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ELCA Has Biggest Split in American Church History
Steadfast Lutherans ^ | 7/12/13 | Rev. Kevin Vogts

Posted on 07/13/2013 12:19:30 PM PDT by rhema

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To: TArcher

What does that have to do with the price of marijuana in your city?


121 posted on 07/15/2013 6:23:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: TArcher

You really have a sulphur dipped hobby horse to harp on, if I may mix several metaphors. It’s better to live in a land of sinning believers than to live in a land of NO believers... and once you have believers THEN you concern yourself with getting rid of the remaining sin (which will only be relative... it won’t be completed till the day of Christ Jesus... read your bible).


122 posted on 07/15/2013 6:25:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It has plenty to do with the prostitution of the Church.

What were Christ’s instructions regarding tax exempt status?


123 posted on 07/15/2013 6:26:12 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

You so much want to strain out a gnat that you are willing to swallow the camel through which Satan wants to use little focused hatreds like yours to drive Christendom asunder altogether?

If you come from love, like I am learning to, you won’t be so grouchy. You will be able to appeal to those who are sinning of a better vision.


124 posted on 07/15/2013 6:28:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

What were Christ’s instructions regarding tax exempt status?


125 posted on 07/15/2013 6:30:14 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

You so much want to strain out a gnat that you are willing to swallow the camel through which Satan wants to use little focused hatreds like yours to drive Christendom asunder altogether?

If you come from love, like I am learning to, you won’t be so grouchy. You will be able to appeal to those who are sinning of a better vision.


126 posted on 07/15/2013 6:30:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

What were Christ’s instructions regarding tax exempt status?


127 posted on 07/15/2013 6:33:23 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

What were Christ’s instructions about “Love one another”? (With no qualifier upon it about whether the other is sinning... in fact you KNOW they are sinning... they will be sinning, though hopefully less and less, until they are complete in the Lord in glory.)

It’s Satan, not Christ, who is urging “hey TArcher! hey TArcher! hate your brethren!”


128 posted on 07/15/2013 6:33:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Perhaps it’s the father of lies who’s deceiving you that asking simple questions is “hate”. I recall Christ drove the money changers off the temple steps with a whip.

What were Christ’s instructions regarding tax exempt status?

Which version of “On the Jews and Their Lies” is the authentic one?


129 posted on 07/15/2013 6:37:42 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
What were Christ’s instructions regarding tax exempt status?

Simply put, don't pay those taxes you don't owe.

Pay those you do owe, but IIRC, there are no instructions in Gods Word to pay more than you owe.

130 posted on 07/15/2013 6:42:23 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
>>hatreds like yours to drive Christendom asunder altogether?

If anything is driving "Christendom" asunder - it is the cadre of Wolves who preen their vestigially syncretic Roman feathers in the pulpit whilst pacifying those within their purview --- and then floss the wool from between their teeth with "Doctrine" when the meal is done.

NO SALE

"ALMIGHTY GOD HATH CREATED THE MIND OF MAN FREE"

131 posted on 07/15/2013 6:49:51 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Mark 12:15-17

..But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. “Why are you trying to trap me?” he asked. “Bring me a denarius and let me look at it.” 16 They brought the coin, and he asked them, “Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?”

“Caesar’s,” they replied.

17 Then Jesus said to them, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”
NIV

No 501c3 exemption required.


132 posted on 07/15/2013 6:54:52 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

You are asking the question IN hate... with a disingenous spirit... I can sense it. You have a history. You do not pop out of nowhere. Tiny agendas do not get grinded (ground) for no motive. Something has obsessed you.

You probably have little to no idea of what love is. How about you go read 1 Cor 13 for starters?


133 posted on 07/15/2013 7:30:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: TArcher

You aren’t worshiping God at all, I fear. You are worshiping a philosophy about God. Men’s philosophy, however noble sounding.

You would be a lot more cautiously spoken if you could actually recognize genuine Christianity.


134 posted on 07/15/2013 7:32:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: TArcher

So why are you so obsessed over this little matter that you completely overlook the fact that genuine Christian love can overcome all such hurdles of sin? If the love is weak... you don’t throw vinegar in their faces to try to make it stronger.


135 posted on 07/15/2013 7:37:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: TArcher

Bub... Satan can’t drive off Satan. If you looked in the mirror of love, then you would see the hate that has overtaken your spirit and driven it into a mad, impotent frenzy over something that isn’t even a danger today! (America is going to be overrun by libertines, not by some hypothetical government-worshiping Christianesque hicks.)


136 posted on 07/15/2013 7:49:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: TArcher

And if you really care that the witness of the American church is being diluted by accepting the exemptions granted in modern America to any and all charitable and religious organizations, how about you first come up yourself even to the level of love that these churches still have? Believe it or not they are not committing the unforgivable sin. You are packing lots of Satanic rage and hate — not Christian love — and trying to drive out flaws with that. It’ll never work, not in a whole eternity. That was never God’s plan. God’s plan is to heal sin with love, if the recipient will be willing to accept it. He never got pleasure out of damning anyone.

“I bear [you] witness that [you] have a zeal for God — but not according to knowledge.”


137 posted on 07/15/2013 7:58:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>>Bub... Satan can’t drive off Satan.

You’re certainly the arrogant proof of that.

Don’t forget to floss.


138 posted on 07/16/2013 4:45:38 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: DManA

>>God’s opinion:

Lev 26:30-39
0 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars and pile your dead bodies on the lifeless forms of your idols, and I will abhor you. 31 I will turn your cities into ruins and lay waste your sanctuaries, and I will take no delight in the pleasing aroma of your offerings. 32 I will lay waste the land, so that your enemies who live there will be appalled. 33 I will scatter you among the nations and will draw out my sword and pursue you. Your land will be laid waste, and your cities will lie in ruins. 34 Then the land will enjoy its sabbath years all the time that it lies desolate and you are in the country of your enemies; then the land will rest and enjoy its sabbaths. 35 All the time that it lies desolate, the land will have the rest it did not have during the sabbaths you lived in it.

36 “’As for those of you who are left, I will make their hearts so fearful in the lands of their enemies that the sound of a windblown leaf will put them to flight. They will run as though fleeing from the sword, and they will fall, even though no one is pursuing them. 37 They will stumble over one another as though fleeing from the sword, even though no one is pursuing them. So you will not be able to stand before your enemies. 38 You will perish among the nations; the land of your enemies will devour you.
NIV


139 posted on 07/16/2013 5:25:06 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

So you’re saying churchs shouldn’t pay any taxes, exemption or not?


140 posted on 07/16/2013 7:06:37 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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