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Woman Falls 17 Stories to Her Death; AP Implies She Deserved It
Slate ^ | Aug. 2, 2013 | L.V. Anderson

Posted on 08/02/2013 3:44:57 PM PDT by grundle

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1 posted on 08/02/2013 3:44:57 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

There was a time in this country when people were allowed to smoke indoors.


2 posted on 08/02/2013 3:46:52 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: grundle

My wife totally freaks out when she sees our kids on a balcony....reading this story won’t help matters.


3 posted on 08/02/2013 3:49:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Joe 6-pack

There was a time in this country when they threw sluts off 17th floor balconies.


4 posted on 08/02/2013 3:50:06 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: grundle
implication???? facts are facts, i don't see that at all...
5 posted on 08/02/2013 3:55:02 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: grundle

It all started when she got out of the truck!


6 posted on 08/02/2013 3:55:11 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: grundle

The comments on the Slate article site are vicious. No pity, she should have known the dangers, too bad for her.

“Sex on the first date combined with smoking can be hazardous to your health” is the consensus IMO.

“OMG that poor woman. Prayers up.” will not be found at slate.com. But that is my sentiment at this tragic time.


7 posted on 08/02/2013 3:55:52 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: grundle

BURN THE WITCH!


8 posted on 08/02/2013 3:55:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: grundle

Sounds like the building owner should be in big trouble


9 posted on 08/02/2013 3:56:26 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Joe 6-pack
There was a time in this country when people were allowed to smoke indoors.

And force non-smokers to endure nasty, foul-smelling cigarette smoke.

10 posted on 08/02/2013 3:57:00 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: grundle

"I didn't know there was a pool down there."

11 posted on 08/02/2013 3:57:08 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: dfwgator; Chode
Preliminary FR verdict:

NOT GUILTY


12 posted on 08/02/2013 3:58:55 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: SVTCobra03
"And force non-smokers to endure nasty, foul-smelling cigarette smoke."

Well then we should ban farting too. And body odor. And too much cologne/perfume. Petition your government. I'm sure you'll find enough fellow nanny-staters to stand with your cause and pass even more laws, 'cause we don't have enough of those.

13 posted on 08/02/2013 4:00:28 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

What time was that?


14 posted on 08/02/2013 4:00:48 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: grundle

Let’s see, New York City (NYC), a bustling metropolis with just a few lawyers in the local area. The usual suspects; architect, materials provider, contractor, building inspector, union and Mafia ... eney, meeney, miny, moe ... choose one or all!

The idea of being unable to lean against a railing is ridiculous and I have this suspicion that NYC has more regulations about this than almost any other place on earth. Add some more regs?


15 posted on 08/02/2013 4:01:02 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government governs best when it governs least!)
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To: grundle

I read from another source - she used it to put her leg on as she stretched.

IIRC, inspection is due every 5 years for the balconies and was due this past February.

She didn’t lean or sit on it. Seems they are trying to make her sound clueless to suggest she would sit on it 17 floors high. They are merely blowing ‘smoke’ up readers’ butt. And that’s the smoke people should be allergic to!

BTW, Her ‘date’ lived two doors down.


16 posted on 08/02/2013 4:01:28 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: grundle

I read that AP story, and while I didn’t linger to analyze it, I did catch the strange accusatory tone of the writing, it was as though they didn’t like her.


17 posted on 08/02/2013 4:03:42 PM PDT by ansel12 ( The difference between libertarianism and conservatism is the libertarian liberalism, not economics)
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To: grundle

Dear God, please don’t let me die stupidly.


18 posted on 08/02/2013 4:05:29 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: ansel12
I read that AP story, and while I didn’t linger to analyze it, I did catch the strange accusatory tone of the writing, it was as though they didn’t like her.

Perhaps it was because she was a Joooooooo.

19 posted on 08/02/2013 4:06:25 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Even worse, he date was a Police non-emergency number dispatcher!


20 posted on 08/02/2013 4:07:15 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SVTCobra03

“And force non-smokers to endure nasty, foul-smelling cigarette smoke”

Non smokers were always free to leave


21 posted on 08/02/2013 4:08:59 PM PDT by Figment
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To: elcid1970

Sex on the first date - liberals assume everyone is like them. Their reasoning is if one is smoking, they just had sex.


22 posted on 08/02/2013 4:09:48 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: grundle

Slate is reading way too much into the article which simply tells what happened.


