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To: JCBreckenridge; manc

Can you explain how DOMA was NOT Unconstitutional? Just point to the Article/Section/Clause. Mine might be a little outdated, but A1S10C1 specifically relates to contracts; any adult can make whatever contract they wish with whomever. That requires NO input from gov’t, nor yourselves.

See, it’s my contention, if gov’t were actually contained by A1S8, this would not even be an issue. There would be NO S.S/Medicare/etc. As (L) would actively abolish the 16th, there would be no social engineering vis a vi the tax code by the gov’t as well.

Just because it’s ‘my side’ doing the deed, doesn’t make it any less fascist.


34 posted on 07/12/2013 7:55:43 PM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: i_robot73

“any adult can make whatever contract they wish with whomever”

This is actually not true in the slightest. Please show where in the constitution it says this.

Not all the laws in the united states postdate the consitution. Some of them predate the constitution. Marriage, Habeaus Corpus, and trial by jury are three parts of the English common law and were the law in the English colonies prior to the formation of the United States.

The English Common Law definition of marriage? One man and one woman for life. Reynolds vs the US goes on the describe how the role of the federal government is to defend this definition of marriage, by barring polygamy. This is the same reasoning behind (as we see), spousal visas.

Thanks to liberaltarians like yourself - you’ve just opened the door to transform the US into marriage tourism for the rest of the world. You’ll see homosexual men and woman around the world with official grand spanking new - American citizenship.

The federal government does have a constitutional role in regulating marriage.


35 posted on 07/12/2013 8:01:43 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: i_robot73

Are you aware that in other jurisdictions that have passed gay marriage, they have also criminalized speech calling sodomites sodomites?


36 posted on 07/12/2013 8:03:34 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: i_robot73

no but you think it’s alright for any kind of marriage and as for unconstitutional to be found then I;m sure you are happy but where does it state you have a right to marry ?

Also in your world you would want anarchy right?

WHy mess with an institution which has been going for thousands of years unless you want to ruin it, oh wait rule 26 of the communist rules back in 1963, yes for those who want this sham of a marriage then all they are doing is the bidding of the radical communists like Ayers and others from the 60’s.

Also Govt has been in marriage since the founding fathers, it were judges sometimes who married others, yes one am and one woman, and don’t tell me that the founding fathers supported this feces sex and a sham either.

And some wonder why liberaltarians are called more radical than most liberals and then they got all upset when pointed out they are socialists with out taxes

As for CA, a constitutional amendment was done , same as NC and other states and yet activist judges like the homosexual one in CA said it was unconstitutional


52 posted on 07/13/2013 7:41:17 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: i_robot73

and the trouble is that those from up north move to places like FL and then expect to have their communist crap agenda pushed into FL, I;ts high time those fools and yes in Jacksonville who I have told to piss off back up north then if they don’t like the laws here to understand that their socialist cess pit of a state up north is very different to the south and especially NE FL like Jacksonville


54 posted on 07/13/2013 7:45:12 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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