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Did a Gay Activist Lie to the New Jersey Senate? (On “gay conversion therapy” )
Townhall ^ | 03/25/2013 | Michael Brown

Posted on 08/20/2013 3:28:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

There was one particular testimony before the New Jersey Senate detailing the dangers of “gay conversion therapy” that was so riveting that it sounded like something taken straight out of a Hollywood script. It now appears that it was taken straight out of Hollywood. So, not only is the New Jersey Senate in danger of passing a terribly unfair, discriminatory bill, but the most compelling testimony presented appears to be a fabrication.

Before getting into the details of what appears to be an incredible hoax, it’s important to understand the nature of this very dangerous bill, which would make it illegal for a licensed therapist to offer professional help to a minor with unwanted same-sex attractions, even if the minor had parental permission.

Yet if that minor wanted to find out how to embrace those same-sex attractions, or if that minor felt he was a boy trapped in a girl’s body and wanted to explore hormone therapy with a view towards sex-change surgery, that would be fine. But let that same young person say, “I’m troubled by my same sex attractions and would like to explore the possibility of change,” that would be illegal if this outrageous bill passes.

As I noted on June 1, 2012 with reference to a similar bill that was being considered in California (it passed, but is being held up due to legal appeals), “California Senator Ted Lieu, the author of the bill, removed any doubt as to why he introduced it: ‘The attack on parental rights is exactly the whole point of the bill because we don’t want to let parents harm their children.’”

This is a startling example of government overreach, not only between parents and their children but also between patient and client. As Carol Gallentine said to the Senate committee last week, “I don't understand who you people are, trying to come into our homes and tell us what to do with our children. I see you people bullying the parents.”

Ironically, in schools all over America (including New Jersey), a girl who wants to come out as lesbian can be encouraged by public school counselors or teachers to join the school’s Gay Straight Alliance. There, she will be encouraged not to tell her parents about her decision and not to listen to their religious viewpoints. But now, New Jersey is considering passing a bill that will make it illegal to offer professional help to a minor (even with parental permission) if that child doesn’t want to embrace a gay identity.

Of course, the whole basis for this bill is the alleged harm done to minors who have been subjected to counseling for same-sex attractions, and the testimony offered by Brielle Goldani, born male but now identifying as female, offered poignant confirmation of these alleged abuses.

Goldani described how he/she was sent by his/her parents to a religious camp in Ohio called “True Directions,” allegedly run by the Assemblies of God, a conservative Christian denomination. “Goldani told lawmakers she was given electric shocks and drugs to induce vomiting as part of the treatment.”

Christopher Doyle, a professional counselor and himself a former homosexual (yes, these do exist, by the thousands), testified before the Senate against the bill, but he was deeply troubled by Goldani’s story, prompting him to do further research. What he uncovered was that: 1) “According to the office of the Ohio secretary of state and attorney general, no such camp called True Directions has ever existed.” 2) The Assemblies of God, including the local church that allegedly sponsored the camp, never heard of it and would never sanction such barbarous treatment. 3) Licensed therapists in Ohio completely disavowed such treatments.

So where did Goldani’s horror story come from? Doyle reports that “it came from a 1999 film titled ‘But I’m a Cheerleader,’ starring RuPaul. In the film, the main character is suspected of being a lesbian by her family, who then proceeds to send her to a ‘conversion therapy’ camp called True Directions.” Amazing!

Worse still, it appears that gays being sent to “True Directions” camp may be something of an urban gay myth. According to an email from a man struggling with his own homosexual desires, “I don’t know why but it never occurred to me that many of these stories of barbaric gay to straight therapy might be fabrications. In particular one I have heard about several times is a camp called True Directions in Ohio.”

What then are the facts? First, even if such barbaric treatments did take place, there is not a licensed therapist in America who engages in them. What then was the relevance of this (apparently fabricated) testimony? Absolutely none.

