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Ohio Officials Ordered To Recognize Gay Couple’s Marriage
BuzzFeed Politics ^ | July 22, 2013 | Chris Geidner

Posted on 07/23/2013 7:41:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 07/23/2013 7:54:05 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A federal judge in Ohio ordered state officials Monday to recognize the marriage of two men that was performed in Maryland on the death certificate of an Ohio resident in hospice care who the judge says “is certain to die soon.”


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Maryland; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: doma; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; judicialactivism; marriage; maryland; ohio; samesexmarriage

1 posted on 07/23/2013 7:41:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And so it begins...(sigh)...


2 posted on 07/23/2013 7:43:43 AM PDT by apillar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My lord, such gayness portrayed in one photo! Disgusting knowing where those mouths have been...


3 posted on 07/23/2013 7:44:44 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

You can almost see their glee in anicipation of adopting a young male child in that photo.


4 posted on 07/23/2013 7:46:07 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
NEVER !

This is what we get when we FAIL to OBEY God.
For it is written: Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.
Someone once asked The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE". And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.

"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect
that God is just,
that his justice cannot sleep forever."


5 posted on 07/23/2013 7:47:32 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wonder what he’s dying of...hmmm...


6 posted on 07/23/2013 7:47:50 AM PDT by struggle
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To: apillar
Saw this coming from a mile away, once the Supreme Court essentially ruled in the Prop 8 case that ANY opposition to gay rights or gay marriage is based on bigotry and therefore irrelevant it opened the door for every liberal Federal Court Judge in the nation to do their best to stretch that ruling as far as they can if for no other reason than to get another case before the Supreme Court as fast as possible to achieve their ultimate goal of having the court pull another imaginary constitutional right out of their orifice (ala abortion). Then gay marriage will be the law of the land and it won't matter if your states constitution forbids it and 80% of the public opposes it.
7 posted on 07/23/2013 7:52:37 AM PDT by apillar
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To: struggle

Lou Gehrig’s disease, supposedly.
It makes me sick to think just one judge can ignore the votes of millions and nullify the laws of states.


8 posted on 07/23/2013 7:53:19 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
ORDERED not to accept for recording a death certificate for John Arthur that does not record Mr. Arthur’s status at death as ‘married’ and James Obergefell as his ‘surviving spouse,’”

It has never been about "love", rather is ALL about money.

He wants the insurance.

9 posted on 07/23/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: struggle

No doubt it is a combination of diseases from his gay lifestyle. I read that nearly 40% of gay men report they have had over 500 sexual partners. And many, many gay men have multiple bouts with all sorts of STDs.


10 posted on 07/23/2013 7:56:26 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: apillar

Yes, it does. When the first state recognized homosexual marriage, I knew right away that they would use the courts to try to force in on the rest of us.


11 posted on 07/23/2013 7:59:11 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; ...

Ohio Ping
A federal judge in Ohio ordered state officials Monday to recognize the marriage of two men that was performed in Maryland on the death certificate of an Ohio resident in hospice care who the judge says “is certain to die soon.”


12 posted on 07/23/2013 8:08:49 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Full faith and credit?

Based upon that, a person with a concealed carry permit should be able to carry concealed in states where it is otherwise not permitted.

13 posted on 07/23/2013 8:16:41 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Really Ohio?
14 posted on 07/23/2013 8:17:40 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: grobdriver

The insurance should not be an issue, as the partner can be named as beneficiary on any life insurance. Where this would come into play, would be to allow the “spouse” to automatically inherit all or some of the assets. Without the “spouse”, those assets would likely be split (depending on Ohio law) between parents, children, or siblings of the decedent, assuming no valid will is in place. So this would allow the spouse to trump other blood relatives for part or all of the assets at death.


15 posted on 07/23/2013 8:20:02 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Equal Protection meets States Rights. You want to really throw a rock into a pack of dogs? Demand that a non-carry state recognize your CCW. "No! wait a minute. We can't go THAT far!"
16 posted on 07/23/2013 8:27:28 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: Yosemitest

1:19 minutes
Ted Cruz: Gay Rights Lead to Hate Speech Laws, US on Brink of Collapse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLRAlzfci1c


17 posted on 07/23/2013 8:34:48 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Simple solution, don’t issue a death certificate. But do nail him for not filing an income tax return. A win, win for both governments.


