currents the lower the solar output. From what I’ve read the sun’s wobble and currents will be very low for the next several decades. This is the first I’ve read of a 200 year duration.


15 posted on 08/26/2013 6:13:40 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Justa

ya may want to look up John Casey “Cold Sun” and read his prediction of the coming solar hibernation.


16 posted on 08/26/2013 6:17:05 AM PDT by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco and John Pistole.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Cold in winter?? Who would have thought.

It's amazing what we learn on Free Republic, isn't it? :)

17 posted on 08/26/2013 6:17:30 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: Captain7seas

This thread covers some of Casey’s work at the Space and Science Research Corporation.
The End of Global Sea Level Rise
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3057870/posts


18 posted on 08/26/2013 6:23:21 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: citizen
Good.
Maybe this will kill off the marauding armadillos hereabouts.
19 posted on 08/26/2013 6:26:59 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: tet68

I live in GA as well. North of Atlanta. I left the deck door open and woke up pretty darned cold this morning! It was 60 degrees, like you said.

There have been several unusually cold nights, for August, this summer. And generally not very hot in the day either.


20 posted on 08/26/2013 6:29:07 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: citizen
My question is how would they know ...

Obviously, they don't, but their theories are probably based on ice cores and tree ring samples, coupled with solar historical records, such as they are.

Granted, there's a lot of extrapolation done from the relatively shorter solar cycles.

21 posted on 08/26/2013 6:33:42 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: citizen

I live in Dahlonega so it is cooler but the overall
trend is to colder weather.
I lived in downtown in the 80s when we had over
thirty days in a row of 100 plus weather.
What a nightmare too hot to sleep.


22 posted on 08/26/2013 6:35:09 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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23 posted on 08/26/2013 6:36:21 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: citizen

How did you do that. SE Wisconsin stayed in the 70s overnight


24 posted on 08/26/2013 6:48:44 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: citizen

Warm globally, cool locally!!!


25 posted on 08/26/2013 6:48:58 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: UB355

“...SE Wisconsin stayed in the 70s overnight”

Same here in the Twin Cities.

The Weather Service has issued a Heat Advisory to last ‘til midnight.

Today is gonna be a major league scorcher with all the heat and humidity.


26 posted on 08/26/2013 7:01:49 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: citizen

If the quoted 80% correct prediction rate is accurate, that’s 5x what the locals can boast. Isn’t the “European Model” more accurate than the “US Model”?

http://news.yahoo.com/us-vs-european-hurricane-model-better-164750199.html


27 posted on 08/26/2013 7:04:12 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: citizen
2009: Man-made Global Climate change is the reason we have more hurricanes and warmer winters.

2013: Man-made Global Climate change is the reason we have fewer hurricanes and colder winters.


28 posted on 08/26/2013 7:05:54 AM PDT by Iron Munro (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: UB355
How did you do that. SE Wisconsin stayed in the 70s overnight

This summer, it's usually been low 70s high 60s at night for me. But we have had 3 nights of about 60 and a few more close to it.

Normal summer August night temps for here are high 70s, sometimes low 80s.

29 posted on 08/26/2013 7:07:29 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: tet68

douglasville here, to me its been hot as H#LL!! tired of sweating all the time... bring on the cold!!!


30 posted on 08/26/2013 7:27:27 AM PDT by wyowolf
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Hmmm, bookmarking, I’ve been thinking the save for a couple of winters. Maybe this year I’m right?


31 posted on 08/26/2013 7:31:19 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: citizen

In deep Mississippi, my red oaks are shedding leaves a month and a half early.

LLS


32 posted on 08/26/2013 7:31:41 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: citizen; tet68

At some point we FReepers in GA need to set rally points for when SHTF/AFOC is nascent.

Don’t want to do so in electronic media, if you guys at the NSA catch my drift ;-)


33 posted on 08/26/2013 8:02:26 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Iron Munro

haha that’s a funny cartoon! In a ridiculing sort of way.

