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Jurors continue to deliberate at Fort Hood--Update: GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS; eligible for death penalty
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| August 23, 2013
| Jeremy Schwartz
Posted on 08/23/2013 6:27:42 AM PDT by don-o
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To: bmwcyle
For sure. I would've had him hung twice by now.
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posted on
08/23/2013 7:01:40 AM PDT
by
b4its2late
(A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
To: circlecity
No, there is nothing in the UCMJ which requires an admission or confession be made under oath to be entered into evidence. Unless I'm misunderstanding,or misreading,what "jagusafr" said there is,at least,a problem with such a scenario in a court martial.Perhaps at some point he'll respond to my earlier post and we'll if I need remedial reading classes! ;-)
To: Norm Lenhart
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posted on
08/23/2013 7:06:17 AM PDT
by
rocksblues
(The Obama administration the most unlawful, corrupt administration in US history.)
To: don-o
They are busy filling out the paperwork to inform Obama of his promotion and exactly which medals they are awarding to him.
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posted on
08/23/2013 7:07:03 AM PDT
by
Iron Munro
(To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
To: Mr. K
My personal favorite is Apache justice.
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posted on
08/23/2013 7:08:59 AM PDT
by
NTHockey
(Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
To: Gay State Conservative
That is correct: in every criminal jury trial, the judge admonishes the jury that “what the attorneys say in opening statements and closing arguments is not evidence. In reaching your verdict, you are to consider only the evidence and sworn testimony before you”, or words to that effect, depending on jurisdiction. Since he didn’t testify and he’s acting as his own attorney, his statements cannot be considered in determining innocence or guilt. It is at times (like this case) a Chinese wall, a legal fiction, but that’s the very reason the court martial panel needs to be very deliberate.
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posted on
08/23/2013 7:10:23 AM PDT
by
jagusafr
(the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
To: jagusafr
There are WAY too many "laws" on America's books if we can't take a(n) multiple admission of guilt and just sentence him accordingly.
Sure we have the right to defense counsel, but as I understand it, this vermin pretty much signed off on every accusation DURING the trial.
It's a damned shame we have to CYA in an obvious situation.
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posted on
08/23/2013 7:11:58 AM PDT
by
knarf
(I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
To: b4its2late
And covered him in Bacon.
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posted on
08/23/2013 7:14:07 AM PDT
by
bmwcyle
(People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
To: bmwcyle
Hang him already. And make sure the seatbelt is snug.
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posted on
08/23/2013 7:16:22 AM PDT
by
BerryDingle
(I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
To: bmwcyle
Is it pc to hang a disabled criminal?
To: knarf
I understand the frustration. But, I value our justice system beginning with presumption of innocence through burden of proof.
I agree with “better a guilty man go free than an innocent man be convicted.”
(General statements here - Hasan’s guilt is apparent. But, the process must be followed)
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posted on
08/23/2013 7:19:43 AM PDT
by
don-o
(He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
To: don-o
Fort Hood Shootings @FtHoodShootings 8m In 10-second hearing, judge sent jurors back into deliberations. #hasan
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posted on
08/23/2013 7:20:33 AM PDT
by
don-o
(He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
To: don-o
Can the judge choose from a number of types of Capital Punishment?
I wonder if BEHEADING is on such a list.
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posted on
08/23/2013 7:34:54 AM PDT
by
MeshugeMikey
(Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
To: HomeAtLast
We could always do it Iranian Muslim style . . . with a crane. That would be sensitive to his religion and culture, eh?
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posted on
08/23/2013 7:35:38 AM PDT
by
Vigilanteman
(Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: NTHockey
Which type? Staking them to an anthill and painting them with honey? Wrapping them in a leather blanket and wetting the blanket? So much creativity for such a small tribe.
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posted on
08/23/2013 7:38:19 AM PDT
by
Vigilanteman
(Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
To: Gay State Conservative
"Unless I'm misunderstanding,or misreading,what "jagusafr" said there is,at least,a problem with such a scenario in a court martial.Perhaps at some point he'll respond to my earlier post and we'll if I need remedial reading classes!"
A court martial is regulated by the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice). Nowhere does it say that admissions or confessions must be given under oath to be admissible. Such a requirement would eliminate 99% of all admissions.
To: circlecity
A court martial is regulated by the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice). Nowhere does it say that admissions or confessions must be given under oath to be admissible. Such a requirement would eliminate 99% of all admissions. In the response that "jagusafr" just sent to me regarding my original question to him (post #26) there appears to be at least one exception to what you're saying.Given that he's a lawyer,a former military lawyer at that,I'm inclined to accept the accuracy of his statement.I don't understand the logic behind the concept he was describing but then there's very,*very* many things about the law that I don't understand so I'll just add that to the list.
To: Gay State Conservative
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posted on
08/23/2013 8:30:20 AM PDT
by
don-o
(He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
To: Gay State Conservative
"Given that he's a lawyer,a former military lawyer at that"
So am I.
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