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ACLU to Holder: Zimmerman case is over
breitbart.com ^ | 7/21/2013 | Lisa De Pasquale

Posted on 07/21/2013 12:14:08 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

In a letter from the ACLU to Attorney General Eric Holder:

*snip*

Even though the Supreme Court permits a federal prosecution following a state prosecution, the ACLU believes the Double Jeopardy Clause of the Constitution protects someone from being prosecuted in another court for charges arising from the same transaction. A jury found Zimmerman not guilty, and that should be the end of the criminal case.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: aclu; blackrage; doj; holder; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/21/2013 12:14:08 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

*snort* As if...


2 posted on 07/21/2013 12:14:48 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: RoosterRedux

Blind hog; meet acorn...


3 posted on 07/21/2013 12:15:30 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: RoosterRedux

4 posted on 07/21/2013 12:16:25 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: RoosterRedux

For once, I agree with the ACLU.


5 posted on 07/21/2013 12:18:45 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: RoosterRedux

I believe Holder has no intention of pursuing federal charges. But he wants to say he’s considering, to appease the people who want it. By the time it becomes clear there will be no charges, people won’t be so worked up about it.


6 posted on 07/21/2013 12:19:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: RoosterRedux

I love it when they eat their own.


7 posted on 07/21/2013 12:19:58 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: SandRat

This is twice for me; they also condemned unsupervised NSA data collection.


8 posted on 07/21/2013 12:23:31 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: RoosterRedux

When in my mind the ACLU becomes the lesser of two evils, it must be pretty bad.


9 posted on 07/21/2013 12:24:25 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: txhurl

I missed that.


10 posted on 07/21/2013 12:24:26 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: RoosterRedux
ACLU believes the Double Jeopardy Clause of the Constitution..

LMAO!! Since when did the ACLU decide that Obama and Holder pay attention to the constitution? LOL! The constitution? BWA HA HA HA!

"Eric, you believe these guys? The constitution? BWA HA HA HA!


11 posted on 07/21/2013 12:24:42 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: RoosterRedux
On July 17th, the Washington Post In the reported:

In an unusual move, the Justice Department announced Wednesday that it is collecting feedback from Americans for its investigation into whether to file civil rights charges against George Zimmerman.

Justice officials said the move comes “because of interest in this matter.” People can e-mail Sanford.Florida@usdoj.gov if they have thoughts on how the department should proceed.


12 posted on 07/21/2013 12:25:12 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: nickcarraway

Agreed. This was and is theater to chase the slaves back onto the plantation.

I don’t think it worked as well as hoped because there have actually been a fair number of blacks speaking out in the other direction.


13 posted on 07/21/2013 12:25:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RoosterRedux

This is exactly what they want....they don’t want the case back into court, they gain points by just milking the verdict.


14 posted on 07/21/2013 12:25:47 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RoosterRedux

If Holder and his Handlers haven’t figured this out by now, they are a lot dumber than they look.


15 posted on 07/21/2013 12:26:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Amnesty. The DemocRATS' payback for the 2010 elections.)
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To: cripplecreek
I don’t think it worked as well as hoped because there have actually been a fair number of blacks speaking out in the other direction.

Not that the media would give them a voice, nor any politicians from either the Democratic Party nor the GOP.

16 posted on 07/21/2013 12:26:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RoosterRedux

What MOM may argue (concepts stolen from another Freeper, can’t recall who): Normally double jeopardy does not prevent federal prosecution after state prosecution because the federal and state governments are separate sovereigns. However, in this case, Florida acted at the behest of the President and DoJ, so the first case counts as both a federal and a state prosecution for double jeopardy purposes. The federal government therefore does get another try. (I think the Freeper cited a case, too.)


17 posted on 07/21/2013 12:27:05 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: RoosterRedux

When the ACLU tells liberals to stop you know they have really gone over the edge.


