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Swiss trains collide
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Posted on 07/29/2013 5:49:14 PM PDT by nuconvert

Swiss television, citing local police, reports that 44 people have been injured, four of them seriously, in a head-on train collision in the west of the country.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: switzerland; train
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1 posted on 07/29/2013 5:49:14 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
Whatever happened to Willie Green and his ill-fated campaign to bring high-speed rail to America?

My theory is that he finally went off the rails.

2 posted on 07/29/2013 5:51:36 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: nuconvert

Geez, High speed rail crash, four or five buses and now another train. Must be global warming.


3 posted on 07/29/2013 5:55:37 PM PDT by wita
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To: nuconvert

Buses and trains...what is going on out there this week?


4 posted on 07/29/2013 5:57:55 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: nuconvert
Recent train wrecks.

Spain: Too high of speed rounding a corner.
Switzerland: Head on collision.
US: Obamacare.

5 posted on 07/29/2013 5:58:18 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: nuconvert

Not surprised with train crashes in Spain, but Switzerland?


6 posted on 07/29/2013 6:02:30 PM PDT by Gamecock (Member: NAACAC)
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To: Gamecock

That’ll teach them to be neutral.


7 posted on 07/29/2013 6:04:28 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SamAdams76; nuconvert

Strangely, a lot of these were the product of human error. The engineers on the Canadian train that rolled into a village and exploded didn’t set the brakes correctly for the angle. And now they are saying the Spanish engineer may even have been texting when he lost control of the train.

Obviously, what is needed is a sort of dual human-mechanical system. In Spain, that actually would have existed, except that it was assumed that any driver in his right mind would slow down before entering the station...hence the company had actually stopped the automatic braking system a few kilometers earlier. So one can’t make any assumptions about human infallibility.

All told, there are fewer deaths in mass transit, but when it happens, since it’s “mass” transit, there’s a lot of them.


8 posted on 07/29/2013 6:05:28 PM PDT by livius
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To: KarlInOhio

Ok, that was funny. Thanks!


9 posted on 07/29/2013 6:05:57 PM PDT by CityCenter (Pleading the 5th is just so 1972.)
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To: Gamecock

I once spent almost two days on a train in Switzerland getting exactly nowhere.

I was supposed to board a plane in the next town over from Montreaux, that uncivilzed little boil of casinos and clockmongers. But it turned ot the plane was “having problems”. Later, we learned it was the pilot having problems. With drink. So they ferried us across the country to Zurich, a trek on which we were served no food and where the train *twice* had to switch direction ond go very far back to let another train pass.

I came out of Switzerland with two items of use: two swiss army knives.


10 posted on 07/29/2013 6:13:39 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: livius

I was just about to say once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, thrice is enemy action.


11 posted on 07/29/2013 6:25:39 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: wita

No,it’s George Bush!


12 posted on 07/29/2013 6:30:15 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: livius

Is there such a thing in Europe as affirmative action hires?


13 posted on 07/29/2013 6:50:31 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: sportutegrl

There may be, but the Spanish train engineer was a native European, had worked for the company for 30 years and had been on that route for two years. He was just paying no attention to what he was doing.

I do think their heavy unionization makes them a little more irresponsible, however.


14 posted on 07/29/2013 7:01:02 PM PDT by livius
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To: txhurl

Normally, I would think so. For example, if they were all inexplicable derailments. But it seems that the circumstances (although I don’t know anything about the Swiss collision yet) were very different.

The Spanish derailment and the Canadian explosion definitely seem to have been human error. Was any cause found for the French derailment?


15 posted on 07/29/2013 7:03:26 PM PDT by livius
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To: nuconvert
I thought the Swiss had warning systems to make head-on train collisions next-to-impossible.

16 posted on 07/29/2013 7:26:11 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: nuconvert

Someone unaware of basic physics .... two objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time?


17 posted on 07/29/2013 7:46:48 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The only growth industries left under Progressives are government and poverty.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
Two objects with mass
18 posted on 07/29/2013 7:47:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN; RetiredTexasVet
two objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time?

Two objects with mass

"Wave–particle duality postulates that all particles exhibit both wave and particle properties." (link.) Photons may be massless, but electrons certainly have mass. This principle also applies to large particles, such as protons and neutrons.

Particles are "like dancing points of energy," so several particles can occupy the same place at the same time - it happens whenever one particle decays into several other particles.

Macroscopic objects cannot be described as waves; however they have other interesting effects that are nearly equivalent. Take a bucket of water and add a drop of ink to it. The ink occupies the same macroscopic space as the water.

One could say that two solid objects cannot occupy the same space. However alloys are solid mixes of several elements (metals and non-metals.) On a higher level, a key can occupy the same space as the lock.

19 posted on 07/29/2013 8:57:56 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: nuconvert

When did Obozo take over the train system in Europe. I missed that somehow. But he obviously has.


20 posted on 07/29/2013 9:34:54 PM PDT by Newtoidaho
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