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FL Defense Lawyer On CNN: After Today, ‘Impossible’ Not To See Zimmerman ‘As A Good Guy’
Mediaite ^ | July 8, 2013 | Noah Rothman

Posted on 07/08/2013 11:10:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Appearing on CNN with Jake Tapper, a Florida-based criminal defense attorney was asked on Monday for her thoughts on the course of the day’s testimony in the trial of George Zimmerman for the 2012 murder of Trayvon Martin. The attorney said that the start of the defense phase of the trial has been good for Zimmerman. She added that it is “impossible” not to see Zimmerman as a “good guy.”

“It seems as though there have been some big blows to the prosecution,” Tapper said of the course of the day’s testimony.

“This is a classic scorch and burn defense,” observed former O.J. Simpson prosecutor Christopher Darden.....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; georgezimmerman; kangaroocourt; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/08/2013 11:10:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The truth is a powerful thing.


2 posted on 07/08/2013 11:17:04 PM PDT by RC one
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

By “classic scorch and burn defense,” he meant the defense team is attacking every single point the prosecution has tried to make.

Well, there’s a good reason for that. Every single point the prosecution has tried to make, as far as I can see, is BS.


3 posted on 07/08/2013 11:20:36 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
George Zimmerman should be given a Presidential Citation Award and sit next to Michelle at the 2014 State of the Union Address - would be a great improvement.
4 posted on 07/08/2013 11:25:44 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Not Guilty by reason of sanity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

start the riots already


5 posted on 07/08/2013 11:38:47 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Jeff Winston

That is very lame of Chris Darden. The defense is doing their job, and quite well as far as one can tell.


6 posted on 07/08/2013 11:41:20 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Christopher Darden??

The token Black prosecutor who helped FU the OJ slam dunk?

Crap, if he is on Zimmerman's side, Zim is really in trouble.

7 posted on 07/08/2013 11:49:15 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (0bama lied, Stevens died, now 0bama covers up the lies.)
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To: max americana

Yup, all cleaned, oiled and primed.


8 posted on 07/09/2013 12:12:15 AM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He doesn’t have to be a good guy to be innocent of the charge, but it’s obvious that he really is a person who genuinely tries to do good things. And it’s not that he has anything against the bad guys so much as that he feels compassion for their innocent victims.


9 posted on 07/09/2013 12:12:58 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I honestly don't care if Zimmerman is a good guy or a bad guy. The question comes down to is rather simple: Was a lawfully armed man justified in shooting someone who was attacking him?

The prosecution has managed to prove that yes, Zimmerman was being attacked, that he suffered injuries. They try to characterize these injuries as being superficial; however, the test of the law is ‘He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself’

Let's see.. Someone’s pinning you to the ground and beating on you. Pretty sure that you'd have a hard time finding people who'd take the position that if this happened them, that they wouldn't have a reasonable fear of great bodily harm.

But hey! The prosecution is trying to claim that Zimmerman instigated it, and therefore this test is meaningless. Whoops, pesky law there, it says that even if they invite and instigate this, that this same exact test still is to be used to justify the use of deadly force. ‘Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant;’

Uh-oh. Is that guy pinning him to the ground? Didn't the prosecution present evidence of this?

So for the prosecution's theory to have the slightest bit of merit, Zimmerman must have instigated the confrontation, invited violence, AND once pinned to the ground had an easy ability to dislodge the attacker without risk of great bodily harm.

In any reasonable world, the prosecution would have rested, and the judge dismiss the charges with prejudice.

Unfortunately, it isn't a reasonable world, and the defense is presently engaging in providing evidence for the upcoming civil rights violation trial of Zimmerman. As if there is a conviction, the appeal would likely cite Florida stand your ground laws, present the evidence from the state as undisputed facts and the immunity will kick in (from civil lawsuits as well..)

10 posted on 07/09/2013 12:53:58 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The press is scrambling frantically to cover it's arse.

If there are riots I hope someone can find a way to hold the press responsible for damages.

11 posted on 07/09/2013 1:23:55 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
George Zimmerman should be given a Presidential Citation Award and sit next to Michelle at the 2014 State of the Union Address - would be a great improvement.

However, when it comes to dubious photo-ops, Moochelle has yet to top an earlier Democrat first lady's personal best.


12 posted on 07/09/2013 1:24:19 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

She had one with Jim Jones too.....


13 posted on 07/09/2013 2:10:45 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is Dead. We now live in a Judicial Tyranny.)
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To: cynwoody; Kozak

There are photos of Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist “church” with Al Gore


14 posted on 07/09/2013 2:26:40 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: kingu

Yes but second degree murder has to show HATRED and DEPRAVED mind. Therefore, it helps to show GZ isn’t some wild eyed cowboy wanna be cop trying to kill black teens.


15 posted on 07/09/2013 3:18:38 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: kingu
Zimmerman must have instigated the confrontation, invited violence, AND once pinned to the ground had an easy ability to dislodge the attacker without risk of great bodily harm.

The prosecution claims that a man who had already lost in a physical encounter (broken nose and injuries to the back of his head) against a drugged-out high school football player with MMA training should not have been concerned about his ability to escape without serious bodily harm. That has always struck me as an impossible position to justify.

16 posted on 07/09/2013 3:47:57 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Jeff Winston

“By “classic scorch and burn defense,” he meant the defense team is attacking every single point the prosecution has tried to make.”

As far as I’m cencerned, the only way to make that term fit would be to put the parents of Trayvon behind bars or make them pay Zimmerman for raising a thug.


17 posted on 07/09/2013 4:02:18 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I wouldn’t go that far. Headline News runs a crap show on the trial every night. They have a little mock-up of the scene, a bigger fake jury than they need, a half dozen murder attorneys shouting over each other, the whole works. The finale every day is a “jury” vote on whatever “the big question” of the day was, and a vote by the attorneys on whether it was a better day for the prosecution or the defense.

I usually flip right past it, but last night I decided to give it a shot. They showed a tally of the attorneys’ votes throughout the trial — they have found more often than not that the prosecution “won” the day, which as we all know isn’t remotely possible. And last night’s “jury” voted 10-2 that it was *not* George screaming.

So put Headline News down as still wanting to find George guilty. I think it’s ideology-driven bias for a number of reasons — the usual lies are STILL repeated virtually daily on HLN as they show every picture of 12-year-old TM, for example. But it might be as simple as knowing that any operation that employs Nancy Grace as a guiding light on court cases cannot possibly be interested in giving a suspect fair treatment.


18 posted on 07/09/2013 4:06:45 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: kingu
Yes. It is clear that the original decision to not charge and prosecute was correct.

In any reasonable world, the prosecution would have rested, and the judge dismiss the charges with prejudice.

There is a case of some relevance to this. A first degree murder conviction was overturned. The appeals court ruled that the Judge erred in not acting as the 'thirteenth juror."

I know something about jury nullification. This responsibility of the presiding judge in a criminal case is all new to me

STATE OF TENNESS EE v . DALE KEI TH LARK IN

19 posted on 07/09/2013 4:36:13 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“George Zimmerman should be given a Presidential Citation Award”..... “and sit next to Michelle at the 2014 State of the Union Address - would be a great improvement.”.......

First, I agree with your first statement (Geo getting a Pres. Citation). Thus far, he has helped the CCW carry issue in a BIG way.

Second, Sitting next to Mooooooooooochelle would, in many ways, be worse than going through all the BS. He certainly doesn’t look anything like odumbo’s son.


20 posted on 07/09/2013 4:54:49 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
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