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Dr. Ben Carson: 'This Is the Beginning of the Collapse' of Obamacare
NEWSMAX ^ | 16 Jul 2013 | Greg Richter

Posted on 07/17/2013 6:51:48 AM PDT by george76

Delaying implementation of key parts of the healthcare law and losing the support of labor unions are just the beginning of trouble for Obamacare, says Dr. Ben Carson.

"It's gonna be a lot worse than this. This is the beginning of the collapse," the retired Johns Hopkins neurosurgeon said on Fox News Channel's "Your World" on Tuesday.

"Usually when you roll out a big program, you roll it out bit by bit. You determine what's working. You can change things," Carson said. "But to try to roll out something this massive without really knowing what the intricacies are is quite foolish."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bencarson; carson; healthcare; obamacare; unions
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1 posted on 07/17/2013 6:51:48 AM PDT by george76
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This guy is a surgeon he's bound to know. I just hope he decides to run for “something”.If not he can campaign for us with Sarah. What a “dream team!”
2 posted on 07/17/2013 6:59:16 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

Nah. He be ol’ skool.


3 posted on 07/17/2013 7:01:03 AM PDT by Gamecock (Member: NAACAC)
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To: george76

You’ve got to pass it to find out waht’s in it, and now that you know what’s in it...


4 posted on 07/17/2013 7:04:21 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: george76

Men like this ..we need more men like this one.


5 posted on 07/17/2013 7:05:30 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: george76

The entire effort seems to be to push specific pieces of the collapse beyond certain elections.


6 posted on 07/17/2013 7:08:57 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: george76

From his lips to God’s ear!


7 posted on 07/17/2013 7:09:27 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: george76
Obama doesn't know anything about intricacies.
8 posted on 07/17/2013 7:15:08 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: rodguy911

Well, as he once said when asked how he’d “fix” Obamacare: “Just repeal it!”. And he would, too...

Problem is, he’ll never get a GOP nomination, and none of the powers-that-should-be are getting off their comfortable couches and putting a New Conservative Party together.

So, the more things change, the more they stay the same.


9 posted on 07/17/2013 7:16:37 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: george76

“The Fatal Conceit: The Errors of Socialism” - Friederich Hayek.

Hayek shows that Socialist Central Planners cannot ever have as much knowledge as individuals. Therefore, their necessarily ignorant prescriptions fail, and millions die as a result.

Socialists’ Fatal Conceit is that they think they know what is good for you better than you do.

And that will kill you.

Are you motivated yet?


10 posted on 07/17/2013 7:17:01 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (If youÂ’re happy and you know it clank your chains!)
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To: george76

OK GOP, find something to help all Americans.

Dunno what it will be.

But it should help all Americans. Besides, that will help it win votes.

:D


11 posted on 07/17/2013 7:20:08 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: george76

If you read the remainder of the article, notice that Dr Carson is in favor of Obamacare.

As it was being devised, he suggested to an operative that it be implemented bit by bit, and not in a great complicated blob.

As usual, don’t fall madly in love with someone with the first little sniff.


12 posted on 07/17/2013 7:58:01 AM PDT by lurk
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To: george76; Bigg Red; fatnotlazy
Ben Carson *Ping*

Ben Caron photo BenCarson_zps8b233ca1.jpg

Please Freepmail to get on or off this list…

13 posted on 07/17/2013 8:17:19 AM PDT by jazusamo ("I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white." T. Sowell)
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To: george76
“Comprehensive” laws are comprehensively foolish. Not everything abut the healthcare system was broken. Laws need to be focused and understandable.
14 posted on 07/17/2013 8:32:59 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: bigbob

Dr Carson is giving a talk at Dover Downs in Delaware on 8/10 at the invitation of a local PAC and a Frederick Douglas chapter here in Delaware. We may be a blue state but we are trying to break out of the mold...


15 posted on 07/17/2013 8:34:16 AM PDT by Hartlyboy
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To: george76

I think that they are delaying Obamacare because they haven’t gotten the vast IRS mechanisms in place yet to analyze every company and person and levy the fines.


16 posted on 07/17/2013 8:42:19 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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The Republicans have now had years to prepare for the eventual collapse of Obamacare, and we can but hope and pray that they have come up with a mountain of new ideas as to how to minimize the harm to the public, while encouraging the rapid creation of private health care systems.

The most effective way of doing this will be to give citizens the ability to “opt out” of the vast majority of federal programs directed at individuals: Social Security and Medicare.

If you pay no tax in, you get no benefits. If you have already paid tax in, but wish to discontinue doing so, you will still get some benefits you paid for.

Finally, instead of the onerous “means testing” that nobody wants, if you are of means and you “opt out”, you get tax breaks worth more than receiving a pittance from the government.

Doctors should be encouraged to have private practices that take neither Medicare, Medicaid or insurance for routine care. Insurance companies should be discouraged from offering routine health care coverage, putting the emphasis on catastrophic and long term care.


17 posted on 07/17/2013 9:01:08 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: george76

So, defund it, defund the IRS (and its ability to enforce it), repeal the bill, and then go to court to demand that Obama be penalized for illegally delaying implementation.


18 posted on 07/17/2013 9:04:49 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: lurk
The exact quote from the article is: "Carson said he spoke with a high-level White House official before the law was passed, telling the official that there were some things he liked and that Republicans would support. He suggested implementing those things first and then building on the program."

That's a long way from saying he is in favor of Obamacare as it was passed. I have seen him speaking about it on various news programs and he is not in favor of the existing bill. As a physician, he knew that there were things about health care that needed fixing, especially frivolous malpractice law suits which was not even addressed in the bill at all.

19 posted on 07/17/2013 9:12:40 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: rodguy911

PREDICTION:

ObamaDeathCAre will NEVER be repealed.

It will be tweaked, repaired or replaced but never repealed.

Has any of FDR`s marxist policies been repealed ?

There is no Constitutional Republic. The USA is a Socialist State.


20 posted on 07/17/2013 9:51:47 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Happily in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own guardians.)
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