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Did George Zimmerman Get Away With Murder? (Surprising from this source)
Slate ^ | July 26, 2013 | William Saletan

Posted on 07/26/2013 12:15:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Robin Roberts interviews Juror B29, the only minority juror from the George Zimmerman trial, on an episode of "Good Morning America" that aired July 26, 2013.

Did George Zimmerman get away with murder? That’s what one of his jurors says, according to headlines in the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune, and dozens of other newspapers. Trayvon Martin’s mother and the Martin family’s attorney are trumpeting this “new information” as proof that “George Zimmerman literally got away with murder.”

The reports are based on an ABC News interview with Juror B29, the sole nonwhite juror. She has identified herself only by her first name, Maddy. She’s been framed as the woman who was bullied out of voting to convict Zimmerman. But that’s not true. She stands by the verdict. She yielded to the evidence and the law, not to bullying. She thinks Zimmerman was morally culpable but not legally guilty. And she wants us to distinguish between this trial and larger questions of race and justice.

ABC News hasn’t posted a full unedited video or transcript of the interview. The video that has been broadcast—on World News Tonight, Nightline, and Good Morning America—has been cut and spliced in different ways, often so artfully that the transitions appear continuous. So beware what you’re seeing. But the video that’s available already shows, on closer inspection, that Maddy has been manipulated and misrepresented. Here are the key points.

1. The phrase “got away with murder” was put in her mouth. Nightline shows ABC interviewer Robin Roberts asking Maddy: “Some people have said, ‘George Zimmerman got away with murder. How do you respond to those people who say that?’ ”(continued)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; jurors; msm; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/26/2013 12:15:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So there WAS a black on the jury.

Or is she black Hispanic?

Or is she “self identifying Hispanic”?

Tough to keep up...


2 posted on 07/26/2013 12:18:29 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And this sounds like yet another NBC chop job lawsuit for GZ.


3 posted on 07/26/2013 12:19:19 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Of COURSE not.

The stupid bitch that implied that, RELIEVED HIM OF ANY GUILT WHATSOEVER.

IF ...

IF ... it continues to be proffered that Z murdered, The jury is complicit and subject to being co-conspiritors.

Nope ... didn't even stay in a Holiday Inn last night

4 posted on 07/26/2013 12:20:52 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, is she advertising for a book deal?


5 posted on 07/26/2013 12:23:25 PM PDT by Mark17 (This creepy a$$ cracker is retiring in the Philippines)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All this hinges on the assumption that Zimmerman wanted to kill a black person. So when he saw one he just grabbed his gun and went after him. And of course, what everyone does when they’re out hunting blacks is call 911 first. The whole scenario is ridiculous.


6 posted on 07/26/2013 12:24:19 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: knarf

I’m guessing she has no clue as to the legal or biblical definition of “murder”.


7 posted on 07/26/2013 12:25:04 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Happens everyday,, just ask OJ


8 posted on 07/26/2013 12:25:51 PM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Telepathic Intruder

He got on the phone, yelled for people to come out, only shot ONE TIME, all in a vast conspiracy to be put on trial and found not guilty.

He also bashed his own head on the concrete so he’d have injuries as part of the conspiracy.

(BTW, there are people on the net saying what I posted above. Life is beyond satire.)


9 posted on 07/26/2013 12:26:19 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: MrB

All of this crap because GZ didn’t want to go to the store and buy his own skittles and watermelon drink.


10 posted on 07/26/2013 12:26:37 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

George Zimmerman’s Black Ancestry is Revealed
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2876811/posts

George Zimmerman: the black, Hispanic, Peruvian, kind-hearted non-white, not-racist poster boy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2876692/posts

George Zimmerman Has ‘Black Roots’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2876518/posts


11 posted on 07/26/2013 12:26:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

And he didn’t even get to eat or drink ‘em because the police, that he called, got there too soon.


12 posted on 07/26/2013 12:27:10 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hmmmm... No, Z didn't get away w/ murder. Stand-your-ground trumped stand-your-ground-and-pound. Who DID get away w/ murder? O.J. But did Robin Roberts or any black reporters try to pry that out of anybody? <<>>
13 posted on 07/26/2013 12:27:44 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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To: TigerClaws

I guess the “all white jury” meme is gone and replaced with a juror being manipulated by the press.


14 posted on 07/26/2013 12:27:47 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Telepathic Intruder

it was not 911, it a non-emergency number (used by Night Watchmen I guess)


15 posted on 07/26/2013 12:28:36 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Zimmerman situation is a product of the fear of the revoking of the RACE CARD.

Obama president. Holder attorney general. Only country in history where a minority race was elected in a democracy as leader.

No more Affirmative Action? Victimhood? Civil rights shakedown artists out of work?

Then along came Zimmerman...

The part black (likely legally black in most southern states) Hispanic Democrat Obama supporter who was amazingly turned white and all of the ‘black oppression’ hucksters are back in business.