18 posted on 07/21/2013 12:28:41 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: RoosterRedux

According to a recent poll, only 21% of people want to see a civil rights trial of Zimmerman. 58% oppose it, with the rest having no opinion. Politically, a civil rights trial of Zimmerman is a non-starter, though would be popular with the MSNBC crowd.


19 posted on 07/21/2013 12:29:11 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: nickcarraway

Obama and Holder are arrogant, childish, and spiteful. They are investigating to keep Zimmerman under a constant intimidation of the federal government. Just like their little spite move telling the AG of Florida to put a hold on Zimmerman’s gun used to shoot Martin. That was just a big
“You’re not gonna do what you want” move. Until this case is closed by the Feds Zimmerman will be investigated, snooped on, phones tapped, history scoured for so-called racial bias, a snitch line will remain open, etc.
The point is to show Zimmerman who is boss regardless the verdict.
That is how racist and petty Obama and his bitch boy Holder really are.


20 posted on 07/21/2013 12:29:34 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: nickcarraway
I would only disagree with only the “appease” portion of your analysis. Incite is more fitting.
21 posted on 07/21/2013 12:30:40 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: RoosterRedux

My world is coming undone. The ACLU agrees with me three times in the last three weeks and Jimmuh Carter agreed with me twice in one week.

I can only take so much!


22 posted on 07/21/2013 12:31:13 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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Amendment V
Rights in criminal cases

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime,
unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury,
except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia,
when in actual service in time of War or public danger;
nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb,
nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself,
nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


23 posted on 07/21/2013 12:31:23 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: piytar

I am unable to comprehend your post. Somebody help.


24 posted on 07/21/2013 12:31:30 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: piytar

...did you mean does NOT get another try?


25 posted on 07/21/2013 12:33:54 PM PDT by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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To: Dilbert San Diego
According to a recent poll, only 21% of people want to see a civil rights trial of Zimmerman.

Interesting - that correlates with the percentage of our population who identify as hard core leftists or minority ideologues (or both).

26 posted on 07/21/2013 12:34:51 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: x1stcav

Is the last name name not spelled Cahttuh ??


27 posted on 07/21/2013 12:35:51 PM PDT by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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To: piytar; Weirdad

Oooooppps! I meant the Feds do NOT get another try!!!


28 posted on 07/21/2013 12:37:57 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Weirdad

I really can’t fake a southern accent when writing as well as Hillary Clintoon can fake a black accent when pandering to adoring crowds of the same.

Got to work on it.


29 posted on 07/21/2013 12:39:28 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: RoosterRedux
ACLU believes the Double Jeopardy Clause of the Constitution protects someone from being prosecuted in another court for charges arising from the same transaction. A jury found Zimmerman not guilty, and that should be the end of the criminal case.

They got that right!

However, in the next paragraph, they state:

Although the George Zimmerman case did not involve a law enforcement officer, many other shootings of unarmed Black men around the country have.

and then they proceed to list a few examples, including Oscar Grant.

So, ACLU, does the Double Jeopardy Clause contain an exception for crimes committed by cops on duty?

30 posted on 07/21/2013 12:39:31 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: txhurl

It probably would have made more sense if I included “NOT” in the last sentence, as in the Feds do NOT get another try...


31 posted on 07/21/2013 12:40:06 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: piytar

Whew. You almost caused me to give up drinking.


32 posted on 07/21/2013 12:47:50 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Actually Holder and Obama don’t care if Zimmerman
is prosecuted again, they know that what ever reason
is given, their voters will know it’s because of
white racism.

Simple.


33 posted on 07/21/2013 12:49:34 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Holder has no intention of bringing a civil rights case. The administration is just trying to fan the flames as a distraction.

Watch what the other hand is doing.


34 posted on 07/21/2013 12:49:55 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: nickcarraway; All
But he wants to say he’s considering, to appease the people who want it.

Excellent point. Holder will tap-dance the Zimmerman issue just long enough for the corrupt media to redirect the attention of low-information citizens to another government-manufactured soap opera.