Second, contrary to popular perception, a task force for the American Psychological Association did not find sexual orientation change therapy dangerous. Rather, it claimed that “there is insufficient evidence to support the use of psychological interventions to change sexual orientation,” quite an understated conclusion when you realize that every member of the task force was either gay or radically pro-gay. (For detailed documentation of this, see A Queer Thing Happened to America.)

Third, with every counseling intervention, be it for obesity or depression or alcoholism or unwanted same-sex attractions, some have a positive outcome, some see no change, and some report harm. In fact, gay psychologist Richard Isay describes how one married man whom he was helping to become gay committed suicide (see his book Becoming Gay).

Fourth, there are numerous documented testimonies and personal stories of men and women benefitting from the very counseling New Jersey wants to ban.

Fifth, according to the most recent report from the Centers for Disease Control, homosexual sex continues to be extremely risky, yet the New Jersey Senate is considering outlawing a counseling intervention that could help steer an individual away from such unsafe sex.

People of New Jersey, will you stand for this outrage or will you speak up?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: demagogicparty; gay; gaytherapy; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; newjersey
This article was from a few months ago. It has become relevant now in light of Gov. Chris Christie signing a bill to ban gay conversion therapy in the state of NJ.
1 posted on 08/20/2013 3:28:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Truth is no longer relevant in this debate. All that matters is sympathy for the self-proclaimed victims, who are now the victors.


2 posted on 08/20/2013 3:35:31 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: SeekAndFind

To the headline: of course, they are a liberal


3 posted on 08/20/2013 3:36:25 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: SeekAndFind
The liar ...


I couldn'r be in the same building with that creature.

4 posted on 08/20/2013 3:42:13 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: SeekAndFind
I can't believe they need a bill for this. Perhaps if we HAVE to have a bill (which we don't) then have a statement from the parents AND the child saying that they are volunteering to attend the session in hopes of getting out the demon. Why does liberalism have to be so cut and dry? Ban on everything is the motto of the Democrats. Just a simple legal document would do the trick. I imagine ONE set of parents forced their child to go to the sessions that perhaps turned out bad and instead of common sense, they ban the whole thing. Typical.
5 posted on 08/20/2013 3:43:48 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: knarf

Are you guys telling me that they kid can become straight through therapy???? Good Lord you must be kidding.


6 posted on 08/20/2013 3:44:31 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: napscoordinator

I ain’t sayin’ NUTHIN’ ... I went looking for the photo ... and wish’d I hadn’t.


7 posted on 08/20/2013 3:46:02 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

Let me rephrase. That kid in the picture is 100 percent gay. I can’t even imagine how he could become straight. Is their enough money for the parents to pay to make him straight?


8 posted on 08/20/2013 3:49:46 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: knarf
lol. The job you do for us is astounding. Thanks for taking one for the team. lol.
9 posted on 08/20/2013 3:50:29 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: napscoordinator

I looked further ... that’s 29 years old.


10 posted on 08/20/2013 3:55:56 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

Good Lord. And they say that God doesn’t make mistakes. /sarc


11 posted on 08/20/2013 4:00:20 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: knarf

Why is it so easy to spot faggots? You could make a game show out if it but it would be so easy even a 5th grader could do it...


12 posted on 08/20/2013 4:07:07 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: knarf
is that, worse than this? (Chaz Bono to the right ):



Chaz Bono as a girl:

13 posted on 08/20/2013 4:07:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: knarf

Where’s the picture of the eye bleach when you need it?


14 posted on 08/20/2013 4:08:12 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: napscoordinator

Assemblies of God have in the past had involvement with Teen Challenge - and World Challenge. Its founder, David Wilkerson, was killed a couple years ago in an auto accident in Texas.

Good heavens, don’t people check out these stories before they jump feet first into legislation based on lies?


15 posted on 08/20/2013 4:10:21 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: SeekAndFind

Once a Muslim, always a Muslim on the pain of death. Once a queer, always a queer on the pain of serious jail time and loss of professional licenses.


16 posted on 08/20/2013 4:24:50 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The only growth industries left under Progressives are government and poverty.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What would stop the parents from moving to a state that did not have such a law? Or, you could send the kid to “camp”.


