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Blacks benefit from Florida ‘Stand Your Ground’ law at disproportionate rate
The Daily Caller ^ | 7-16-13 | Patrick Howley

Posted on 07/17/2013 5:39:25 AM PDT by smokingfrog

African Americans benefit from Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” self-defense law at a rate far out of proportion to their presence in the state’s population, despite an assertion by Attorney General Eric Holder that repealing “Stand Your Ground” would help African Americans.

Black Floridians have made about a third of the state’s total “Stand Your Ground” claims in homicide cases, a rate nearly double the black percentage of Florida’s population. The majority of those claims have been successful, a success rate that exceeds that for Florida whites.

Nonetheless, prominent African Americans including Holder and “Ebony and Ivory” singer Stevie Wonder, who has vowed not to perform in the Sunshine State until the law is revoked, have made “Stand Your Ground” a central part of the Trayvon Martin controversy.

Holder, who was pressured by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) and other progressive groups to open a civil rights case against acquitted neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman in the 2012 shooting death of 17-year-old Martin, criticized Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” self-defense law in a speech Tuesday before the NAACP.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; blackkk; defendyourself; defense; florida; georgezimmerman; goodvsevil; guncontrol; secondamendment; selfdefense; standyourground; trayvonmartin

1 posted on 07/17/2013 5:39:25 AM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog
Ahhhh....don't you love it when facts get in the way of loudmouth rabble-rousing rhetoric?

FWIW, Cleveland TV had a case of a homeowner shooting intruders, hit them but didn't kill them. It was a black guy defending his property and loved ones.

2 posted on 07/17/2013 5:42:58 AM PDT by grania
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To: smokingfrog

What would the murder rate in the black community be, if the innocent didn’t have the right to defend themselves from the roving thug gangs?


3 posted on 07/17/2013 5:43:45 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (sue the DNC for the IRS abuse! Can RICO laws be used against the DNC?)
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To: smokingfrog

SYG is obviously a direct assault on the “rights” and “oppertunities” of the CRIMINAL CLASS. Race simply ain’t a part of it.

To hell with the rights of the rest of (black AND white) society in general—we gotta let the thugs free reign to ‘do their thang’.


4 posted on 07/17/2013 5:44:33 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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Year Violent Crimes Population Violent crime rate Percent change, year to year Percent change since 2000 Percent change since 2005
2000 128,041 15,982,378 801.1      
2001 130,323 16,331,739 798.0 0% 0%  
2002 127,905 16,674,608 767.1 -4% -4%  
2003 124,236 17,071,508 727.7 -5% -9%  
2004 123,697 17,516,732 706.2 -3% -12%  
2005 125,825 17,918,227 702.2 -1% -12%  
2006 129,501 18,349,132 705.8 1% -12% 1%
2007 131,781 18,680,367 705.5 0% -12% 0%
2008 126,072 18,807,219 670.3 -5% -16% -5%
2009 113,415 18,750,483 604.9 -10% -24% -14%
2010 101,906 18,771,768 542.9 -10% -32% -23%

5 posted on 07/17/2013 5:46:06 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Duh. Blacks commit more crime and end up on the criminal defense side more often.


6 posted on 07/17/2013 5:49:50 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: smokingfrog

It’s what you get Floriduh when your governor and attorney general attempt satisfy that which can never be satisfed...


7 posted on 07/17/2013 5:50:52 AM PDT by Errant
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To: smokingfrog

LYING is the racebaiters business-—Their only business.


8 posted on 07/17/2013 5:54:41 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Errant

I wish MN would pass this. Then we’d not ever have to see Holder or Stevie Wonder ‘perform’ here.


9 posted on 07/17/2013 5:58:52 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: smokingfrog

LOL. “There you go again....” (hat tip to Ronaldus Maximus), messing up a nice propaganda tirade with actual hard data.


10 posted on 07/17/2013 6:40:34 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: smokingfrog

I used to work in a gun shop in what was not the best part of town. Some of our best customers were older black men who had worked their lives away to pay off a mortgage, only to find the neighborhood around them had quit civilization by the time they reached retirement. Never seen a bunch of guys with such scared looks in their eyes.


11 posted on 07/17/2013 6:47:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: smokingfrog

Yes they do, and successfully. But SYG was not even an issue in the Zimmerman case because it was a matter of self defense. Once again the libs confusing the matters for social engineering purposes with their low information voters.


12 posted on 07/17/2013 7:08:15 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: grania
Ahhhh....don't you love it when facts get in the way of loudmouth rabble-rousing rhetoric?

An honest black person's right to defend themselves is more important because crime in black neighborhoods is so high.. The reason liberal elites are talking down 'stand your ground' is elites tend to stand with criminals in black neighborhoods. (this is one more example of that)

13 posted on 07/17/2013 8:08:36 AM PDT by GOPJ (Department of Justice to Americans:'How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?')
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To: smokingfrog
Good rebuttal, plus Poll to freep at USA Today:

RF’s Pro-Gun Editorial In USA Today

Posted on July 17, 2013 by Robert Farago

As I mentioned in a previous post, USA Today asked me to write a counter-point editorial to their take on U.S. gun laws in general and the Zimmerman verdict in specific. [Click here to read paper's anti-gun gait-prop Lax gun laws vs. Trayvon Martin's life: Our view.] Know this: I didn’t get to read the full text until after it was published. Even so, I reckon my effort—Armed Zimmerman was no Dirty Harry: Opposing view—makes the case that TTAG’s Armed Intelligentsia explored in our Question of the Day. [Click here to give Gannet the page views or make the jump for the full text.] Thanks for helping me clarify my thinking. I hope I represented . . .

Continue reading

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/

14 posted on 07/17/2013 8:12:24 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: GOPJ
elites tend to stand with crimanals in black neighborhooods

What I see happening is that the ptb have decided to replace black lower-income labor with hispanics. Blacks seem to be catching on that it's jobs that their communities need, and the hispanics are taking them, they're causing friction as they move into fragile neighborhoods, and they're impacting the share of handouts going to the black community. Interesting that the has-been rabble rousers that are trying to get blacks to riot drowned out the responsible protest in DC about opposing "immigration reform" because it takes jobs from blacks, isn't it?

I've been describing it as genocide by demographics. Black women (and girls) are given birth control like it's candy. They're being replaced in jobs. And now, they're being asked to get rowdy over Trayvon Martin, which will serve to make many people less sympathetic to the plight responsible blacks face, hardest hit by the recession and the invasion of the US.

15 posted on 07/17/2013 8:29:49 AM PDT by grania
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Fight the Leftist Gun Grabbers.
Support Free Republic.

16 posted on 07/17/2013 12:37:39 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: FreeAtlanta
What would the murder rate in the black community be, if the innocent didn’t have the right to defend themselves from the roving thug gangs?

Check the crime statistics from Chicago for your answer.

17 posted on 07/17/2013 6:36:22 PM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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