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The Civil War Rages in Public in Egypt; and in the United States Behind Closed Doors
Townhall.com ^ | August 20, 2013 | John Ransom

Posted on 08/20/2013 4:28:20 AM PDT by Kaslin

There are many things for which on principle we should stand.

As long-time readers know, I’m keenly sensitive to oil price movements, believing that high oil prices, more than any other single factor, were responsible for the systemic failure of the financial industry worldwide in 2008.

I have often argued, thanks to the work of the our contributors at Political Calculations, that high gas prices result in layoffs in the private workforce, something we can ill afford right now.

In general, my strongest indictment of the Obama administration is the abandonment of the common sense and common policy that gives us cheap, plentiful energy. That policy makes for a robust economy in the United States.

That policy used to be something that we could all agree on regardless of party.

But not anymore.

Oil prices will continue to rise as Egypt continues to be rocked by violence in wake of the coup the Egyptian military staged against the duly elected government run by the Muslim Brotherhood.

But I agree with Abraham Lincoln that there are things some things more important than economic hardship.

Lincoln, as he prepared to take the presidential oath of office, was confronted by a delegation from New York insisting that he yield to “the just demands of the South” in order to protect the commercial interests of the nation, and avoid a costly civil war. “It is for you, sir, to say whether the whole nation shall be plunged into bankruptcy,” declared a member of the delegation to Lincoln, “whether the grass shall grow in the streets of our commercial cities.”

Lincoln rejoined:

If I shall ever come to the great office of President of the United States, I shall take an oath. I shall swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, of all the United States, and that I will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. This is a great and solemn duty. With the support of the people and the assistance of the Almighty I shall undertake to perform it. I have full faith that I shall perform it. It is not the Constitution as I would like to have it, but as it is, that is to be defended. The Constitution will not be preserved and defended until it is enforced and obeyed in every part of every one of the United States. It must be so respected, obeyed, enforced, and defended, let the grass grow where it may.

Defending the constitutionally-elected government of countries, and respecting the rule of law, are a noble goals for U.S. foreign policy; goals that sometimes call for sacrifices. 

However Egypt, under the Muslim Brotherhood, deserves neither defense nor respect.

Democracy is a myth in Egypt, whether manipulated by the Muslim Brothers or the Egyptian army. But in general I believe that the army better protects the aspirations of ordinary Egyptians than do the religious zealots Obama favors in Libya, Egypt, Syria and elsewhere. 

As our own NightWatch analyst noted last Christmas, the vast majority of Egyptians boycotted the elections process when Egypt approved a new Islamist constitution:

In a country of 82 million people, 25 million are registered voters. Only 33 percent voted in the first round and 31 percent voted in the second round. Thus, 16.5 million voters declined to vote. That means some 8.5 million voters decided the fate of Egypt.

The informal results show that just fewer than 5.5 million people made the decision for 82 million Egyptians that Egypt will be a more devout Islamist state, governed by Sharia. They overwhelmingly abandoned the last 60 years of Egyptian political history and US involvement in Egypt.

With such a low voter turnout, the referendum can hardly be considered an accurate measure of what Egyptians want. By far the vast majority of Egyptian voters voted for no change by boycotting the referendum.

Today Barack Obama’s foreign policy is in tatters, shredded by willful blindness with which the president views-- or rather disregards—history, especially the history of regions where he has a keen personal interest.

Foreign policy for a great American nation, he should know, is not made on the slights, animosities and centuries-old grudges that Obama seems to trade on like money. 

It’s much bigger than that.

Within our government today there are deep divisions about the abandonment of decades-old alliances in the Middle East, which, in stark contrast with today, kept the peace.

This is true of Egypt.

The U.S. military has such a deep and complex connection to the Egyptian military that it would take the suspension of reality to believe that military leaders in Egypt don’t consult with contacts in the Pentagon, receiving both material and moral support from them.

When the final chapter is written in the Obama presidency, and the memoir wars begin, I expect that the civil wars raging in the Middle East will be paralleled by revelations of shadow wars within the defense-intelligence community at home that is mostly at odds with Obama policy, especially on Egypt.

