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PRINCE ALWALEED: Fracking Is Going To Crush The Saudi Economy If Nothing Is Done
Business Insider ^ | 07/29/2013 | Rob Wile

Posted on 07/29/2013 7:39:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Carry_Okie

Trash, recycling hydrocarbons. Not biomass, sorry I brought that up. To me, biomass is yard clippings scrap two by fours, plastic waste.

Scraping up the forest to burn is agreeably insane.


101 posted on 07/29/2013 1:16:50 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
To me, biomass is yard clippings scrap two by fours, plastic waste.

In our county, ALL of that with the exception of the plastic and treated wood is being converted to compost and sold to farmers. The plastic is recycled.

102 posted on 07/29/2013 1:29:36 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Isn’t that amazing news? My husband was at a state-wide conference where they were talking about it. He was stunned! We did not expect to agree with Moonbeam on ONE THING.


103 posted on 07/29/2013 1:39:57 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Carry_Okie; sauropod; SierraWasp; Ernest_at_the_Beach; stephenjohnbanker
I learned two very important words from my high school Latin: Cui Bono which means who benefits.

My Latin teacher, when I challenged her about what value Latin would be to me in real life, told me about: Cui Bono. She said to apply that question to any complex issue involving people. When you determine, who benefits, the bs/lies and propaganda falls to one side.

Cui bono: So what people/group have benefited from the Green Economic Terrorists the past decades in America and worldwide?

Cui bono? The Opecker Princes/Thugs and the phoney non profits receiving mass amounts of Opecker money to spend on politicians to spread their lies in America and world wide.

My comment re the Opecker Princes does not just include the Saudi Opeckers, it includes all of the Opecker Thug/Princes/serial killing despots in control of their govenments. They have been messing with our economy and politics since the 1960's and probably the decade before with the bs that America as running out of oil. Which now any sane person realizes that was a lie for over 5 decades.

Anyone who doesn't believe that the Opecker Princes/thugs/despots are using their mass riches to influence politicians world wide and voters world wide needs a drug test or some injectable coffee to wake them up. Opecker money has flowed into the Enviro Terrorists for decades.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist or a book writer to realize the Opecker Princes/Thugs benefit daily and have for decades with their funded lackey enviro terrorists via the so called non profits.

A little history of OPEC, showing that it isn't just the Saudi Opecker Princes:

The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) was founded in Baghdad, Iraq, with the signing of an agreement in September 1960 by five countries namely Islamic Republic of Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. They were to become the Founder Members of the Organization.

These countries were later joined by Qatar (1961), Indonesia (1962), Libya (1962), the United Arab Emirates (1967), Algeria (1969), Nigeria (1971), Ecuador (1973), Gabon (1975) and Angola (2007).

From December 1992 until October 2007, Ecuador suspended its membership. Gabon terminated its membership in 1995. Indonesia suspended its membership effective January 2009.

Currently, the Organization has a total of 12 Member Countries.

How many of the above countries would benefit from an energy independent and energy exporting America?

Any doubt that they would not fund the green eco terrorists pseudo non profits to sabotage any hope of an energy independent and energy exporting America?

Cui bono is the bs eliminator when those in life don't want the real truth out in the world.

104 posted on 07/30/2013 7:33:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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To: Grampa Dave
I learned two very important words from my high school Latin: Cui Bono which means who benefits.

Qui bono is a way to identify a suspicion; it does not establish fact. What you have done is to apply it unevenly, in a manner every bit as self-reinforcing as any leftist propagandist.

What you have a suspicion, you test it. The problem for you is that this assertion flunks the test of research. It is an assumption not supported by data. Here on FR, we use DATA, with sources because we're tired of propaganda and believe in facts. I have never once seen you back up your otherwise legitimate hypothesis with substantial evidence.

Do it. Back it up with facts. You agreed that 90% of the funding for the greenies comes from OPEC. Prove it.

My comment re the Opecker Princes does not just include the Saudi Opeckers, it includes all of the Opecker Thug/Princes/serial killing despots in control of their govenments.

This isn't about one "comment" and you know it. You've been babbling "Opecker Princes" being the primary funding source behind the greens for over a decade. So, I won't take your slimy redefinition of what it is to be in OPEC so that you can weasel out of the corner into which you've painted yourself. You have an unambiguous record that routinely does not mention American affiliates and beneficiaries of green racketeering as "Opecker Princes." The US is not a member of OPEC, nor are there any "Princes" here.

Any doubt that they would not fund the green eco terrorists pseudo non profits to sabotage any hope of an energy independent and energy exporting America?

I have doubts, because I have not found substantial evidence of OPEC funding for green groups extending over decades. So, prove your assertion; head on over to activistcash.com and start digging, because I know what you'll find and it isn't much.

On the other hand, "qui bono" certainly indicates that the major stockholders of American, British, and French oil companies (not to mention the Russians) DO benefit from green racketeering. I have DATA showing that it is primarily those very Americans using tax-exempt "charitable" foundations to fund the greens for over fifty years. It started long before OPEC even existed. It was BP and Shell money that started the World Wildlife Fund and the IUCN. It was BP money that started Greenpeace. It was Exxon/Mobil money that started the Environmental Grantmakers Association. It was Sunoco, Citgo, and Exxon money that founded the NRDC.

Cui bono is the bs eliminator when those in life don't want the real truth out in the world.

Interestingly, you, Dave, have consistently avoided including American investors in your charges. Why is that Dave? Is it because of stocks you own?

Qui bono?

The Arabs have been bit players by comparison in American environmental groups. You have been betrayed. Deal with it.

105 posted on 07/30/2013 8:30:21 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indentured constituency for 150 years.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Yep, I feel betrayed.


106 posted on 07/30/2013 9:07:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Re investments:

Mostly cds: 80%

Some etfs: BOND, USMV, DIV, AOM, HDV

Mutual Funds: GLRBX, PVSAX, FPACX

I haven’t invested in single companies for over a decade, and I avoid the energy etfs and funds.

Please don’t bother me any more. At age 74, I don’t waste my time talking to time wasters.


107 posted on 07/30/2013 9:36:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Now that's data, and I'll take it. See? You DO know how to do that.

Now go back and show me how OPEC countries dominate the donations to environmental groups, or cut the crap.

108 posted on 07/30/2013 9:52:50 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indentured constituency for 150 years.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The link below will take Freepers to the many excellent articles on Fracking and how/why the enviro whackos, Opecker Thug supporters and rats worse fear is the coming of fracking here and around the world.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/fracking/index


109 posted on 07/31/2013 8:12:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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