23 posted on 08/02/2013 4:10:53 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: grundle

“A 35-year-old media executive on a first date plunged to her death Thursday after the railing on her 17th-floor New York City balcony gave way, police said.”

The debasement of education in the use of the English language, to the detriment of accurate communication, continues to rise.

Note what Merriam Webster has ro say about “plunge”:

at: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plunge

It usually implies some form of willful act. In as much as the writers at AP cannot claim to know any motive the victim had for falling, the only PROPER word in the sentence I quoted, in place of “plunged” would have been “fell”.

But, their use of “plunged” goes together with their otherwise perjorative reporting of the tragedy, so maybe their use of “plunged” in its perjorative sense was intentional as well.


24 posted on 08/02/2013 4:11:07 PM PDT by Wuli (uir)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I still smoke inside. It's my house. I'll do what I like here.

/johnny

25 posted on 08/02/2013 4:13:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: dfwgator
Your wife is a smart woman. Balconies and pools are (understandably) considered desirable amenities, but they scare the bejesus out of me.
26 posted on 08/02/2013 4:17:06 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Figment; SVTCobra03
Non smokers were always free to leave

They are too clueless to think of that.

27 posted on 08/02/2013 4:17:34 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Chode

I agree with you. The New York papers may be trying to scrape up more details, but I haven’t detected an angle to the reporting.


28 posted on 08/02/2013 4:18:37 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: 1rudeboy

Probably never. Just made that up.


29 posted on 08/02/2013 4:20:20 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: dfwgator

Get real.


30 posted on 08/02/2013 4:21:54 PM PDT by ansel12 ( The difference between libertarianism and conservatism is the libertarian liberalism, not economics)
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To: Joe 6-pack

No one’s farting, bo, perfume lingers for hours or days, nor can you smell it from across the room. Those other smells don’t permeate someone else’s clothing either. There’s no comparison.


31 posted on 08/02/2013 4:22:43 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: dfwgator

Heights and my kids freak me out, too. When I’ve gone to UT and AZ with them and even here in CO, I don’t let them do any messing around when we’ve gone to scenic overlooks, etc.


32 posted on 08/02/2013 4:24:43 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: grundle

Sucks. Really sucks to be a smoker.


33 posted on 08/02/2013 4:29:29 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: beaversmom

Have you ever been up Trail Ridge Road?


34 posted on 08/02/2013 4:29:45 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: grundle

Railings don’t usually just give out with a thin woman like that leaning up against it. My guess is that her and her date were engaged in some sweet balcony sex when the railing gave out when his railing got too hard.


35 posted on 08/02/2013 4:29:55 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
"No one’s farting, bo, perfume lingers for hours or days, nor can you smell it from across the room. Those other smells don’t permeate someone else’s clothing either. There’s no comparison."

Oh...first it was just obnoxious and people don't like it. Now there's some persistency threshold. You nanny-staters will always find some justification for your desire to control people's behavior. Look...if a property owner, be it a residence, or public conveyance like a restaurant wants to restrict or prohibit smoking on their property I'm fine with that. When the government directs that a property owner restrict that, that's tyranny, which permeates more than clothes, and lingers far longer than tobacco smoke. But as long as you enjoy the stench, I guess you're all for it.

36 posted on 08/02/2013 4:30:33 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Chode
The reporting on this was far more accurate than we typically get from the MSM. We have had sixteen years with no statistically significant global warming and ten years of actual cooling, yet it is reported that global warming is happening worse than even the scariest predictions.

Polar bears are breeding and multiplying so successfully that they are now threatening seal populations and making repeated raids on Arctic villages. Yet it is reported that they are still near extinction.

The NSA under the Obama administration have been keeping detailed records on virtually everyone violating our 4th amendment rights yet it is reported that Edward Snowden is the traitor.

Obama provided us with an easily spotted fake birth certificate yet those of us who are concerned about this are the ones reported to be kooks.

Claims of sexism and racism are often more of a reflection of the person making the claim. There is absolutely nothing in the APs reporting that implies that she was a slut and that she had it coming. Those are all the conclusions of L.V. Anderson, the one crying racism and sexism.

I am not prepared to make any judgments about the woman's character just because she went out drinking, invited a black man she just met home to have sex with her and then fell off her 17th floor balcony after repeated warnings from her new friend.