Zimmerman was just a slight casualty (as was Trayvon Martin) in service to the cause. Individuals don’t matter to collectivists.


16 posted on 07/26/2013 12:29:29 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

I think they go after the “presumption of innocence” next


17 posted on 07/26/2013 12:30:05 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: TigerClaws
Maddy was keen enough to understand the law in Florida and apply it to the evidence presented to her. I applaud her as a good American.

She is now being manipulated by professional devils who have an agenda which is more important than the fact that they are twisting what Maddy said to make her into a support fob for the agenda the media vermin have been instructed to push.

What they are doing to Maddy ought to be a reminder to any other jurors, that the media will twist what you say to fit their agenda and they don't give a damn who they sacrifice in the process.

18 posted on 07/26/2013 12:31:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: knarf

You are absolutely out of order. Maddy is not a stupid b*tch and she did not say what the media are twisting her words to mean.


19 posted on 07/26/2013 12:33:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d like those who edited to video to push a false narrative to share in the liability, along with Obama, for those who are harmed or killed by the fanning of racial tension.


20 posted on 07/26/2013 12:34:06 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Mark17
So she started out with the theory that he was guilty....

Yup....but is her story worthy of a book??

Her next best bet is getting invited to the White House...and start touring with Tray's family...

Something kinda smells doesn't it.

21 posted on 07/26/2013 12:34:09 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She looks Filipino.


22 posted on 07/26/2013 12:35:09 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only thing that could make this whole Zimmerman thing a bigger fiasco than it already is would be for B-29 to come out and say that her name is Enola Gay.


23 posted on 07/26/2013 12:35:37 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Amnesty. The DemocRATS' payback for the 2010 elections.)
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To: Sacajaweau

How about: “But you had the ability to hang the jury. Had you not voted to acquit, George Zimmerman would still be facing charges.”

This seems like a total sham. How will she get out of being threatened yet still cash in on this?

Come out with this b.s.

Even then, she is confused and being manipulated by the interviewer.


24 posted on 07/26/2013 12:35:48 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Mark17
So, is she advertising for a book deal?

Sounds to me like she's now working for some group that's pushing for outlawing self-defense arguments (in cases where the proper races are involved). Most likely one of the groups that evolved from the re branding of ACORN and received extremely heavy funding via the "stimulus".

In other words, she's indirectly on Obama's payroll now (paid for by us).

25 posted on 07/26/2013 12:35:49 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: GeronL

Most police departments have a non-emergency number, for use by anyone that needs to call the police for routine or non-urgent matters.

911 is not supposed to be used except for things that require an immediate response.


26 posted on 07/26/2013 12:35:56 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blood on your hands if any ‘Trayvons’ go out and kill a white person because you put the idea in their head that GZ ‘got away with murder’.


27 posted on 07/26/2013 12:38:12 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had always hoped that once people heard incontrovertible truth, they would adjust their beliefs accordingly. What has been proven is that the stupid, the racists, the perpetual black victim class, delusional white libtards and idiots like B29 will cling to their stupidity to the end.


28 posted on 07/26/2013 12:40:11 PM PDT by Zman516
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wonder if some one happened to check her phone logs and email if it would be found out she’s had contact from the DOJ or Obama directly?


29 posted on 07/26/2013 12:41:28 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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30 posted on 07/26/2013 12:42:55 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Slate has actually had some good articles on Zimmerman.

Also, I actually read an article on the Huffington Post recently. The article was typical liberal trash, but the comments were running at least 80% in favor of Zimmerman and self defense laws.

About half of my family was born & bred in the Philippines. I assure you, the Filipinos I know have ZERO ‘white guilt’. I think the liberals are trying to live in the 60s. But in 2013, I know as many mixed race marriages - more, in fact - that I do white-white, unless it is white-(white hispanic).

I’ve started taking classes at the local community college. If anyone there feels any ‘white guilt’, they are at least 40 years old. The ones in their 20s and early 30s have dated interracially and live interracially. Many are still liberal, but they don’t seem to believe anyone owes any race anything.


31 posted on 07/26/2013 12:43:35 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Zman516
Maddy has an entire media blitz aimed at twisting her words and leading her into saying things the media can misconstrue. But look at how easily the media manipulated you into making such a stupid accusation toward a woman who understood the law and applied it correctly.

Maddy should get out of the spotlight. You, well, you should know when to keep your 'mouth' shut 'cause you've made a fool of yourself to anyone who is keeping up with the details of the story despite the media blitz of deceptions.

32 posted on 07/26/2013 12:46:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: TigerClaws

She’s OF COLOR. And also OF IGNORANT.


33 posted on 07/26/2013 12:46:23 PM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It was a senseless killing. Martin was killed while beating Zimmerman senseless.