18 posted on 07/23/2013 8:35:20 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

iT’S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY...social security, etc.


19 posted on 07/23/2013 8:35:25 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Will Freepr combat)
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To: grobdriver

Why don’t these fags just live where they get fake “married?” Oh, yeah. Then they couldn’t push their perversion on everyone else.


20 posted on 07/23/2013 8:35:36 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: apillar

SCOTUS doesn’t have the last word on this.


21 posted on 07/23/2013 8:36:29 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Whenifhow
Thanks for the link.
I look forward to Jesus Christ grabbing all those REPROBATES and throwing them alive, into the Lake of Fire.
22 posted on 07/23/2013 8:39:19 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: NEMDF; grobdriver
I'm sure it's about the tax on the estate/inheritance. A surviving spouse would not owe as much (if any) as a surviving child/sister/other designated heir...
23 posted on 07/23/2013 8:39:43 AM PDT by 88keys (run the race...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As Black put it, the couple “traveled to Maryland in a special jet equipped with medical equipment and a medical staff necessary to serve Mr. Arthur’s needs, whereupon Plaintiffs were married in the jet as it sat on the tarmac in Anne Arundel County, Maryland. They returned to Cincinnati that same day.”

Total set up. They likely judge shopped in OH as well. Thanks Kennedy. Who appointed this mighty Constitutionalist as a SCJ?

24 posted on 07/23/2013 8:40:31 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Correct. When the person dies, his siblings/blood relatives could pursue having the “married” on death certificate overturned, if Ohio does not recognize same-sex marriages. Then the siblings could inherit by Ohio’s default rules for intestate decedents.


25 posted on 07/23/2013 8:41:40 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: 88keys

Tax would only come into play if we are talking about millions in the estate.


26 posted on 07/23/2013 8:42:43 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Read the comments at the link. But take your BP meds first!


27 posted on 07/23/2013 8:56:35 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Wiser now
one judge can ignore the votes of millions

...and in some states -like Massachusetts- you don't even get a chance to HAVE a vote to be ignored....

28 posted on 07/23/2013 9:04:04 AM PDT by massmike (At the heart of every Paul-bot argument is the fear that someone will keep them from their weed!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze; Jim Robinson; P-Marlowe; Girlene; onyx; Alamo-Girl

If, as was supposedly ruled recently by SCOTUS, it is a state issue, then the proper federal order would have been that the death certificate be issued in Maryland, and especially if the couple with intention went to Maryland for the marriage license.

Personally, I’d tell the fed judge to go pound sand if I were Governor Kasich, and I’d promptly pardon anyone at any time who is charged by that same federal judge, including myself.

I would FORCE them to send in the military to override my authority.

This is my state. We voted down gay marriage. Let them castrate themselves. Maranatha, Lord Jesus!


29 posted on 07/23/2013 9:08:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ohio needs to say, “You have no Constitutional authority to make that demand, so we refuse to accept and honor it.”


30 posted on 07/23/2013 9:09:46 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Haven’t the libs clearly established that we can ignore ‘unlawful orders’


31 posted on 07/23/2013 9:17:43 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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Full faith and credit? Based upon that, a person with a concealed carry permit should be able to carry concealed in states where it is otherwise not permitted.

I love my gun. Therefore California should be forced to recognize my Utah CCW permit. My gun and I are attached at the hip. How dare California refuse to recognize my firearm marriage that was consummated in Utah.

It's unfair. It's all about love.

32 posted on 07/23/2013 9:31:22 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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Guns are like good dogs. Just a little loving care, and they’ll stand between you and the wolf.


33 posted on 07/23/2013 9:41:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: apillar

Screw em! There’s no Full Faith and Credit for gun laws—to hell with the homo laws.


34 posted on 07/23/2013 9:42:39 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: NEMDF

A will would do the same, so I don’t see that as an issue. Nobody is entitled to the money of another at death.