I am sure that it was the apartment management's fault and the drinking alcohol and smoking who knows what had no effect on her judgment or balance and had nothing to do with her demise. Many drunk women who have just had sex with a stranger sit on weathered and partially rotted wooden railings 17 floors up while they smoke. If one checks I am sure that the same type of tragedy has played out many times even among Amish women.

37 posted on 08/02/2013 4:30:37 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Well played!


38 posted on 08/02/2013 4:30:39 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: SVTCobra03; Eric Blair 2084; Drango
And force non-smokers to endure nasty, foul-smelling cigarette smoke.

Yeah, no wonder he pushed her off the balcony. /sarc

Used to be the American way . . .

39 posted on 08/02/2013 4:32:29 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: grundle

I sincerely hope that, before she fell, that man gave her the night of her life.

RIP.


40 posted on 08/02/2013 4:33:07 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: beaversmom

Smart to be careful. Many a visitor death from ‘getting just the right camera angle’. Seven Falls in Colorado Springs comes to mind, as a pretty little thing died there not too many years ago doing just that.

Or the woman who stopped on an over-the-road iceflow, SUV slid sideways, then down 400 feet.


41 posted on 08/02/2013 4:33:35 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Guenevere

Have you ever been up Trail Ridge Road?

when i was much younger and stationed at ft carson i took my mom on trail ridge road. i was so focused on the driving i didn’t know i scared the crap out of her.


42 posted on 08/02/2013 4:36:36 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: Figment; SVTCobra03

All the non-smokers I know were once smokers and all of them admit they enjoy the 2nd hand smoke.

Now, people have been telling me I would die young and I am past 70 1/2. People have been telling me I would end up with crepe paper skin and now they are amazed to learn my age because I am told I don’t look it. I am perfectly willing to continue paying my own health care costs, since I have paid both sides of Medicare/SS forever, still pay because I am still vital enough to work and since I have only seen an MD for an injury in the past couple of years, take no medications and prior to the ER visit had seen a physician 3x in ten years to have a wart removed, I am obviously not a drain on our nation’s precious health resources. I am in fact, a net contributor in both taxes and health insurance premiums.

I am not alone nor am I some rare exception. I have watched non-smokers die of lung cancer and other terrible cancers.

So, SVTCobra03, I get that you detest all tobacco use. That is as much your right as it is my right and that of others to use tobacco. Figment spoke truth: non-smokers may leave the room if there are smokers present who are indulging.


43 posted on 08/02/2013 4:40:07 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Guenevere
Have you ever been up Trail Ridge Road?

Yes...last time I went up with my mom and kids Fall 2011. Very pretty and unseasonably warm even on top. Now that would have freaked me out as a kid and we did go up there when I was a child. I used to get in the back of my parent's Red Hornet and hide my head and cry. So I'm getting better. Mostly overlooks freak me out. I inch my way up to fence and I do quick looks over and take pics, but it's very serious business. :)

44 posted on 08/02/2013 4:40:29 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: presently no screen name
Seems they are trying to make her sound clueless to suggest she would sit on it 17 floors high.

Not implausible. I nearly knocked a co-ed out of a 7th-story dorm window in my senior year of college. She was sitting inside the window, her but and legs lined up along the edge. If I had actually made body contact, I might have ended up in jail for manslaughter.

45 posted on 08/02/2013 4:42:00 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: presently no screen name

That wasn’t her date that lived two doors down - it was someone else, and he heard the incident, but did not see it.


46 posted on 08/02/2013 4:43:09 PM PDT by grundle
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To: reformedliberal
...I am not alone nor am I some rare exception...

So you DON'T believe smoking is hazardous to your health?

Seriously?

47 posted on 08/02/2013 4:44:12 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Toooo funny.


48 posted on 08/02/2013 4:44:47 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Whoah! Someone died on 7 Falls? I was there just this year!


49 posted on 08/02/2013 4:45:01 PM PDT by MNDude (The system worked!)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Many a visitor death from ‘getting just the right camera angle’.

Always think about this one from 2011:

Chain-reaction rescue killed three at Yosemite
FR link

Several people in a hiking group at Yosemite that included three who were swept away and presumed dead had climbed over a barricade and were in the water about 25 feet from the edge of a waterfall, standing, playing and taking photographs, witnesses told Yosemite rangers.

50 posted on 08/02/2013 4:45:51 PM PDT by beaversmom
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