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Pakistan : Report says US Bin Laden raid 'an act of war'
Aljazeera ^ | Last Modified: 09 Jul 2013 09:04 | Asad Hashim

Posted on 07/09/2013 5:42:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

USA Today had a very different Title for the Report

Pakistan's Mea Culpa

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Al Jazeera's Investigative Unit leaked the report on Monday, The unit's Josh Berstein filed this report

The unilateral decision by the US to launch a military operation to capture or kill Osama Bin Laden on Pakistani territory constituted "an act of war", a Pakistani government investigation has found.

The report of the Abbottabad Commission, which investigated the circumstances around the raid and how the al-Qaeda leader came to live in the country for nine years without apparently being detected, was exclusively released by Al Jazeera’s Investigative Unit on Monday.

The report of the commission, formed in June 2011 to probe the circumstances around the killing of bin Laden by US forces in a unilateral raid on the Pakistani city of Abbottabad, had earlier been suppressed by the Pakistani government.

The raid illustrated Washington's "contemptuous disregard of Pakistan’s sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity in the arrogant certainty of […] unmatched military might", the report concluded in its "Findings" section.

In the same section, the report also details the "comprehensive failure of Pakistan to detect the presence of Bin Laden on its territory for almost a decade".

The report draws on testimony from more than 200 witnesses, including members of Bin Laden's family, Pakistan's then spy chief, senior ministers in the government and officials at every level of the military, bureaucracy and security services.

Scathing report

The commission's 336-page report is scathing, holding both the government and the military responsible for "gross incompetence" leading to "collective failures" that allowed both Bin Laden to escape detection, and the US to be able to violate Pakistani sovereignty by carrying out an attack on its soil without the knowledge of the military or the government.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; binladen; osama; osamabinladen; pakistan; usama; vinladen; wot
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1 posted on 07/09/2013 5:42:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: MestaMachine; NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle

fyi


2 posted on 07/09/2013 5:43:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’d have to agree. Anytime you are at war and you kill the other side’s general, it’s probably an “Act ‘O War”. Nothing gets by these Pokeystawn guys. They’re smart.


3 posted on 07/09/2013 5:47:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If America is a nation of immigrants, where's my free stuff?)
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Get a message on the suspposed video that the video stream is currently unavailable!


4 posted on 07/09/2013 5:47:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well, can anyone deny that staging a military invasion is an act of war? If any country did this to us, we'd certainly view it as such. Actually, how could anyone deny it's an act of war.

Pakistan doesn't want to go to war with the U.S., so nothing will come of it, but, yeah, it was an act of war.

5 posted on 07/09/2013 5:47:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Pakistan isn’t worth the sweat off the privates of a single member of our military.
Ditto for Afghanistan. I hate FUBO with a passion, but I wish to hell he would bring everyone we have in that area home tomorrow. I’m sorry for their women, but we are not the world’s policeman. Offer help and protection to Israel, but that’s it!


6 posted on 07/09/2013 5:48:26 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Pakistan's intelligence Services and probably almost half of its government is infiltrated by and co-opted by the Taliban and other Islamic extremists.

A report from anyone tied to any of that is clearly going to stoke the coals and try and turn Pakistan further against the US.

The fact is, providing safe haven to bin Laden, our abject enemy, while we are fighting the Taliban who openly gave him sanctuary (and are supposedly being helped in that fight by Pakisttan) was also an "at of war," by those ding so.

7 posted on 07/09/2013 5:49:07 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Interesting that the official report on the operation just went into a CIA black hole the other day.


8 posted on 07/09/2013 5:49:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hat tip to Pakistan for forming a commission and damning their own government for gross incompetence over a national security matter- something that has yet to occur with Obama and Hillary over Benghazi.


9 posted on 07/09/2013 5:52:36 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: nickcarraway

This was certainly an unusual case considering the raid was being live tweeted from on the ground in Pakistan. Something like 3 hours in country with helicopters and there was no confrontation from the nearby military base.


10 posted on 07/09/2013 5:52:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The commission's 336-page report is scathing, holding both the government and the military responsible for "gross incompetence" leading to "collective failures" that allowed both Bin Laden to escape detection, and the US to be able to violate Pakistani sovereignty by carrying out an attack on its soil without the knowledge of the military or the government.

That's actually a little unfair. A government kept from the awareness of a high-value target can hardly be blamed for failing to protect it. It is questionable how high the knowledge that OBL was present percolated within the Pakistani government, but it was nearly certainly in the hands of the ISI. What is equally certain is that the ISI is thoroughly compromised by agents sympathetic to al Qaeda, who can scarcely be considered honest brokers in the matter.

The brutal truth is that the raid would not have been necessary were the Pakistani government in control of its own territory and its own intelligence assets. It isn't.

11 posted on 07/09/2013 5:53:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I know who can get to resolve this diplomatic issue.

PERVEZ MUSHARRAF, the President of Pakistan, claimed last night that the Bush Administration threatened to bomb his country “into the Stone Age” if it did not co-operate with the US after 9/11, sharply increasing tensions between the US and one of its closest allies in the war on terrorism.

The President, who will meet Mr Bush in the White House today, said the threat was made by Richard Armitage, then the Deputy Secretary of State, in the days after the terror attacks, and was issued to the Pakistani intelligence director.

12 posted on 07/09/2013 5:53:08 PM PDT by McGruff (I need a new party.)
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To: Jeff Head

Didn’t the United States provide safe haven for bin Laden in Kosovo, and allow other countries to provide safe haven for him in the 90s? Didn’t we turn down the Sudan when the offered him to us?


13 posted on 07/09/2013 5:53:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Billthedrill
Richard Armitage should be in jail for multiple reasons.

would not have been necessary were the Pakistani government in control of its own territory and its own intelligence assets. It isn't.

And the Himalayas should be made out of candy. Pakistan and Afghanistan are geopolitically ungovernable. The U.K., Russia, and the United States couldn't control Pakistan. The U.S., India, or Pakistan can't control Pakistan. That's the way it is.

14 posted on 07/09/2013 5:57:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Okay Paki-derms, declare it and let’s get it on. Remember though , a 50 cal. bullet goes right through a towel hat.


15 posted on 07/09/2013 6:00:13 PM PDT by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

SO what do they call the Mumbai terror attacked which was staged by Pakis out of Pakistan with the assistance of the Pakistani intelligence serve?


16 posted on 07/09/2013 6:00:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good - go and attack Chi-Congo. They’ll never notice the difference.


17 posted on 07/09/2013 6:00:35 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m inclined to agree, at least with respect to the tribal regions. This wasn’t there, though, this was spitting distance to Islamabad. Both OBL and the SEALs were there because the Pakistanis couldn’t control even that, which is, I’m guessing from the story, the point of the report. That’s a little worrisome for a nuclear power.


18 posted on 07/09/2013 6:03:20 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Ernest. It might have been an act of war, if Pakistan weren’t a pseudostate.

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19 posted on 07/09/2013 6:04:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: nickcarraway

Richard Armitage

Another international crisis group trustee.

Anytime there is something going on in the world that ain’t quite right its always a good idea to check the names.

http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/about/board.aspx


20 posted on 07/09/2013 6:07:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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