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Obama threatens defense veto if health care premiums for military not increased
Examiner ^ | July 24, 2013 | Joe Newby

Posted on 07/25/2013 4:31:10 PM PDT by Red Steel

The Obama administration is threatening to veto the 2014 defense authorization bill unless health care insurance premiums and co-pays are increased, Investor's Business Daily said Wednesday. The administration also wants to reduce the proposed 1.8 percent pay increase for military personnel.

According to the Army Times, the administration says the bill is "too generous with military pay" and not generous enough for civilian employees. The administration only wants to give service members a one percent raise.

"A 1.8 percent increase would keep pace [with] the average increase last year in private sector salaries, while the 1 percent raise would create a slight gap," the Army Times said. Obama's proposed increase would be the first raise in over a decade that failed to keep pace with the private sector, IBD said.

The administration has also proposed cost-cutting measures like increased Tricare health fees for military retirees.

Citing the Navy Times, IBD said Obama's proposal includes a freeze for 2014 for Medicare-eligible retirees in the Tricare for Life program.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abortion; benghazi; deathpanels; defense; fastandfurious; impeachnow; irs; militaryhealthcare; obama; obamacare; tricare; zerocare
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1 posted on 07/25/2013 4:31:10 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

One of these days our military may finally get the same idea that Egypt’s did.


2 posted on 07/25/2013 4:34:50 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: Red Steel

I dare him.


3 posted on 07/25/2013 4:35:47 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (The Cardinals chose wisely.)
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To: Nachum

Ping.


4 posted on 07/25/2013 4:36:21 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SCHROLL

Or Chile.


5 posted on 07/25/2013 4:36:33 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Red Steel

First thing to ground would be Air Force One.


6 posted on 07/25/2013 4:36:43 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Red Steel

FUBO!


7 posted on 07/25/2013 4:38:20 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Red Steel

Guess we cant afford to give guns to the Muslim Brotherhood now either.


8 posted on 07/25/2013 4:38:33 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

Do to Air Force One what Harry Truman did to MacArthurs plane.


9 posted on 07/25/2013 4:38:34 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Red Steel

Gee, another Obama shot down in flames by Obama himself.

How many military personnel and civilian personnel voted for this marxist fraud because he promised to protect our armed forces?

All he has done is get them killed and forgotten (bumps in the Ben Ghazi road), with his cowardly Rules of Non-Engagement, lack of decent air support weapons (napalm), and piss-poor leadership at the JCS and Cabinet levels.


10 posted on 07/25/2013 4:42:07 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Red Steel

Only the stupidest of political parties would not make Obama veto this bill. So are the Repubs that stupid or not?


11 posted on 07/25/2013 4:42:28 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Red Steel

Damn traitor.


12 posted on 07/25/2013 4:43:00 PM PDT by mykroar (China and Russia are playing chess while Obamas's playing 52 card pick-up.)
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To: SCHROLL

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3047346/posts


13 posted on 07/25/2013 4:43:08 PM PDT by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: jwalsh07
Only the stupidest of political parties would not make Obama veto this bill. So are the Repubs that stupid or not?

I'll take Rhetorical Questions for $1000, Alex.

14 posted on 07/25/2013 4:43:52 PM PDT by mykroar (China and Russia are playing chess while Obamas's playing 52 card pick-up.)
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To: Venturer

Do to Air Force One what Harry Truman did to MacArthurs plane.


What did he do?


15 posted on 07/25/2013 4:44:10 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Red Steel

Shortchanging the military and veterans isn’t just an Obama thing, it’s standard Democrat playbook.


16 posted on 07/25/2013 4:44:20 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Venturer

Or what Sarah did to Murkowski’s Governor jet. Sold it, said she could ride commercial air like any other citizen.


17 posted on 07/25/2013 4:46:29 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Red Steel

Yeah, it’s pretty well understood that he hates the military. Yet, I’m sure there are no shortage of morons-in-uniform who voted for him both times.


