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Boehner warns House GOP will be weaker without immigration reform
The Hill ^ | 7/10/13 | Russell Berman, Molly K. Hooper and Erik Wasson

Posted on 07/10/2013 4:05:56 PM PDT by jimbo123

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) urged their House Republican colleagues to pass immigration reform legislation in a closed-door meeting Wednesday, with the Speaker arguing his conference would be “in a much weaker position” if it failed to act.

A divided House Republican conference met for more than two hours in the basement of the Capitol to begin hashing out a response to the sweeping immigration bill the Senate passed last month.

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He (Issa) said the House would deal with the 11 million illegal immigrants, but that the conference viewed them not as a uniform block, but in three distinct categories: “Those who should remain, those who should not remain, and those who would fall within guest workers or other programs.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Ohio; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: amnesty; boehner; dreamact; gopamnestyday; gopdreamact; johnboehner; noamnesty; noamnestynodreamact; nodreamact; ohio; sayno2gopdreamact; wisconsin
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To: Lakeshark; onyx; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; zeestephen; Ohioan; Borax Queen

” I’m not trusting enough to believe we’ve won, I just think it’s leaning our way as long as we keep the pressure on. “

Keep the pressure on, because it’s all we can do!

We killed the hydra-headed beast before. Maybe we can do it again. If not? Bye bye AMERICA!


81 posted on 07/11/2013 10:49:05 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: jimbo123

good. the leftist republicans couldn’t get cover from their own caucus. keep it up.

he’ll now go hat in hand to the dems. maybe that betrayal will finally get us to a third party.


82 posted on 07/11/2013 10:50:49 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: jimbo123
There may be several--or more--ways to interpret the Speaker's comments. But to appreciate reality, consider the evidence of where, demographically, the Republican vote comes from. While we still get some immigrants, who are drawn to the image of the America that was, the vast majority of those who have come here in the past sixty years, or their descendants, vote with the Obamanists; the vast majority of those long-rooted, here, vote Republican.

The only major demographic exception to this pattern, is the well-rooted Black population (which does not include Obama), of course, which will clearly be the greatest loser of all, in an Hispanization of the population.

This reality cries out to the common sense of all of us. That so few in Washington seem to really understand the implications--it is not about hurt feelings, but about perspectives on life, government & the interaction between the two--is what is causing many on our side to despair. That is not going to help the Republican future.

William Flax

83 posted on 07/11/2013 11:01:56 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: jimbo123

Why can’t they just get rid of him, please?


84 posted on 07/11/2013 11:02:46 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Theodore R.
People in Cincinnati must be as clueless as their distant Graham-McPain cousins in SC and AZ.

1. Boehner is from north of here.

2. His remarks can be taken in more than one way.

3. Most Southwestern Ohio Republicans are strongly against flooding America with incongruous immigration, and certainly do not favor amnesty for those who came here illegally. Personally, I have fought leftwing immigration policy initiatives since my college days in the 1950s, and have never found much opposition to that among my fellow Southern Ohioans.

Instead of name calling, may I respectfully urge that we all focus on the wealth of talking points that can wake up our fellow citizens. It is tempting to use this forum to vent frustration & anger. But that is like counting your money, "before the dealing is done."

Everything for the time being should be about waking up & converting all whom we can.

William Flax

85 posted on 07/11/2013 11:17:05 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Sirius Lee

Exactly, this is all made to order. It’s the same story every episode with Boehner. Pretend you’ll do what conservatives want and then pull a 180 and pretend you were forced into passing a bad bill. If Boehner is convinced that something has to be done; no Republican can stop that from happening. Democrats pull Boehner’s strings.

Also, just this weekend, they were reporting that Paul Ryan had gone silent on immigration. I knew this was false, and of course now we hear he is working behind the scenes to help pass amnesty.


86 posted on 07/11/2013 11:18:10 AM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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To: metalurgist
You are right that Congress can define the jurisdiction of the District Courts; and could have at any time, the Conservatives in Congress had decided to work together against the Judicial activism of the Warren Court, which opened the floodgates to most of the mischief we now must deal with.

Sadly, we have too many who are only focused on one or two issues. Hence the wheel spinning that has been going on for almost sixty years.

