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Near mid air collision
Randolph Air Force Base Multimedia Center via You Tube ^ | March 17, 2005

Posted on 08/11/2013 4:59:38 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus

Footage has been released from the Randolph Air Force Base Multimedia Center, showing a T-38 C jet almost colliding with another plane. (March 17th 2005) Courtesy: Randolph Air Force Base Multimedia Center


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Incident happened in 2005 but video apparently just recently released.
1 posted on 08/11/2013 4:59:38 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

I remember skydiving in the early years...I eventually became “expert” rated but that is neither here nor there. We two novices/intermediates exited our aircraft and attempted to do some relative work. We found ourselves at the same altitude (of course) but far apart. We headed toward each other...at high speed, as it turned out, and narrowly avoided killing each other as we passed each other within inches at maybe, what 100 miles an hour? We both learned a lot that day.


2 posted on 08/11/2013 5:16:45 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Ronald_Magnus
The other aircraft looked like a Texan II.

Tough to tell, it was only a split second in frame.

I didn't know they had constant forward video for training aircraft. We didn't have that when I flew the T-38.

3 posted on 08/11/2013 5:34:23 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Whoa!


4 posted on 08/11/2013 5:35:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: gorush

I have always thought that was something that skydivers could be susceptible to, because I will bet the speed is deceiving when you are many yards apart, but as you come towards each other, I’ll bet it gets fast quickly.

Watching this video, it made my sphincter pucker a little bit. Whew!


5 posted on 08/11/2013 5:45:07 PM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: SkyPilot

I was thinking Beech Bonanza/Debonaire....


6 posted on 08/11/2013 5:52:18 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: SkyPilot

That is not a T-38.A T-38 is a Twin Engine Jet Trainer operated by the USAF Since the 1960’s


7 posted on 08/11/2013 5:53:28 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Wow! If your coffee wasn’t strong enough this morning, THAT will certainly wake you up!


8 posted on 08/11/2013 5:55:18 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Did anybody notice what type of plane that was that was on his nose.

That was damn close.Too damn close.The crew of that twin seater was very calm about it though.

Hell I would have been screaming in anger and shouting every adjective I could think up.


9 posted on 08/11/2013 5:58:13 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: puppypusher; SkyPilot

Hey, Pup....I think SkyPilot knows his aircraft...He was referring to the fact that the T38’s he flew had no forward facing camera with speed and attitudinal info.


10 posted on 08/11/2013 6:05:30 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

I like the instructor’s comment..”OK, let’s go home”.


11 posted on 08/11/2013 6:07:37 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Years ago I was on a Trans Texas Airways jet that just left Houston’s airport. There was a big thundercloud and our plane was going around the side of it when a small plane was doing the same thing from the other direction. The TT plane pulled hard up and the single engine plane dipped down. It was so close I could see the other pilot through the windshield.


12 posted on 08/11/2013 6:10:28 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ronald_Magnus

The dude was a cucumber...I’d of had to call the line handlers for a crowbar to get the ejection seat outta my ass.


13 posted on 08/11/2013 6:20:28 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: puppypusher
Dang....you don't process information well, do you?

His post surmised that the aircraft passing left to right in FRONT of the T-38 (ID'd as such by AF) may have been a Texan2.

He also said he trained in T-38's, so one might suppose he can at least remember how many engines they have.

14 posted on 08/11/2013 6:24:26 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Ditter
"It was so close I could see the other pilot..."

Back in '79 I was on an ATC FAM trip from O'Hare to Orlando & back, and had FOUR ATC 'incidents'. Two were damned close, one collision was averted by application of the 'Big Sky Theory' (we estimated zero altitude and less than 100' lateral) one resulted in a $16,000,000 accident, and two were resolved by attentive crew and observer.

It was several years before I flew again.

15 posted on 08/11/2013 6:32:56 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Yup, that was good ... no doubt as he was getting ready to change his shorts ... :-)


16 posted on 08/11/2013 6:39:11 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: SkyPilot
We definitely didn't have that in T-28’s.....LOL
17 posted on 08/11/2013 6:52:21 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: SkyPilot

I suspect that the T 38 might not have been used in UPT but rather fighter training school to have the HUD video recording.

If the near miss was a Texan II it would have been a major ATC screw up since both aircraft should have transponders.


18 posted on 08/11/2013 7:30:00 PM PDT by pterional
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To: diogenes ghost

If I had been sitting on the other side of the plane instead of in a window seat admiring the clouds, I would never have known how close we came. Our plane just pulled up and to the left and nothing was said about the reason for it.


19 posted on 08/11/2013 8:33:35 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

The NTSB had a LOT to say about my trip.


20 posted on 08/11/2013 9:05:11 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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