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SF fire chief bans helmet cameras in wake of crash
SFGate ^ | , Saturday, August 17, 2013 | Jaxon Van Derbeken

Posted on 08/18/2013 12:11:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin

San Francisco's fire chief has explicitly banned firefighters from using helmet-mounted video cameras, after images from a battalion chief's Asiana Airlines crash recording became public and led to questions about first responders' actions leading up to a fire rig running over a survivor.

Chief Joanne Hayes-White said she issued the order after discovering that Battalion Chief Mark Johnson's helmet camera filmed the aftermath of the July 6 crash at San Francisco International Airport. Still images from the footage were published in The Chronicle.

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Critics, including some within the department, questioned the chief's order and its timing - coming as Johnson's footage raised the possibility of Fire Department liability in the death of 16-year-old Ye Meng Yuan.

The footage shows a Fire Department rig running over the Chinese schoolgirl as she was covered with fire-retardant foam. It also makes clear that Johnson, who was in charge of the firefighting and rescue effort and was directing rig movements, had not been told that Ye was on the ground near the wreckage of the Boeing 777.

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It is not clear how many San Francisco firefighters and paramedics have such cameras, but their use has spread in recent years. Paramedics, in particular, say having still and video images can be helpful if patients question how they were treated before arriving at a hospital.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: cameras; firefighters; helmetcams
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1 posted on 08/18/2013 12:11:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Some legitimate privacy concerns here, but it sure looks like the SFPD is more concerned about cameras showing what they actually do as compared to what they say they do.

That said, footage taken on department time should not be the property of individual firefighters, and none of it should be released publicly without the consent of those in the videos.


2 posted on 08/18/2013 12:20:03 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Instead of fixing the problem, they want to ban cameras... got it


3 posted on 08/18/2013 12:20:50 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: BenLurkin

I don’t understand. If they’re not doing anything wrong they shouldn’t have anything to hide, right?


4 posted on 08/18/2013 12:20:57 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: BenLurkin

Okay, who has the Austin Powers pic?


5 posted on 08/18/2013 12:21:33 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: BenLurkin

Bureaucrats always protect themselves, first, last, and always. The privacy excuse would, of course, never be used if video footage supported the Fire Department.


6 posted on 08/18/2013 12:21:42 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: BenLurkin

What the hell is that????


7 posted on 08/18/2013 12:25:16 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Disambiguator

Yep, that’s a man, baby. That was my very first thought.


8 posted on 08/18/2013 12:27:31 PM PDT by reaganbooster (The democrat party symbol should be the grim reaper instead of the donkey.)
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To: GeronL

Correct. It’s not that the cameras introduce an element of danger, but that they expose the risk of lawsuits and second-guessing of actions. IOW, the same reason cops give for confiscating the cell phone cameras of citizens.


9 posted on 08/18/2013 12:29:00 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It wasn't the Rodeo Clown's act, it was the crowd reaction they could't take.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
If they’re not doing anything wrong they shouldn’t have anything to hide, right?

Oh, but it's different when it comes to government!

10 posted on 08/18/2013 12:30:57 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: BenLurkin

Dash-cams, helmet-cams and lapels cams are two edged swords. Yes, they can be used to sustain allegations of misconduct against policemen and firemen but, of course, it would never have occurred to the geniuses in S.F. government that they could also be used as the basis of support for liability lawsuits against the city. Therefore, they must “now” go! It’s laughable.


11 posted on 08/18/2013 12:32:44 PM PDT by old school
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To: BenLurkin

“No witnesses !”


12 posted on 08/18/2013 12:33:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Nik Naym

“What the hell is that????”
Why,it’s just your typical diesel dyke political patronage public employee/fire chief.Big liberal cities are loaded down with this useless deadwood.


13 posted on 08/18/2013 12:33:36 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: BenLurkin
Who are you going to believe:

The liar public official or your own eyes review of raw video. There is areason many in Russia now have dash cams in their private vehicles. The move to total lack of privacy cuts both ways. The gov't needs to be under total surveillance 24/7.

14 posted on 08/18/2013 12:35:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: BenLurkin
Is the name on the screen cap incorrect?

5.56mm

15 posted on 08/18/2013 12:35:53 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Nik Naym

IT”S PAT!


16 posted on 08/18/2013 12:40:58 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Nik Naym

IT”S PAT!


17 posted on 08/18/2013 12:41:10 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

Double post not my fault, site problems.


18 posted on 08/18/2013 12:43:07 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: BenLurkin
Next thong thing you know they will outlaw GROINCAMS at Gay Pride PArades..

WHAT?... Nevermind..

19 posted on 08/18/2013 12:43:51 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: BenLurkin

And, of course, the first knee-jerk response of any liberal to something they don’t like is to ban it.

Looking at this fire chief though, it’s too bad somebody doesn’t ban her - at least from appearing on tv or photos - it could scare the children.


20 posted on 08/18/2013 12:44:05 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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