35 posted on 07/21/2013 12:52:44 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Weirdad

“Is the last name name not spelled Cahttuh ??”

Correct spelling is “Catarrh*”

*ca·tarrh [kuh-tahr] Show IPA
noun
Pathology . inflammation of a mucous membrane, especially of the respiratory tract, accompanied by excessive secretions.


36 posted on 07/21/2013 12:55:01 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: x1stcav
Y'done good.

Only one "T" in Cahtuh, though.

(alternately; Cahta, Cahtah)

37 posted on 07/21/2013 12:57:06 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: SandRat

For once, I agree with the ACLU.

don’t you mean twice, they are protesting nsa spying also.


38 posted on 07/21/2013 12:58:39 PM PDT by willywill
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To: x1stcav

I hear ya.

And that lets you know that this administration has officially bolted over the far left line.


39 posted on 07/21/2013 12:59:24 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: RoosterRedux

I will never donate a single dollar to the ACLU again.


40 posted on 07/21/2013 1:01:12 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: RoosterRedux
B T T T ! ! ! ©

41 posted on 07/21/2013 1:02:32 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
When in my mind the ACLU becomes the lesser of two evils, it must be pretty bad.

LOL! Well said.

42 posted on 07/21/2013 1:05:10 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: RoosterRedux
"...the ACLU believes the Double Jeopardy Clause of the Constitution protects someone from being prosecuted in another court for charges arising from the same transaction."

The real law of our land on the matter, my emphasis in bold:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


There's no excuse for any second attempt to prosecute for the same crime, so there's no excuse for a second jurisdiction to make a second such attempt anywhere in the USA.

The propaganda and policy campaign of three decades (propaganda: "tough on crime") by un-American, bipartisan, socialist romanticists will probably come to a close before long, because the big government that they falsely claimed to oppose cannot be supported without a large manufacturing base administered by the kind of men in American leadership before 1850.


43 posted on 07/21/2013 1:06:31 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: headstamp 2
34 Holder has no intention of bringing a civil rights case. The administration is just trying to fan the flames as a distraction. Watch what the other hand is doing.

Ding! Ding!! Ding!!! Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!!!

As others have pointed out, this momentum will be utilized in the next assault on the 2nd Amendment. Gun Owners of America thinks that the recent agreement in the Senate negotiated by John McCain to limit filibusters on presidential appointments will be enacted by Harry Reid when the Demo>c<rats counterattack for more gun control.

44 posted on 07/21/2013 1:20:09 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: RoosterRedux

It’s shameful when you think of it, the ACLU quoting a document they’ve lifted their leg and whizzed on for decades on end.


45 posted on 07/21/2013 1:20:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Zimmerman breaks Martin's nose/pounds his head on concrete? Does Martin's backers support Zimmerman?)
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To: RoosterRedux

46 posted on 07/21/2013 1:26:51 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: x1stcav
My world is coming undone. The ACLU agrees with me three times in the last three weeks and Jimmuh Carter agreed with me twice in one week. I can only take so much!

I'm with you on that... Alternate universe? Quick, what color is the sky over your house?

Regards,
GtG

47 posted on 07/21/2013 1:37:26 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

There is no color to the sky...only shades of gray. (Thank you, Monkees!)


48 posted on 07/21/2013 1:39:18 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Oh, yeah...

I knew that something tasting horrible tends to drain from my sinuses whenever I talk about Catarrh, should have remembered the spelling...


49 posted on 07/21/2013 1:49:42 PM PDT by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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To: cripplecreek

“I don’t think it worked as well as hoped because there have actually been a fair number of blacks speaking out in the other direction.”

Have you seen this? It’s good.
http://gnli.christianpost.com/video/trayvon-martin-pot-smoking-gives-munchies-and-makes-parano-12760


50 posted on 07/21/2013 1:54:59 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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