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Posted on 08/25/2013 7:24:55 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
Edited on 08/25/2013 7:26:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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I completely agree with you Jim. I am ready to support Cruz!
However, I am sure that I trust the Founders and the Founders trusted the electors.
BTTT!
If Cruz runs, FR is Cruz Country!!
Go, Cruz, GO!!
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YOU BETCHA and AMEN, Jim!
Palin or Cruz for me.
Can’t think of anyone else and I’ve already said this several times.
This is another example of that willful lying you are so famous for. When he makes THAT EXPLICIT VATTEL QUOTE, HE IS TALKING ABOUT CITIZENSHIP.
Now of course *YOU* allege the case is not about citizenship, but let's see what Justice Bushrod Washington has to say what the case is regarding.
Justice Bushrod Washington:
"The claims of Maitland, McGregor and Jones are resisted in toto upon an objection to the national character of the claimants."
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There being no dispute as to the facts upon which the domicile of these claimants is asserted, the questions of law alone remain to be considered. They are two -- first, by what means and to what extent a national character may be impressed upon a person different from that which permanent allegiance gives him, and secondly, what are the legal consequences to which this acquired character may expose him in the event of a war taking place between the country of his residence and that of his birth or in which he had been naturalized?
Yeah, you're wrong about that too. The entire case was about citizenship.
Do you really think strawman mockery is an effective tactic? Obviously no Foreign country would attempt to draft someone AFTER they became President, but that is not the point. The point is that they COULD be drafted and made to fight against us prior to the fact.
If someone with Dual citizenship was drafted by a foreign Nation, and fought against us, would they be guilty of treason for fighting us? Would they be guilty of Treason if they didn't? Yeah, that body of law is clear as mud.
HOWEVER, someone recently turned me on to this treatise on The Law of Nations. It's by a Swiss guy named Vattel who wrote it in French.
A lot of people attempt to mock the fact that Vattel was Swiss, and that he wrote "Droit des Gens" in French.
Two points.
1. Switzerland was the only REPUBLIC in the world at that time, and Ideas for governing a Republic were not likely to come from a land ruled by a Monarchy.
2. The international language of Diplomacy was French. If you intended a large circulation of your ideas among the movers and shakers of other nations, it was compulsory that you write them in French.
Why do we put up with you Jeff? You accuse others of what you routinely do.
You have repeatedly exaggerated the statements of Marshall, Story and Kent regarding Bayard. You overstate their endorsement and have them practically co-authors when in fact they approved the ordering of the chapters.
We repeatedly suffer your obnoxious language. And now because you’re frustrated you run to the website owner whining like some little tattle-tale? It’s laughable. Have you never learned to disagree without being disagreeable?
I think modern law needs to be reevaluated based on scientific advancement that makes paternity certain. It is completely unfair and unnatural to make a man support another man’s children while the actual father is not required to contribute anything.
Nature made my position clear. I merely articulated it.
No Jeff, you have been proven to be a bald faced liar. You lied about Bingham, you lied about Bayard, you lied about Thomas Jefferson being a French citizen, and you CONSTANTLY LIE ABOUT HAVING ALL THE AUTHORITIES ON YOUR SIDE.
His lies have been factually demonstrated and proven to be false again and again and again.
And you keep CLAIMING that you disproved something, when in fact it is just the echo chamber of your hollow head resonating with your own delusions.
Why do we have to keep putting up with him here at FreeRepublic?
"Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?"
You just don't like being called out on the lies you tell. You just don't like having someone correcting all the misdirection you constantly post. You just want someone to silence your critics so you alone can proclaim what you want people to believe.
The bigger question is why we would want someone like YOU on Free Republic.
I Support Cruz. I like him better than any other potential candidate I see out there. If the Democrats don't have to follow the rules, then we don't either.
To hell with Tokyo Rove, the GOP-e, Chis Kristy, Jeb Bush or any other steenking RINO!!
Amen! I'm sick of the Rino Establishment, especially Rove! He's done enough damage. Time for him to fade into obscurity.
I trust that the founders created the best system of governance that the world has ever seen. But trust modern day electors? Not so much.
Go, Cruz, GO!!
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YOU BETCHA and AMEN, Jim!
Cruz is the best man I see on the Horizon. As far as i'm concerned, he's more American than the Jack@$$ we have running things now. As Lincoln said of Grant. "I can't spare this man... He fights."
He would be such an exciting AND conservative choice for us! And would fight FOR America!
Look how far we have fallen as a country when out of a population of 300 million we only have two people who have the qualities we need to lead the nation.
How did we get here? What Cruz and Palin believe used to be what all of America believed.
We have lost our way.
And, if Mexico chooses to not view me as a citizen of Mexico, that's okay, too. I am a citizen of the United States and have never asked Canada or Mexico to view me as a citizen. How those two governments choose to view individuals in this world is beyond my control.
I don't really care if Canada chooses to view Ted Cruz as a citizen or if Mexico chooses not to view Ted Cruz as a citizen. I am not going to let either of those governments manipulate my electoral choices or my vote by anything that those governments do or don't do.
Now, if Ted Cruz is seen to embrace Canadian citizenship (thereby making the relationship a bilateral one) or if Ted Cruz is found to be applying for Mexican citizenship, then either of those facts would probably be deal-breakers for most voters. But that's not what's happening here.
Our nation's eligibility rules and our nation's pool of eligible candidates must be controlled by our nation and by our nation alone. What other nations do or don't do cannot be a relevant factor.
Canada has extended to Cruz a right to citizenship. Unless Cruz responds to that request by accepting or embracing that offer, Canada has no right to draft Cruz or to tax Cruz or to render Cruz ineligible to be our president. He's an American!
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