17 posted on 08/20/2013 6:48:54 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Kill Obamacare not wound it.)
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To: napscoordinator
...then have a statement from the parents AND the child saying that they are volunteering to attend the session in hopes of getting out the demon.

It would be acceptable if the kid was being cured of Conservatism.

18 posted on 08/20/2013 6:51:15 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Kill Obamacare not wound it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
starring RuPaul

Oxymoron.

19 posted on 08/20/2013 6:52:08 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Sadly your right. It is beyond scary what I thought America would be like a short number of years ago. Seriously, I am 44 and had you told me the plot of America’s future when I was 34 (yep even with President Clinton as President), I would have thought you were telling me this horrific horror story. I am serious!!!!!


20 posted on 08/20/2013 6:56:16 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: napscoordinator

No, kids don’t “become straight” through therapy. It most certainly is possible they can understand their minds have been poisoned into thinking they are gay by the likes of bisexual Obama, Rosie Odonnell, Andy Dick, Barney Frank, public schools, hollywood, idiot predatory relatives and fake conservative New Jersey governors.


21 posted on 08/20/2013 7:00:53 PM PDT by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why is it that so many of the current crop of the NSA leakers happen to be male homosexuals? Julian Assange, Bradley Manning,Glen Greenwald and his lovely Brazilian partner, and perhaps Edward Snowden?

Is there some connection in their brains between homosexuality and anti-patriotic hostility? I don’t know the answer, but I found it curious that so many were homosexuals.


22 posted on 08/20/2013 8:46:02 PM PDT by StopGlobalWhining (Buy a US Govt Railpass to visit Obamavilles in all 57 states on the Intercontinental Railroad)
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bfl


23 posted on 08/20/2013 9:37:20 PM PDT by ELS
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To: jsanders2001

The mentally ill often stand out.


24 posted on 08/21/2013 4:27:56 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: StopGlobalWhining

RE: Why is it that so many of the current crop of the NSA leakers happen to be male homosexuals? Julian Assange, Bradley Manning,Glen Greenwald and his lovely Brazilian partner, and perhaps Edward Snowden?

I thought Assange was accused of raping a woman in Sweden...
And didn’t Snowden have a poll dancing girlfriend?


25 posted on 08/21/2013 5:37:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: knarf

It’s Pat(hetic)!


26 posted on 08/21/2013 7:22:17 AM PDT by relictele ("An elective despotism was not the government we fought for..." - James Madison)
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To: fwdude

Every time a double standard is exposed or debunked, lefties come up with an even more egregious double standard. How many organizations, many of them funded directly by the state e.g. educational institutions, have ‘gay or think you might be?’ support centers, counselors, hotlines, etc.? Why is coming out of the closet supposed to come with a fanfare and a party, while declaring there is no closet at all now outlawed?

Boil it all down and it’s more of the same: thought control.


27 posted on 08/21/2013 7:27:08 AM PDT by relictele ("An elective despotism was not the government we fought for..." - James Madison)
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To: knarf
I am interested to know the subsequent handling of this thing's penalty for lying to the Senate... Or, would that make them "haters"?

28 posted on 08/22/2013 7:35:38 AM PDT by GirlShortstop (Every person has a duty to seek and serve the truth. Abp Charles J. Chaput, OFMCap)
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To: SeekAndFind

The fact that Assange was accused of rape does not does not negate the fact that he is an admitted homosexual. Bi perhaps? But he says he is gay.

As far as Snowden, he does have a female girlfriend, that’s why I said “perhaps”.

Cheers-


30 posted on 08/22/2013 8:47:39 PM PDT by StopGlobalWhining (Buy a US Govt Railpass to visit Obamavilles in all 57 states on the Intercontinental Railroad)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did the fat pig sign this bill already? I’ve missed a lot of news.

This is so beyond insanity we need to invent some new words, or dig up some archaic ones.


31 posted on 08/22/2013 9:27:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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