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Liz Cheney Would Be Fourth Republican Senator To Back Gay Marriage
Politix ^ | July 17, 2013 | David Mark

Posted on 07/17/2013 1:54:59 PM PDT by BillyBoy

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To: Blood of Tyrants; BillyBoy
this is an issue that states have to decide for themselves.'

And how is that a bad thing.


Because it is a political shellgame trick. Sure, let one state decide, then 2, and 4, and another dozen, etc. Eventually, the other states will be coerced into reciprocity agreements, but the politicians can say they didn't support it.


41 posted on 07/17/2013 2:24:51 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: TomGuy

You seem to think that the legislators in the states with anti-homosexual marriage constitutional amendments are going to just roll over. When the sodomites sue the first state to try to force reciprocity, they will find over 35 other states joining in on the side of the defendant state.


42 posted on 07/17/2013 2:29:37 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Marriage isn’t a state issue today, there is no way that states will be allowed to ignore families that relocate or get transferred there by the federal govt, and military, pretending that ‘gay marriage’ is a state issue is a way to “get r done” for gay marriage nationally.

Besides the feds have to decide on many millions of marriages itself, such as in widow benefits and immigration policy and in the military and federal employment.

Gay marriage has already been recognized by the federal government, the military, and in immigration and several states, no state is going to be able to stop those families at their borders or with a separate set of family laws.


43 posted on 07/17/2013 2:30:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: BillyBoy; grania

” That ironic thing, Liz Cheney fans keep telling us she’s better because she’s willing to “Stand up and fight and against liberals”, but that if WERE true, she’d be running for a Senate where she actually has to fight a liberal to get it, and face a real contest in November. She’s not, she’s carpetbagging in Wyoming because it’s easier to run for a seat in a “safe state” with her daddy’s name, even if that means having to run against a solid conservative. “

Good post.


44 posted on 07/17/2013 2:32:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: G Larry

First we need an immaculate Republican virgin


45 posted on 07/17/2013 2:33:22 PM PDT by woofie (rns everyne a)
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To: BillyBoy; All

Thank you for referencing that article BillyBoy. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed against Mr. Mark, the author of the article, and not you.

For the record, I support only traditional one man, one woman marriage.

The problem with article is the following. What pro-gay activist justices and Obama guard dog Fx News don’t want citizens like Mr. Mark to know is that the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate marriage. In fact, the Founding States made the 10th Amendment to clarify that the Constitutution’s silence about such issues means that government power to regulate such things are automatically reserved uniquely to the states.

So Mr. Mark’s article wrongly implies, imo, that the idea of the states regulating marriage is nothing more than a matter of opinion when it is actually 10A-protected state power.


46 posted on 07/17/2013 2:33:55 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: DTogo

The federal government has had to be involved in it’s own definition of marriage since the Continental congress first legislated on it in 1780.


47 posted on 07/17/2013 2:34:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: BillyBoy

I’d support states rights for the 2A just as the left supports states rights for homo marriage. I’d appreciate having my gun carry as portable as they want a homo marriage to be.


48 posted on 07/17/2013 2:34:18 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: ansel12

You talk like it is a done deal. If so, why fight it?


49 posted on 07/17/2013 2:35:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Amendment10

See post 43, the “states” argument is an argument for gay marriage.


50 posted on 07/17/2013 2:36:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It sounds like you will take any approach to get to gay marriage.


51 posted on 07/17/2013 2:37:14 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: BillyBoy

I’m generally in favor of the whole notion of getting “new blood” into Congress. But, there’s no way I’ll ever support or vote for any Republican who is wobbly on either gay-marriage or amnesty. Those are issues I won’t budge on. Not an inch. I’d stay home rather than vote.


52 posted on 07/17/2013 2:38:09 PM PDT by greene66
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she's carpetbagging in Wyoming because it's easier to run for a seat in a "safe state" with her daddy's name,

Exactly. She only moved to WY last fall (2012). Wonder why?
53 posted on 07/17/2013 2:38:36 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: ansel12

What the hell are you talking about? You are the one saying it is inevitable. I am saying that expressing support for an amendment that will never be passed a futile.


54 posted on 07/17/2013 2:40:30 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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her sister is an alternative deathstyle advocate.

NO THANKS.


55 posted on 07/17/2013 2:44:24 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: greene66; BillyBoy

” But, there’s no way I’ll ever support or vote for any Republican who is wobbly on either gay-marriage or amnesty.”

BUMP


56 posted on 07/17/2013 2:45:53 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I am saying that expressing support for an amendment that will never be passed a futile.

In your defense of this new candidate's support for gay marriage, your argument is don't fight, accept her position.

See post 43.

57 posted on 07/17/2013 2:49:23 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: ansel12

What pre-Constitutional legislation regarding/referencing “marriage” was that, back in 1780?


58 posted on 07/17/2013 3:11:38 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: ansel12; All
Marriage isn’t a state issue today, there is no way that states will be allowed to ignore families that relocate or get transferred there by the federal govt, and military, pretending that ‘gay marriage’ is a state issue is a way to “get r done” for gay marriage nationally.

As I mentioned elsewhere, state power to regulate marriage is not a matter of opinion. State power to regulate marriage is protected by the 10th Amendment, plain and simple.

Regarding the Full Faith and Credit Clause, the Constitution's Section 1 of Article IV which I think you are basing your opinion on, please note the following. Before Congress established the constitutionally indefensible federal drinking age law for example, a 19-year old living in a state where drinking age was 19 couldn't go to a state where drinking age was 21 and buy booze on the basis of the Full Faith and Credit Clause.

What's going on is that pro-gay supporters, which maybe includes you but certainly activist justices, are pushing the gay agenda on PC interpretations of both the Equal Protections Clause of Section 1 of 14A and the Full Faith and Credit Clause.

59 posted on 07/17/2013 3:12:09 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: BillyBoy

I’m not interested in any Cheyney or any other damn republican for that matter.


60 posted on 07/17/2013 3:17:37 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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