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Zimmerman/Martin and the Immorality of self-defence
The Commentator ^ | July 27, 2013 | Charles Crawford

Posted on 07/27/2013 3:18:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Danny Nightingale a convicted man

Buried deep in the judge’s sentencing explanation in the Danny Nightingale case (a former SAS sniper sentenced to two years’ suspended prison sentence for possessing a Glock pistol and 300 rounds of ammunition) is this astonishing observation:

"It is because the unlawful possession of a firearm endangers society that even where mitigation appears very strong significant sentences are still appropriate.

"There are many examples of such cases. For instance in 2006 a defendant called Blackall had been shot and rendered a paraplegic by an unknown gunman who was never identified. On a further occasion a man knocked at the defendant’s front door and put a gun to his head. He reported this to the police but no one was apprehended.

"He kept a loaded revolver thereafter for his own protection. Four months later the police came to his house and he told them where his gun was. His exceptional circumstances were taken into account to reduce the sentence of five years to three years imprisonment."

Do our eyes deceive us? Is it true that a fellow citizen rendered paraplegic by an unknown gunman was sent to prison for ‘only’ three years for owning a gun for self-protection?

Seems so. Blackstone’s Criminal Practice Bulletin (April, 2006) tells us what is happening:

"The Firearms Act is unique in setting a minimum sentence for the first, rather than a repeat offence … and in allowing no reduction in sentence for a plea of guilty, no matter how timely that plea may have been."(continued)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; selfdefense; trayvon; trayvonmartin; ungland; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/27/2013 3:18:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s England... and our own Lib’s want us just as disarmed and fearful as the “formerly dominant” citizenry of Jolly old England.


2 posted on 07/27/2013 3:23:09 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The difference between the UK and US is that we believe we get our rights from God. They may believe they get their rights from their royalty.

By delegating authority to the government to provide for my safety, I don't relinquish my own authority or responsibility for my safety.

We've deputized the government to protect us, but when it's all said and done, each one of us is the ultimate person responsible for our own safety.

3 posted on 07/27/2013 3:42:53 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: The Working Man

apostrophe alert:
our own Libs, not our own Lib’s.


4 posted on 07/27/2013 3:49:34 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: oldbrowser

That is American Exceptionalism: our constitution does not give us our rights, it gives the government it’s powers.

There’s no other system like that in the world. All other countries have systems based on feudalist principles, moderated to more or less extent.


5 posted on 07/27/2013 3:50:41 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If I had to live in panty waist land, (AKA England) I would make a really good zip gun. Then if I ever had to use it, I would dismantle it after the fact and burn all the pieces.

And then I would shut up.

“Wuzn’t me, you got no proof. Nobody saw nuthin. You got no witness. I didn’t do it, nobody saw me do it, you got nuthin.”

“It was probably some black or white guy named Corsey happened along and that’s all there was to that!”

Trouble with Brits is that, just like Japanese, they get all introspective and then rat themselves out.

Never could understand the mentality.


6 posted on 07/27/2013 4:00:46 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslymz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: kabumpo

Ahhh, finally caught by the grammar patrol. It’s a new first for me, I’ll print this out and post it on my wall to remind me forever.

Thank you, Thank you!


7 posted on 07/27/2013 4:01:06 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: kabumpo

HeeHeeHeeHee,

Hey, Ka Bumpo! Hang onto your shirt friend, the anti spelling-nazis are going to get you!

LOL

Can see the posts now: “Whatzit madder? HUH? HUH? You thinc u r bedder then me?

U new wot I ment, so whatzit madder? Arrigint bustard!!”

If I reach into my archive of rejoinders from when I expressed pain and grief over the state of what passes for good English, I could write a novel!

OTH, keep up the good work, because I KNOW it p!$$es off the lazies to no end.

LOL.


8 posted on 07/27/2013 4:11:53 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslymz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Maybe they are still bitter from us winning the Revolutionary War where citizens as well as the army fought them and defeated them.

We learned well from that experience what a tyrannical government can do and how to counter it.

9 posted on 07/27/2013 4:20:59 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: kabumpo

Hey, Working Man,

That wasn’t a poke at you. Just making fun of all the folks with a public skool education.

What did that witness say? “Thass ol skool, weez new skool.”

Have a good weekend.


10 posted on 07/27/2013 4:21:13 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslymz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

yep, that was a reference to the Jury, they haz they facts


11 posted on 07/27/2013 4:25:22 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ungland...
12 posted on 07/27/2013 4:33:09 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: oldbrowser
"But statistics from the United States show that guns are used by citizens to defend themselves around eighty times more often than they are used to take a life. A recent study published in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy concluded that there is a negative correlation between gun ownership and violent crime in countries internationally, that is, “where firearms are most dense violent crime rates are lowest, and where guns are least dense violent crime rates are highest."

Britain wants its guns back

13 posted on 07/27/2013 4:50:46 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: ConradofMontferrat
“It was probably some black or white guy named Corsey happened along and that’s all there was to that!”

It was a bald guy, someone called him "Curly", kinda chubby but rail thin.

14 posted on 07/27/2013 5:08:39 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: kabumpo

Regarding the apostrophe alert: The poster may have used it to denote the contraction of the word liberals to lib’s, just like in the contraction can’t (cannot).


15 posted on 07/27/2013 5:13:09 PM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: The Working Man

England. Is there a man in that place?


16 posted on 07/27/2013 5:17:57 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Don W

LOL, what?
Step away from the grammar textbook and come out with your hand’s up.


17 posted on 07/27/2013 5:19:51 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: mrsmith
Rights are enumerated in The Bill of Rights.
18 posted on 07/27/2013 6:20:45 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

please some english person tell me again how everything’s hunky dory - ie “grand” - with your ability to own, possess and effectively use firearms in self defense.


19 posted on 07/27/2013 6:23:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Lancey Howard

they buried the last one this year. maggie thatcher.


20 posted on 07/27/2013 6:25:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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