18 posted on 07/25/2013 4:47:53 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Red Steel

Obama hates our military. That’s why he wants it full of homosexuals and run by muslims.


19 posted on 07/25/2013 4:49:40 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: American in Israel

Can they ground it mid-flight?


20 posted on 07/25/2013 4:50:22 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Red Steel

Well come ooonn guys! They gotta get the money from somewhere to pay for that $72 million in bonuses to the IRS and the $100 million for Obamas partying.


21 posted on 07/25/2013 4:50:34 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Red Steel

With all his ‘personal’ suggestions for cuts, it is obvious he is trying to dampen enthusiasm to enlist. He only wants a ‘Civilian Security Force’ to rival the Military in funding. He doesn’t want us to be protected or defended. I am sick.


22 posted on 07/25/2013 4:51:15 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Red Steel

Why does the military have to bear the burden of this lousy health “reform” bill? This Administration is crazy and dangerous.


23 posted on 07/25/2013 4:51:41 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: Red Steel

Sure typical leftist mentality take away from those that earned benefits by fighting for, dying for, standing the watch on foregin shores on many holiday’s away from families , and loved ones, in other words those that gave true sacrifice to the nation, and giving those benefits away for free to degenerates that want to sit on the couch and smoke a bong, talking on their Obama phones, using their SNAP benefits at McDonalds and swiping their EBT cards at 711 to get their 40’s and a pack of smokes, while they wait to get their section 8 housing vouchers filled, and get their free Obamacare....


24 posted on 07/25/2013 4:54:08 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Remember America "The FIsh Rots From the Head Down")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Red Steel.
According to the Army Times, the administration says the bill is "too generous with military pay" and not generous enough for civilian employees.

25 posted on 07/25/2013 4:54:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Red Steel

Make the bastard veto it.

Having democrat fascist Senators resisting an override of that veto with troops engaged overseas is a perfect beginning for the 2014 election season.


26 posted on 07/25/2013 4:58:22 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: SCHROLL

Never. Our military will follow orders right over the cliff. They are simply sheeple like the rest of us.


27 posted on 07/25/2013 4:59:34 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Red Steel

How does he sleep at night? I started to say something else, but don’t want to be banned. (I’m fuming...again!)


28 posted on 07/25/2013 4:59:54 PM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: Red Steel

Reduce pay

Increase insurance payments

Increase co-pays...

Wow, I guess he’s really not running again.


29 posted on 07/25/2013 5:02:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: laplata

Harry’s people were telling him that Mac Arthur wanted a plane to fly around in and bad mouth Truman.

Mr. Truman told them to give him one, but don’t service it.

When it got too unsafe to fly the tour would be over.


30 posted on 07/25/2013 5:04:35 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Red Steel

This from the party that discards voting ballots from the military.


31 posted on 07/25/2013 5:06:13 PM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: Red Steel

Well maybe he’s running out of money for vacations and golf outings, or maybe Reggie has gotten more expensive. Whatever, we must all remember that Obama believes that the needs of the ONE(him) outweigh the needs of the many!


32 posted on 07/25/2013 5:06:43 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Red Steel

A 2 star general with under 2 years service has a base pay of over $118K/year.

That’s quite a bit more than any O-5 or below will ever get no matter how long they serve!

http://www.militaryfactory.com/military_pay_scale.asp


33 posted on 07/25/2013 5:06:46 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Venturer

I can picture Truman doing that. I’m a history/trivia buff and appreciate the info. Thanks.


34 posted on 07/25/2013 5:08:43 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Red Steel
What a great time to draw the line. Support military families and force odumbo to cave on something, anything.

He has been living a charmed existence. everything he does is bad for the military but he always gets his way somehow....Slap him down.

35 posted on 07/25/2013 5:12:48 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Red Steel

He never served a DAY, hell, he never so much as wore a Boy Scout uniform. Do Muslims have a scouting program?


