[IbJensen]

Video at link.

So we need a border enforcement law, first and foremost, that cannot be voided.

We have one, legislator that isn't enforced. What we need is a Congress that halts the legislation mill and awakens to the realization that this nation is being stolen while the Congress is stalling and continually churns out mountains of laws and regulations that have nothing to do with clarifying but everything to do with obfuscation, confusion and the creation of tremendous anger and frustration on the part of Americans.

America is saddled with a ruling class apparently determined to keep the influx of cheap labor going indefinitely,with no concern for the negative effects on the American people today or on future generations.

Solid conservatives must either take back the Republican Party, or establish with all speed a third political party that will decimate this ONE party system and put a stop to this insanity.

[cripplecreek]

I thought the green card was probation of a sort.

[Gaffer]

"That means go on probation," said Ryan. "You have to do certain terms of probation, and it's a one strike policy if you don't meet the conditions of your probation. Pay fines, pay back taxes, get a background check, learn English, learn civics and then make sure that we independently verify we've actually secured the border, we have our interior enforcement provisions like e-verify and a visa tracking system in place. Then and only then can that person get a legal work permit, no special path way. "And if a person in this situation wants to get in the line to get a green card, they can get in the line like any other immigrant, only at the back of the line, because we want to be fair to that legal immigrant who did everything right in the first place," said Ryan. "We think that's the right way to go. That's the opposite of amnesty."

Yeah...go on probation...learn English..back of the line .... learn civics....brush your teeth...comb your hair...blah blah blah. If this abortion of an immigration plan comes to fruition, who wants to bet how fast a lawsuit is filed on behalf of all 50 million for unequal treatment and violation of civil liberties? Yeah....if they were to go to the back of the line, then they'd fall at the end of quotas for each country, wouldn't they? I'm guessing Mexico, Chile, Nicaragua, et al don't have a combined quota of 50 million like these illegals will amount to.

This all idealist compromising elitist bullsh!t appeasement and self-delusion at the same time. There's a reason why they wanted to come here to and rob, rape and pillage our resources. A free country with laws that can/will be used against us. Under such laws, virtually EVERY ONE of these hokey conditions will be vacated. Count on it.

So, Mr. Ryan (here's hoping they boot your ass out of office next chance), it IS amnesty. Nothing but. And your promises are nothing but the same tripe a little two-year old will promise to keep from having to go to sleep. Shame on you, you snit.

[Hostage]

Any bill, ANY BILL that has a scarce mention of immigration will be:

*sent to the House-Senate conference committee
*gutted and replaced with a Senate Trojan for amnesty
*sent back to the House for a vote
*will pass with all the democrats and 18 moderate republicans voting for it.

In other words, ANY BILL will result in AMNESTY and a permanent democrat majority for generations to come.

NO BILL, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA, NOTHING UNTIL CONSERVATIVES CONTROL THE HOUSE, SENATE AND WHITE HOUSE!!!

[Tennessee Nana]

Friend-to-illegal-aliens-Traitor-to-America PING

[fieldmarshaldj]

No, Paul. Illegals leave the country and get in line and immigrate the LEGAL way. Just because they broke into our house, they don’t get a leg up. If anything, they should be permanently denied citizenship FOR breaking our laws.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”And if a person in this situation wants to get in the line to get a green card, they can get in the line like any other immigrant, only at the back of the line, because we want to be fair to that legal immigrant who did everything right in the first place,” said Ryan. “We think that's the right way to go. That's the opposite of amnesty.”

This is my takeaway point from Ryan, him claiming that giving those who came here and lived here illegally permanent legalization and citizenship is not amnesty because that is putting them to ‘ the back of the line’.
This is the Rubio line too.

As my tagline says, giving them citizenship while allowing them (ilegals) to live and work here is pushing them to the front of the line, so Rubio and Ryan are outright lying.

[9YearLurker]

What this traitor to our country is proposing is total amnesty.

[jmaroneps37]

How about this: Illegal aliens go home because we severely punish hiring any person who is here illegally. Then we set up a fund to start rounding up illegal males from 18 to 60 and send them back first cutting off support for their illegal Democrat families; we provide “Return home money” to their families to get them to leave as well; then we build a barrier on our borders - whatever that might be, fence or trench - and keep the damned doors slammed shut!

[Andy'smom]

As long as they are not made to go home and apply, it IS amnesty.

[Sloth]

I’m glad the “back of the line” language gets used so often, because you can instantly know that whoever uses it is flagrantly, deliberately lying.

[RFEngineer]

Ok, fine. Let’s invade Mexico then. take the place over. if they can come and go as they please anyway, we may as well own the place.

We can keep the fence they have between them and Guatemala.

[TomGuy]

"We don't have control of our border," said Ryan. "We don't know who is coming and going in this country. We need real border enforcement and that means we really don't trust the administration with discretion in this area. So we need a border enforcement law, first and foremost, that cannot be voided.

Then, pass a law mandating border enforcement with existing laws.

Prove you [government] can manage that and the other things could follow. Until you [government] prove you can do that, all else is the same meaningless rhetoric we have heard since the 1980s immigration bill.

Otherwise, WE DON'T TRUST YOU [government].

[Colonel_Flagg]

That’s a lot of work for what is still amnesty, Ryan.

Close the border first, close the border now. Make us a nation that respects the rule of law again.

[tumblindice]

FUPR!

[ZULU]

What career is Ryan going to follow when his butt is voted out of office?

[Nickname]

That can’t be voided?

Like congress and their staff having to participate in ObamaCare just like the rest of us?

Yeah, right.

[AdaGray]

Say good-night, Paul.

[unlearner]

With the Democrats in power the rule of law has been suspended. All laws are being selectively enforced and used as tools to advance a political agenda.

The best thing the Republicans can do on immigration is dig in their heels and stop any legislation from moving forward.

And we can hope and pray that Americans will come to their senses for the next two federal elections.

[novemberslady]

Paul Ryan and his people should stop wasting postage sending me letters asking for money.
Never again.

[Wurlitzer]

Every politician is playing this deceitful game with us.

If any criminal trespasser is allowed to stay in this country they must first be charged with the very first crime they committed and that was violating our sovereign borders. It is a felony and our politicians are making sure these sneak thieves are never charged with the proper crime.

WHY? Obvious, if they were charged for the crime they committed they could not vote.

ANY politician or government official who took an oath to support the US Constitution and allows any of these criminal trespassers to remain without being charged with that crime, must be, at bare minimum, removed from office.

Actually I would prefer to see some serious jail time for any government official who violates their oath to the Constitution.