William Flax

87 posted on 07/11/2013 11:25:27 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Zhang Fei
Murdoch is a "dual citizen," which is really an oxymoron. How can you be a citizen of competing sovereigns? He should be told, politely but persistently, that he can opine on economics, even on social values; but he has not right to try to parlay his "dual citizenship" into mucking up American citizenship.

Again, politely, but in a no nonsense manner.

William Flax

88 posted on 07/11/2013 11:31:59 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
Murdoch is a "dual citizen," which is really an oxymoron. How can you be a citizen of competing sovereigns? He should be told, politely but persistently, that he can opine on economics, even on social values; but he has not right to try to parlay his "dual citizenship" into mucking up American citizenship. Again, politely, but in a no nonsense manner. William Flax

If only it were that simple. We have plenty of big money GOP donors pushing amnesty. Murdoch is just one of the more well-known examples, because he's bought up a bunch of newspapers and other media outlets. TX gov Rick Perry was beholden to a bunch of big donors in the construction and grocery sectors. Since money buys political ads, GOP candidates who support amnesty tend to have more money with which to campaign in party primaries than those who oppose it. Which is how Texans end up with amnesty proponents like Perry in the governor's mansion.

89 posted on 07/11/2013 11:52:34 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: jimbo123

Paul Ryan is dead to me.


90 posted on 07/11/2013 12:06:07 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Naw, a fine is a one time thing. If you want to really get busineess to stop hiring illegals, require the company to set aside 30% of the person’s salary every time they are paid in escrow account until such time as that employee can pass the e-verify system. Once the employee passes e-verify, the funds are released from escrow.

The cost of the paperwork alone will make employers verify before hire.


91 posted on 07/11/2013 12:39:18 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: jimbo123
We don't have a broken immigration system!
We have a SPINELESS enforcement problem!
Build the GOD D***N FENCE!
Enforce the laws!
Deport the illegal aliens!
92 posted on 07/11/2013 12:45:05 PM PDT by Bellagio
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To: jimbo123

How could the GOP house get any weaker?


93 posted on 07/11/2013 1:44:37 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: jimbo123; sickoflibs; AuntB; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; ...

Does anyone remember the 1994 Crime Bill? There were so many competiting interests among Democrats that they kept tripping over each other legislatively and were unable to coordinate. Their Congressional leadership were unable to keep the competiting factions together, failed to come up with a compromise that satisfied anyone, and the bill ultimately fizzled out and faded away.

Perhaps that will happen to this immigration bill. For the first time since election night, I hold out some hope.


94 posted on 07/11/2013 3:36:00 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Muslims are a people of tolerance, life,and peace, and if you don't agree, they'll murder you)
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To: Bellagio

“Build the GOD D***N FENCE!
Enforce the laws!
Deport the illegal aliens!”
Well said.


95 posted on 07/11/2013 4:15:12 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: Ray76

Who in the house would replace him? I say one of those several that had a 100% conservative voting record would be a good place to start looking.


96 posted on 07/11/2013 7:13:56 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: headstamp 2
“Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) urged their House Republican colleagues to pass immigration reform legislation in a closed-door meeting Wednesday, with the Speaker arguing his conference would be “in a much weaker position” if it failed to act.”

Not possible, freepers yesterday assured us that was propaganda hit piece from politico, and you can never believe a word they print.

On the other hand I have said from the beginning that this would happen and one of the current favorites here, Trey Gowdey, would be an up from proponent.

I think Levin is currently proposing the only solution save the unthinkable ones. Con Con.

97 posted on 07/11/2013 7:15:01 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Zhang Fei
My point about Murdoch being a dual citizen was not to suggest that there are not many other wealthy supporters of the immigration betrayal. But, where there is a good basis to challenge individuals on this, we should do so. There are other issues that can be raised with other adversaries.

The Murdoch point is analogous to the one I make about Marco Rubio in Whither American Conservatism.

Frankly, I do not want to write off Murdoch or Rubio or Rick Perry, on other issues, where they may be on our side. But we need to use a surgical attack, wherever it may be effective.

William Flax

98 posted on 07/12/2013 10:42:09 AM PDT by Ohioan
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99 posted on 07/12/2013 4:13:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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