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Rand Paul was right to highlight US drone policy
The Hill ^ | 03/08/13 | Nancy Mace, author, In the Company of Men

Posted on 08/03/2013 5:43:47 PM PDT by Resettozero

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Or so that's what our founders once declared.

With that responsibility, the Federal government has a duty to protect its citizens, providing certain unalienable rights.

So, it's no surprise then that Republicans and Democrats alike joined with Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) Wednesday supporting his filibuster to protest John Brennan's CIA nomination and bring attention to Obama's overreach of the Federal government with the U.S. drone program (of which Brennan was one of the chief architects).

Only Eric Holder could put it so eloquently, “President Barack Obama has the legal authority to unleash deadly force, such as drone strikes, against Americans on U.S. soil without first putting them on trial...”

But not every senator praised Paul's leadership. South Carolina's very own U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, chided Paul for his outspoken leadership. Instead, he patronized Paul as “ridiculous.”

Graham was against Brennan before the filibuster, calling him “arrogant, kind of a bit shifty.” But a few hours after dinner with the president, Graham was suddenly in favor of him, determining that the nomination was instead a referendum on the drone program.

As South Carolinians, we are no stranger to controversy. Our politics are notorious for it, for better or worse. Oftentimes for worse.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: demagogue; ibtz; lindseygraham; nancymace; ntsa; randsconcerntrolls; rinokeywordcowards; southcarolina; waronterror
I am posting this because it reveals the thinking of the newest S.C. conservative candidate before she announced this week that she will run to unseat Senator Lindsey Graham next year.

Several FReepers have indicated a wish to know more about Nancy Mace. I'm seeking to learn too. Perhaps this will help some, especially for potential voters in S.C.

1 posted on 08/03/2013 5:43:47 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: upchuck

ping


2 posted on 08/03/2013 5:46:30 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

The Constitution provides for liberty. It is up to the culture to provide morality.


3 posted on 08/03/2013 5:54:26 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush
It is up to the culture to provide morality.

Well then, we are screwed.

4 posted on 08/03/2013 5:59:55 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

Indeed.


5 posted on 08/03/2013 6:01:49 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: UCANSEE2

Yep, we sure are. Morality isn’t likely to come from political leadership, because of the corrupting nature of power. I think it all has to crash before it gets better. If that’s not true, I will be selling ammo dirt cheap at some point.


6 posted on 08/03/2013 6:32:08 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Resettozero

And right off the bat it gets it WRONG: “...the Federal government has a duty to protect its citizens, providing certain unalienable rights.”

The Fed gov’t does NOT *provide* Rights, it is instituted to protect Rights, as they are Inalienable.

Jeez, just how hard is it to get the debate started with the correct verbiage?! No wonder the Left has such an easy time whipping the opposition.


7 posted on 08/03/2013 8:49:23 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Gov't always start as MAY and SHOULD, but soon becomes one of WILL and SHALL. Never let them START.)
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To: Resettozero

I’m trying to be concerned about drones, but I’m having trouble. What’s the difference, really, between some agency using helicopters, or a drone? Other than the drone being more cost effective? They do the same thing. For some applications like the border patrol it seems to me to be a pretty good thing. If the cops are using a helicopter for air support, or they are using a drone... What’s the difference that creeps people out? I’m finding it hard to be bothered by it. What’s the impact on liberty?


8 posted on 08/03/2013 9:05:39 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Resettozero

To bad he waffled all over the place on this one subject.


9 posted on 08/03/2013 10:35:21 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Ramius
I’m trying to be concerned about drones, but I’m having trouble. What’s the difference, really, between some agency using helicopters, or a drone? Other than the drone being more cost effective? They do the same thing. For some applications like the border patrol it seems to me to be a pretty good thing. If the cops are using a helicopter for air support, or they are using a drone... What’s the difference that creeps people out? I’m finding it hard to be bothered by it. What’s the impact on liberty?

What is/was the impact on Liberty for any of thousands of baby-step government policies/capabilities over the last 150 years or so? With drones, deniability becomes easier and cost-effectiveness makes way for more of them. Stealthiness makes it less likely one will know he is being watched/targeted.

10 posted on 08/04/2013 4:05:36 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Ramius

I agree. If you are not engaged in criminal activity there should be no problem.

Aircraft have been used to surveil criminal activity for ever. Many states had police aircraft used to detect speeders. More recently and perhaps still, helicopters were used to find pot patches in National Forests and elsewhere. The same is true for a variety of criminal locating tasks in urban areas.


11 posted on 08/04/2013 4:32:47 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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