Yeah, those global warming zealots are really adaptable like mutating viruses. (apologies to mutating viruses)


34 posted on 08/26/2013 8:05:15 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: citizen

Its almost 12 noon here in Lawrenceville, GA and only 77 degrees. Unbelievable!


35 posted on 08/26/2013 8:51:25 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Vendome
"Could sleep in mid 40 degree outside and be comfortable."

You obviously winter in the deep South.

36 posted on 08/26/2013 9:44:46 AM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: All

Link about Antarctic snowfall this year, which is quite a bit more than in recent decades:
Recent snowfall anomalies in Dronning Maud Land, East Antarctica
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/grl.50559/abstract


37 posted on 08/26/2013 9:53:21 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I noticed that last week too.

I predict we will have autumn temps about 6w early.

We had ‘spring’ temps about 6w later than normal too. I had FROST in my yard on May 3. And I’m south of Jtown.


38 posted on 08/26/2013 9:57:41 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: citizen

“Winter is coming.” ~Ned Stark


39 posted on 08/26/2013 10:30:14 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Black Agnes

Yes indeed... the frost will soon be on the pumpkin! I noticed that the Dogwoods started shedding today.


40 posted on 08/26/2013 10:35:55 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: cookcounty

Haven’t tried the lake effects of the north but, have camped with lake effects in Oklahoma.


41 posted on 08/26/2013 10:59:26 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: MplsSteve

But, on the positive side, the tomatoes are finally ripening and we can swim comfortably without turning on the pool heater.

It cools off again at night next week.


42 posted on 08/26/2013 11:24:58 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Black Agnes

Up here, in Wisconsin, it is _already_ less than a month til the normal first frost. Much of July was hot up here.

When we have these sorts of cool summers, it typically heats up the end of August through the middle of September,light frost comes at the regular time (9/20-9/24) and then we have a warm 3 weeks until about October 15 or so. If we cover the garden when frost is predicted, things will continue to grow some for a couple more weeks.

This sort of late Spring, cool Summer has happened before.


43 posted on 08/26/2013 11:30:13 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

Undoubtedly.

However, my 80yr old dad who farmed was shocked at the frost in May. That hasn’t happened in his lifetime. It broke a record from the late 1890’s.

I’d love to see the temps and first/last frost dates around here from the Dalton Minimum.


44 posted on 08/26/2013 11:32:16 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Where has he lived?

I am nearly 71 and have lived in Wisconsin since 1964. I can recall several years prior to and during the 1970s, with May frosts. They aren’t *hard*, but they can injure new starts.

We never plant before Memorial Day or the first week of June. Even if it is a warm Spring, we keep the starts potted in a greenhouse or hoop house and have a heating option available.

This year, the May frost was made worse by 2 weeks of rain. Anyone whose starts survived the frost, ended up with early blight. Our garden was too thick to drink, too thin to plow, so I just put everything in 10-gallon pots and gave away about 60 starts to people who had lost theirs to the rain.


45 posted on 08/26/2013 11:43:52 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

We live in south Mississippi. I’ve never lost plants in MAY to frost before.

My dad has lived here his whole life.


46 posted on 08/26/2013 11:54:05 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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47 posted on 08/26/2013 12:56:31 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Major brain damage at UMES, but no property damage!)
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To: wyowolf

I used to live in Villa Rica, yes it’s hotter there.
I live in the edge of the mountains and it’s sure
a lot better here, although I wish i was even farther
north, say Blairsville or more but, I got tired
of looking. I wouldn’t have thought it was so hard
to find a place with a barn but in my price range
there was little to nothing. Found a place with a
three car garage so it will do.


48 posted on 08/26/2013 2:49:28 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"Winter is coming."

I had to bing that to see what it meant. Lol

49 posted on 08/26/2013 3:48:57 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: Black Agnes

A south Mississippi late May frost sounds really late to me.

I heard there have been all kinds of record lows set this spring/summer. Some were record daytime lows. There was one of those set here last week.


50 posted on 08/26/2013 3:59:38 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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