Certainly a president is entitled to enact his own foreign policy. But disregard for the chain of command, while not worthy of our country, is a natural outgrowth of Obama’s own disrespect for our constitution and the rule of law here at home.

I’m glad that someone is willing to stand up to the shifts and evasions of a president who believes his own pseudo, Greek-column majesty outpaces that of a nation built on the daily hard work and sacrifice of so many.

We are entitled to protest in this event; and let oil prices go where they may.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: defense; foreignpolicy; intelligence; johnransom; obama; unitedstatesmilitary

1 posted on 08/20/2013 4:28:20 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

[ believing that high oil prices, more than any other single factor, were responsible for the systemic failure of the financial industry worldwide in 2008. ]

LOL. The high oil prices in 2008 were a direct result of dollars being redirected out of the AAA A$$paper gravy train... and into commodities.

As usual, CarpetBagger Johny Ransom is full of shyte.


2 posted on 08/20/2013 4:46:05 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

http://www.google.com/#fp=aae3bcc417c03f0c&q=oil+manipulation+2008+site:www.zerohedge.com


3 posted on 08/20/2013 4:48:53 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Kaslin
Lincoln, as he prepared to take the presidential oath of office, was confronted by a delegation from New York insisting that he yield to “the just demands of the South” in order to protect the commercial interests of the nation, and avoid a costly civil war. “It is for you, sir, to say whether the whole nation shall be plunged into bankruptcy,” declared a member of the delegation to Lincoln, “whether the grass shall grow in the streets of our commercial cities.”

He should of listened to the Ny'ers. They were right for once....

4 posted on 08/20/2013 4:53:02 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

this is NOT a civil war. It is a war between the Egyptian military and an international terrorist group


5 posted on 08/20/2013 4:57:45 AM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: Kaslin

“Oil prices will continue to rise as Egypt continues to be rocked by violence in wake of the coup the Egyptian military staged against the duly elected government run by the Muslim Brotherhood. “

this sentence is complete nonsense. the author writing it won’t make it fact

The facts are, Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization, you don’t depose Mubarek and then get your self “elected”, the election of Morsi was a travesty, and what the Army did was get rid of Morsi who was an evil POS who needed to be got rid of.


6 posted on 08/20/2013 5:10:45 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kaslin
The Money Quote:

"When the final chapter is written in the Obama presidency, and the memoir wars begin, I expect that the civil wars raging in the Middle East will be paralleled by revelations of shadow wars within the defense-intelligence community at home that is mostly at odds with Obama policy, especially on Egypt. "

Very, very likely to be a true statement. The possibility that there is widespread support for the Muslim Brotherhood amongst the members of our military is remote. Not so for the Obama Administration where, in fact, that support is universal and defines the Obama Middle East policy.

7 posted on 08/20/2013 6:09:35 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: yldstrk

The Egyptian military used Tahir Square as a tool to get rid of Mubarak, their erstwhile front man who was seeking to put his son on the throne. This the military couldn’t abide.

Like most coups, this was a two-stage affair. First you get rid of the Boss, next you flush out your political rivals. The. Lastly, you crush that rival. The Muslim Brotherhood (& the friend Barak Obama) got played.


8 posted on 08/20/2013 6:53:37 AM PDT by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania)
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To: Tallguy

good, sounds fine to me. At least someone somewhere has a brain


9 posted on 08/20/2013 7:02:30 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kaslin
It is difficult to get just what Ransom's message here is, and to whom it is intended. Is he trying to convince himself, Obama, friends of his who work for John Kerry now in Foggy Bottom?

If you are in any way attached to the "Foreign Policy" establishment, working for America in American diplomacy, when in doubt ask what serves American interests.

That's been the open secret of Diplomacy.

Are American interests served by an unstable Egypt? Is the Egyptian military or the Muslim Brotherhood better able to serve that American interest?

All this rationalizing about the legitimacy of the Egyptian elections, apparently aimed at Americans not wishing to taint themselves with support of a coup is silly, particularly if it is aimed at the high-minded among this present administration in Washington, or their apologists among the Republicans, like Graham and McCain.

10 posted on 08/20/2013 7:16:37 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Kaslin

Put Morsi to death, sooner than later.


11 posted on 08/20/2013 4:24:56 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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