36 posted on 07/25/2013 5:20:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: Red Steel

It was Bill Clinton who made ppl medicare eligible to pay into medicare if we wanted to use military facilities..prior to that we did not pay into medicare... if we were medicare eligible we used tri care for life, or paid the fee for tri care. it never end for screwing our military. Except for photo ops


37 posted on 07/25/2013 5:21:13 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do Muslims have a scouting program?


They strap explosives on them and teach them to kill at very young ages.


38 posted on 07/25/2013 5:23:45 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: American in Israel

100 million dollars for a junket to Africa would cover more than enough of the military pay raise, and retain the same premiums.

Not however for this “hopeless changer” marxist. Dissension in the ranks, coupled with lickspittle leaders equals...the Red Army part 2. A military that is already on foodstamps and subsidies is being hammered further to effect “change”. Meanwhile billions wasted on the non-working “gimmees” who are sitting on their asses.


39 posted on 07/25/2013 5:26:54 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Red Steel

bastard


40 posted on 07/25/2013 5:32:43 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: Red Steel

The 5000 Afghans he is importing this year alone will be getting their health care for FREE


41 posted on 07/25/2013 5:39:52 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: JoanneSD
It will take another Ronald Reagan to fix the military back right. He did more for our troops than any other post WW2 POTUS. What he helped to restore both the DEM and GOP POTUS as well as both parties in congress since 1989 have made every effort possible to destroy. I say end the Presidential and Congressional Retirement Programs before one more cent of burden is placed on our military.
42 posted on 07/25/2013 5:44:39 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Red Steel

go for it you bastard!


43 posted on 07/25/2013 5:46:49 PM PDT by ldish (The Impeachment process should be already be well underway...but trust me it will never be started!)
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To: Red Steel; All

The Founding States made the Constitution’s Clause 2 of Article 7 to clarify the following. Congress can override presidential vetos with 2/3 majority consent of each House of Congress. So if Congress claims that Obama gave Congress “no choice” but to raise health care premiums for military personnel, then Congress is arguably not concerned about the best interests of the troops.


44 posted on 07/25/2013 5:48:54 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Venturer
And Truman was a liberal, hot-headed democRAT! Can you imagine what the reaction would be like if ANY Republican president at ANY time would have done this and then withheld servicing the plane. RAT bastard demturds have been getting away with sh_t like this since that party was formed.

We need 2 separate countries now, more than ever. Put the RAT bastard demoRATs in the NE states and CA, OR, WA & IL. We get all the rest, since the libturd demoRATs are scared of nature & the outdoors anyway. Jam them into the cities and let the black thugs have at 'em.

45 posted on 07/25/2013 6:05:03 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: MomofMarine
How does he sleep at night?

Easy. He's a lawyer. First he lies on one side, then he lies on the other.

46 posted on 07/25/2013 6:14:48 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: rcrngroup

IMO and historically, you are wrong.

Truman was not hot-headed. Although he did threaten to kick a reporter who didn’t like his daughters piano playing in the balls. Truman was brilliant and down to earth, and left the White House as poor as when he went in it. Tell me another democrat who did that. He was certainly the opposite of Obama, because the buck did stop with him. He never tried to blame anyone else he took responsibility.

IMO DEMocrat or not Harry Truman was one of the greatest Presidents. There would be no Israel without Truman.
He made mistakes, everyone does, but he never blamed them on someone else.


47 posted on 07/25/2013 6:15:07 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: txrefugee

**Our military will follow orders right over the cliff. **

Don’t

bet

on

that.


48 posted on 07/25/2013 6:26:42 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Red Steel

Permit me to share something I first found on Michelle Malkin’s site. It is from a humorous site called memegenerator, and they use the following photo of Obama with various quotes. This one however, deals with Obama care.

http://memegenerator.co/instance/35254504


49 posted on 07/25/2013 7:21:34 PM PDT by stisidore
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Active Duty/Retiree Ping.


50 posted on 07/25/2013 7:28:50 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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