It would allow a gay spouse to get the benefit of any marriage adjustments in the estate taxes — spouses can inherit with no tax in most cases. But I can’t say I’m all that upset about that, because all of us should be able to inherit without tax (and most of us will, at least federally, with the 5 million deduction).

That is why they chose this case — it is the one most likely to invoke some level of sympathy even among opponents of SSM. Once this case grants the right, then they get it all, like forcing christian business to provide spouse benefits for same sex couples.


35 posted on 07/23/2013 10:17:15 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ohio should ignore the order. Make the Feds deploy troops. Enough deployments at so many dollars a day would eventually break the Federal government and its communist courts.


36 posted on 07/23/2013 10:31:56 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: apillar

the slippery slope begins. The next thing that we will have to accept is a man with multiple wives moves this country. Where does it end?


37 posted on 07/23/2013 11:00:12 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (I wish government would get their heads out of their butts and their noses out of everyones business)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tell the federal judge no.


38 posted on 07/23/2013 11:03:01 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Yeah, they’d better watch what they’re doing or they’ll open Pandora’s box.


39 posted on 07/23/2013 1:02:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: xzins

The death certificate would have to be issued in the state where he died. Since Ohio doesn’t recognize gay marriage, I have no clue why this judge ruled the way he did, except he had an agenda. It was likely judge shopped to get the result they wanted.

The ruling should be challenged.


40 posted on 07/23/2013 4:05:32 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
That is why they chose this case — it is the one most likely to invoke some level of sympathy even among opponents of SSM. Once this case grants the right, then they get it all, like forcing christian business to provide spouse benefits for same sex couples.

The proper remedy IMHO would be to provide a means by which states can recognize civil unions between arbitrary adult couples who could not legitimately be married. Membership in a civil union would be orthogonal to the propriety of sexual relations either between the union's members, or between a member of the union and someone else. Consequently, such a union would not have to be restricted to persons who are not blood relatives; two widowed siblings, for example, might wish to form a union to care for the children they bred with their late spouses. The siblings would not be considered spouses, but each would be co-guardian of the other's children, and each would have survivorship rights in the other's estate.

Oddly, however, civil union laws often expressly forbid siblings from forming unions, even though since civil unions are supposedly "not about sex" incest should be a non-factor.

41 posted on 07/23/2013 4:16:08 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: grobdriver

It doesn’t need to say that for him to get insurance.. a policy must only name a beneficary.


42 posted on 07/23/2013 4:18:44 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; ...

Bring on the “Full Faith and Credit” lawsuits!

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


43 posted on 07/23/2013 7:59:47 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: grobdriver
its is about the money...the bil bemoans the fact that he should have gotten SS when his now deceased partner died...sadly, ALL of his partners have died, although none from aids that we know of...

let them pay the taxes, the insurance, etc that marrieds do...let them pay divorce lawyers....let them go to hell if they want to....

its clearly out of our hands...

live your life well, folks...live as much as you can under God's rule....associate and take solace from fellow God fearing people.....there really is not much we can do about our Soddam and Gomorrah society...

44 posted on 07/24/2013 10:50:51 AM PDT by cherry
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To: NEMDF
if they afford a special jet to take them to Maryland, they indeed might have millions....

its easy to make millions in this country if you're willing to live sinfully and ruthlessly...

45 posted on 07/24/2013 10:52:37 AM PDT by cherry
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To: 1010RD

The blame for Anthony Kennedy lies with Reagan. Reagan had 3 Sup Court picks, and two of them were terrible. The O’Connor pick was worse than Kennedy since the GOP controlled the Senate when he chose her, but he should never have settled on Kennedy.


46 posted on 07/24/2013 9:06:27 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Girlene

According to the article, the guy has not died yet, but may die very soon. So, the death certificate would be issued in the locality where he actually dies.


47 posted on 07/25/2013 4:58:42 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: 88keys

The state of Ohio should issue automatic annulments to same sex couples married out of state.


48 posted on 07/25/2013 5:07:48 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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