34 posted on 07/26/2013 12:47:06 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (o : Tagline Test ; -)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I”ve been reading about the case a lot and listening a great deal. I heard that she was Puerto Rican. If so, that explains a lot of the racial confusion because many, of not most, Puerto Ricans are mixed Hispanic and black.


35 posted on 07/26/2013 12:47:35 PM PDT by libstripper (A)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“She’s been framed as the woman who was bullied out of voting to convict Zimmerman”

Because she’s too stupid to figure out what not guilty means.


36 posted on 07/26/2013 12:48:37 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did they interview the nonblacks? No? They are racist bastards.


37 posted on 07/26/2013 12:54:51 PM PDT by I want the USA back (We live in a fascist dictatorship, thanks to half the public having its head up its a$$.)
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To: MHGinTN

So what “fool” should have kept their mouth shut?

Your buddy B29.


38 posted on 07/26/2013 12:58:41 PM PDT by Zman516
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To: MHGinTN
Begging your pardon, sir ... start at 2min
39 posted on 07/26/2013 1:07:25 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf
I heard her say that Zimmerman was qguilty. Then I heard Robin racist Roberts ask her guilty of what. Then I heard this sad lady say 'Guilty of killing Treyvon Martin'. Then I watched as a salivating media gaggle steered this woman into baring her emotions over having had to follow the law. She followed the law. She did what was right by our Constitutional Republic.

Yes, she is mistaken about the nature of murder or kill. The Commandment reads 'Thou shalt not murder'. It does not say thou shalt not kill. because she is mistaken some folks want to crucify her even though she did the right thing according tot he law!

And look what irrational crap comes spewing forth on this very thread! Look at how easily some so called conservatives are manipulated into making stupid accusations over the emotions wrung out of a woman who did the right thing when the chips were on the line!

40 posted on 07/26/2013 1:15:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Opinions are like a##holes etc....


41 posted on 07/26/2013 1:15:54 PM PDT by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms.....")
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To: MHGinTN
I agree ... which is why I italicized .. "implied that ".

She still used the word ... even after thoughtful reflection.

42 posted on 07/26/2013 1:17:31 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Mr Rogers
About half of my family was born & bred in the Philippines. I assure you, the Filipinos I know have ZERO ‘white guilt’.

My wife is a Filipina, and I can assure you, that is 100% true.

43 posted on 07/26/2013 1:18:08 PM PDT by Mark17 (This creepy a$$ cracker is retiring in the Philippines)
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To: MHGinTN

Why did she feel the need to even go public?


44 posted on 07/26/2013 1:18:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Zman516
Interesting effort there, silly goose. I dare say I could be a friend to Maddy, but I will never meet her this side of Heaven. What I do see plainly is that she is low on data and high on emotions and having her emotions manipulated then exploited.

When someone tells me the Martin family is hurting, I ask where it hurts, at which million dollar gain level from exploting st skittle's death does it hurt? Do you think ABC would have another interview with Maddy, once hse finds out just how much the Martin family has exploited the shooting for financial gain and their overexposure in the media? Hah, only if there are viewers like you who can be further manipulated with the game.

45 posted on 07/26/2013 1:20:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: dfwgator
Human weakness I would guess. When the media is not seen for what they are, folks tend to believe the media are benign. This woman is probably as low information a voter as they have around most of America. The media have led her down a false trail for so long that she is not able to discern he agenda which she is being manipulated into serving.

I keep going back to the fact that in the end, when the life of George Zimmerman was on the line, she made the correct decision and followed the law. For that she is a good American.

Did you know that the networks all use professional psychological profilers, to give them an idea of how to manipulate out of any guest what is the their (network sycophantic cadre of liars) agenda?

46 posted on 07/26/2013 1:27:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: knarf
You see the issue at hand. But I knew you would. You've been freeping too long to be too far off the marks.

What is sad is the degree to which this poor gal has been programmed by the media now exploiting her. And she doesn't appear to have a clue regarding their using her shamefully.

47 posted on 07/26/2013 1:30:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: TigerClaws
Only country in history where a minority race was elected in a democracy as leader.

Fujimori of Peru? Disraeli?

48 posted on 07/26/2013 1:37:17 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: MHGinTN

FYI, I am NOT a viewer of ABC, NBC, CBS, et.al. I wouldn’t know one of their anchors from the next. I get my “news” here or on conservative talk radio. All I know is that she ignited another unnecessary firestorm with her public “Zim got away with murder” comment.


49 posted on 07/26/2013 1:55:03 PM PDT by Zman516
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How anyone could sit through that trial, and come out thinking what Zimmerman did was murder is amazing. She is transforming herself from enemy of the radical black people to one of their heroes. Wonder how much money she has been offered.

The good that will come out of this is white people waking up, and recognizing how violent and murderous blacks have become. Projecting the sins of America upon Zimmerman is proving to be a failed policy. The biggest social/cultural problems black Americans face, as well as every American race, is black American militance and violence.


50 posted on 07/26/2013 1:59:46 PM PDT by pallis
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